I think I'll get this board and test it stock first, no mods. Then I'll do a VDD mod and test it. Last but not least I'll do a mem mod if necessary , and I'm sure it will be necassary :D
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I think I'll get this board and test it stock first, no mods. Then I'll do a VDD mod and test it. Last but not least I'll do a mem mod if necessary , and I'm sure it will be necassary :D
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I can't see your point here. It seems to me including high voltage is not such an issue for a mobo maker, as chaintec has demonstrated. What makes me think is above all the fact that for every chipset out, there are more and more mobo revision from our favourite mobo builders (epox and abit), every time with somithing missing and probably justifying the buying of the next board. Can you remember epox 8k3a --> 8k5a and now 8rda+ and soon 8rda3+? And what about abit KX7 (which was almost perfect for the time) and KD7-E and now with nforce2... It seems to me the matter is not the difficulty to add alle the jingles and bells to the mobo, the point it's they don't want us to be completely happy with their product but quite happy to go on.... just wait for next release...Quote:
Originally posted by mdzcpa
Originally posted by spaceboy
many looked at KD7 for the higher voltage..
but the first rev had a lot of bug...at that time both OPP and MrIcee confirmed this , infact Abit had to reingeneree the mobo!
Umm...not sure what you are referring to. The KD7 has not undergone any major re engineering at all. The KD7-RAID mobo I used for my KD7 Motherboard Review at Liquid Ninjas which I completed last October was not plagued by any "bugs" at all and was an original version.
If you are referring to hard drive corruption issues at high fsb speeds, that indeed was an issue...one that I mentioned in my review. But to call HD corruption resulting from running the FSB far beyond it's specs a "bug" is very inaccurate.
I tryed 8k9a2 and KD7 and Epox is far better : the same CPU oc better un Epox and i had it to 240 fsb!
I suppose eeveryone judges which mobo is better than others in their own way. For me.. ..I go through a lot of equipment...literally dozens of boards evey few months. I do this for hardware review, for my own hobby, and for client builds. Therefore I identify some boards to better than others based on trends that I experience, or read about, based on many boards used. I do not base my opinion soley on a single experience with one board. Although the Epox is a good mobo too (based on sheer overclocking ability), there are a good number of other reasons not to like Epox too...such as quality and reliability issues which are often cited in the forums. In the end, I recommend boards which consistently perform well....not boards which can make great bansi runs but end up being a hit n miss proposition.
i think high vdimm is very useful with a mobo that we manage to run at ver very high fsb
Agreed....to a point. But as memory technology has moved along much faster than chipset support, this has become less of an issue. There is now already good memory out there than can run 217mhz at only 2.65v. Sticking 3.2v to the memory in order to achieve insane speeds (250mhz ?) that the memory controller cannot handle anyway is kinda pointless.
Another point : the bios for 1.2 is the same for 1.1 or 1.0 so i don's see how could it be faster
Who said it would be faster? Perhaps it isn't. However, it is quite possible that it might indeed be faster, or more stable, or more overclockable just due to the simple fact that Abit has spent more time working on the board design.
KX7 was a great mobo
I agree 100%. But based on numerous experiences with the KD7 boards, the KD7 series proved to be even better for me and my clients.
This i find a bit confusing. How could a core voltage of 2.1v be better than the 2.3v offered on the NF7 v1.2?
As far as the Vdimm...yes...I would like higher choices. But i'm not going to condemn the board just yet for that fact. Again, there is already plenty of RAM which will run in the 200s just fine at 1.65v. So we'll have to see what happens here.
Do you have any idea whatsoever engineering wise what it takes to do this? Do you really beleive that all they have to do to implement higher voltages is to just slap an extra part on and add a BIOS setting? C'mon...get real. If it was that easy they would do it. Let's have some common sense here.
To me it is rather obvious what is happening. The VIA chipset has remained essentially unchanged since the KT266. Sure there have been some southbridge features added, and some tweaks to the northbridge memory controller, but that's about it. By the time the KD7 came around, the chipset was very mature and implementation was well known.
Now comes NF2...a brand new chipset altogether. Applying what we know about voltages (and everything else) blindly to a new chipset is silly. We have no idea what engineering difficulties mobo makers are faced with, nor are we aware of what kind of restrictions Nvidia puts on them when they use the NF2.
Again, if Abit took the time to engineer the board a second time for improved overclockability, I doubt they left a bunch of performance just sitting untapped. They did what they did for a reason. Think about it.
Wow...what a post. I'm exhuasted:) Sorry for the rant. And I certainly mean no disrespect to anyone here. Just stating some opinion.
Heh, that's one review I'll definitely be waiting for! A comparision with your original NF7 would be great. :DQuote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I think I'll get this board and test it stock first, no mods. Then I'll do a VDD mod and test it. Last but not least I'll do a mem mod if necessary , and I'm sure it will be necassary :D
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Guys - where can I get ahold of one of the 1.2 revision NF7-S boards now? I want to order ASAP, but some of the resellers I've called can't guarantee what revision number they have or will send, therefore I won't buy from them in that regard. Googlegear had no idea what the hell I was talking about.
I've waited since before Comdex 2002 for this damned board...and I want it now. Just ask Harry from Abit how much I've bugged him, he should have just sent me one to shut me up by now. Anyway, if you guys know a reputable vendor or smaller reseller with a good reseller rating I can trust to get one like 2nd day air, would most appreciate it. I'm tired of waiting, my new 510W PSU from PC Power etc. is coming via UPS tomorrow.
I think I'm also going to try to pick up an Abit BH7 in a couple weeks fundage pending.
It's been hard waiting and nursing my KR7A-133R and other boxes along wanting to upgrade. So...now's the time.
Edit - called a few resellers, newegg, mwave & they won't guarantee a revision number on the board. It sucks living where there isn't computer shows or large computer retailers to find something like this. Probably could get the damned board faster in Europe than here in the central U.S.!
All suggestions appreciated...figured Tek Werkz just does mods and not mobos, but Eric is that right?
Now there is something that rings true. If they made it perfect, nobody would upgrade to the next one that comes out!Quote:
Originally posted by Iolao
It seems to me the matter is not the difficulty to add alle the jingles and bells to the mobo, the point it's they don't want us to be completely happy with their product but quite happy to go on.... just wait for next release...
BTW, it's just a motherboard we're debating, not world politics. Nice to have some passion about what you're doing folks, but it's not life or death. ;)
Just found out my friend has got the NF7 in orange in stock...but from last week!!
I'm not sure which revision it is so I am asking you this...if its orange...is it a Rev 1.2? I think not...
well I can still return the mobo if not satisfied...I take it home...test it and return it if needed...I dont even have to buy the thing...
this is the only great thing here in Slovenia... I know who imports these damn boards:toast:
now the only problem here is it costs 200$ ;)
you're so right I cannot say but I love this stuff like life or death! :DQuote:
Originally posted by BrainStorm
Now there is something that rings true. If they made it perfect, nobody would upgrade to the next one that comes out!
BTW, it's just a motherboard we're debating, not world politics. Nice to have some passion about what you're doing folks, but it's not life or death. ;)
as usual my friend Iolao said what i was thinking ;) (he understand me better than myself :D )
i think abit is the greatest.. so i wanna a perfect mobo from ABIT ;)
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I'm your word man! :DQuote:
Originally posted by spaceboy
as usual my friend Iolao said what i was thinking ;) (he understand me better than myself :D )
i think abit is the greatest.. so i wanna a perfect mobo from ABIT ;)
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Can you guys PLEASE STOP fighting of pointless Things. Stay on topic. if you wanna talk about a Different Board, dont spam my thread with it. getting 30emailes, and come to read its nothing about the nf2 is sad..
Haha now that is funny...all threads drift m8 but its been pretty much on topic. Take a breather.Quote:
Originally posted by Dissolved
Can you guys PLEASE STOP fighting of pointless Things. Stay on topic. if you wanna talk about a Different Board, dont spam my thread with it. getting 30emailes, and come to read its nothing about the nf2 is sad..
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anyone get the board yet, or maybe a pic? not that it looks that much different from the 1.1
mine is coming in tomorrow...but i wont be putting it in till i vmod everything, for now i have the rev.1 board
I'm composing a email right now to find out if those orange boards are realy Ver 1.2..If so I might have one today or tomorrow.
Hope someone gets it soon...
Well what do you want to hear? That the rev 1.2 has 2.3vcore,2.9vdimm,1.7vdd and 1.8vagp and a shiny orange PCB? I think it is on topic to discuss the changes that Abit have done to the board,if they are sufficient and so on. And its the only thing we can do until people start getting some boards,which i expect they will today :)Quote:
Originally posted by Dissolved
Can you guys PLEASE STOP fighting of pointless Things. Stay on topic. if you wanna talk about a Different Board, dont spam my thread with it. getting 30emailes, and come to read its nothing about the nf2 is sad..
And btw, every post that is longer than three lines in this thread has the word nforce2 or NF7 in it
(i have not counted, feel free to do so :D )
anyway, has anyone used a swiftech/alpha heatsink on it yet? I would like to know if it has any mounting problems - i.e. SMD components being too close to hole..
Does anyone know where i can order the Abit NF7-S rev 1.2?? Is this going to be the best Nforce2 board for overclocking?
can someone post some pics of its box and board?:D
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Originally posted by Ragnarok
anyway, has anyone used a swiftech/alpha heatsink on it yet? I would like to know if it has any mounting problems - i.e. SMD components being too close to hole..
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Originally posted by winguy
can someone post some pics of its box and board?:D
I'll know today when the board arrives.....as will others it seems. Checking out the mounting capability will be the first thing i look into. I'll post pics if no one else has by then:).
mega cheers!
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Originally posted by Prime187
Does anyone know where i can order the Abit NF7-S rev 1.2?? Is this going to be the best Nforce2 board for overclocking?
dude, read the first post. Wait till there back in stock. feb 25th i believe is the day.
Sorry guys, as of 2 days ago, ExcaliburPC had them in stock. I just checked and they are now out. Here is the link anyway: NF7-S guaranteed 1.2 revision I ordered mine Tuesday, but slow-ass UPS can't get it here until Monday :-(
Okay guys....you can see some initial pics of the v1.2 which arrived today HERE . I'll have the Swiftech waterblock mounted and the board running shortly.
Nice! :D
I'll be very interested to see how you think it compares to your KD7-E in terms of overclockability.
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