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Originally Posted by Shadowmage
$379 :eek: you can get a 7900gt for $289 at newegg now. hopefully prices drop when more stores start stocking it.
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Originally Posted by Shadowmage
$379 :eek: you can get a 7900gt for $289 at newegg now. hopefully prices drop when more stores start stocking it.
Prices are high right now because only a few shops are willing to sell it before the release date. Others seem to be slow on egtting them up so supply is low right now. It'll probably go down in a few days.
Best Buy has them in stock in my area for $299.
Also X1800XTs are in at $299 aand I'm pretty sure they can do 9k with minimal effort if the rest of you system isn't letting you down (like my PSU and RAM)
The Inq does a benchmarking run with both cards. Though I still havent swallowed by whole pack of salt yet (its a tad bitter this time), the the 7900GT comes out the winner.
Looks like the slower mem bandwith affects performance by quite a bit, but not as much as the inq likes to shout about. It claims that the 7900 GT is up to 25 fps faster...yes it is, if you like playing at 2048x1536 with no AA or AF...typical stupidity at the hands of Fuad the salad tosser.
Link: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=31550
As a side note, I would like to see performance comparo of the X1800GTO vs X1800XT 256MB vs X1900GT. I have a feeling the 256MB X1800XT (with the best cooler of the bunch) will be better bang for the buck.
Perkam
I`d say they perform on par. Doom3/Q4 are NV optimised - so those results imo doesn`t show real stuff.
X1900GT may unlock to 48 pipes ;)
Any info on that ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmage
Probably, but not with that cheap heatsink, that is if you don't want to kill it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmage
Perkam
That card is weak
Maybe ATI's preparing the ground for GTO/XL, then slashing all prices?
Tul!?
Anyone have any info on this company, I believe its a devision of Powercolor, correct?
Anyways, specs
Core clock speed
575MHz
Memory speed
1.2GHz
Memory
256MB DDR3
Memory interface
256-bit
Pixel shader processor
36
Vertex shader
8
VGA output
By DVI to VGA converter
TV output
S-Video
DVI-I
DVI X 2
VIVO (Video In/Video Out)
Yes
H.264 Support
Yes
Geometry transform rate (vertices/sec)
1.15 billion
Memory bandwidth
38.4GB/sec
Pixel fill rate
6.9 billion/sec
http://www.digitimes.com/Backgrounde...&seq=201&Cat=1
TuL is known as Powercolor in North America.
I hope we see it in stores soon :)
Perkam
Card should be solid, my XTX is from powercolor and has ran great from day 1, doesn't oc half bad either.
It would have been nice if he included what video card driver settings were used. If that 7900GT was kept at Quality filtering then they don't really mean a whole lot.
Neither D3 nor Q4 are TWIMTBP or in any way openly sponsored by nvidia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooper
What he means is that nVidia excels in OpenGLQuote:
Originally Posted by Flak Monkey
it shouldn't really be surprising that when you lose 25% of the pipelines that performance would suffer
the X1000 series may not have alot of pipelines, but it sure needs what it can get. that's what it seems at least.
how is this different from an X1600? other than the 36 shaders, and the 256bit memory bandwidth
edit:
where are the bf2 benchmarks? this one is usually dominated by ati
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The ATI Radeon X1900 GT loses in Battlefield 2 as well. Nvidia is from three to thirteen frames faster but, yet again, ATI looks much better with the FSAA and Aniso on. It is slower by a frame at 10x7 but wins seven by twelve frames in all the other resolutions.
Like usual, ATI has problems to compete in mid/low budget section, while in highend section that's another story. But until I see more benchmarks I won't make any rush decisions of this X1900GT vs 7900GT battle. Unlocking pipes would definitely give a nice performance boost for X1900GT if it's possible. But every1 knows how much these 7900GTs overclock after a simple voltmod even on decent aircooling...
Once again you see at high res & quality, the ATI card starves with only 256MB memory. The games used were slightly in Nvidia favor (Q4,D3,SS2), but BF2 and FEAR for example it was still behind and in HL2 X1900GT only won in low quality test. Still I think only Doom 3 or Quake 4 should be used and not both in a test like this.
What's the price range for X1900GT? I say this because if you can unlock the shaders, you can get a vf900 and you're (almost) done. You still lack the 256mb...Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Another review at Technic3D.com - it`s in german
I have a hunch that you can flash to X1900AIW... the AIW part would just be undetected and there may be errors at boot, but it should work.
The main problem with X1900 GT is that even in idle it reaches 63C deg. :(
Could it be just a coolers fault?
The last comment in the review really makes the Inq look dumber then usual. ATI needs more pipelines? Clearly they don't seem to remember that the x1900gt has half the pipelines of the 7900gt and really is about the same perfromance at standard resolutions. What Id like to see is a standard review which also shows temperatures during each test, and acheivable clocks on stock heatsink.
Lets not forget x1900 has soft-vadjustments!
Ok, it might not be TWIMTBP, but there is this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Flak Monkey
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/do...s_6090372.html
X1600 - 4 texture units, 12 shader units, 4 or 6 (don't remember) vertex units.Quote:
Originally Posted by b0bd0le
X1900GT - 12 texture units, 36 shader units, 8 vertex units.
edit: oh yeah, and the memory width thing, 128 bit vs 256 bit.
I've said it before, but the GT version of ATI's cards and the GT version of Nvidias cards were never meant to compete in the past. I thought the XL or now the XT version of the X1900 was to compete with the 7900 GT. So why are we comparing both GT's now?