clockspeeds can go higher that s939 :)
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clockspeeds can go higher that s939 :)
I would assume that there will be more initial benefits to AM2 then just higher bandwidth why else would they be PUSHING the release date sooner then later? You would think that for now they would do everything that they could even if it was only a few percent on the procs to compete with conroe...those r my thought...i am not expecting a miracle chip here nor one NEAR as fast as conroe but they arnt going to take it lying down...my guess is that by the time am2 is out and conroe is out there wont be more then a 10% diff in them unless you are spi freak (lol we know there is ENOUGH of them around here)
But if you ask me on the release it will be on average 10% faster then 939...they wouldn’t make a pointless move to integrate ddr2 right now with intels market share and conroe on the horizon it would be stupid to waste their resources to do that...it WILL be faster then 939 just not what we hopped even more so after seeing the the thrashing that conroe is going to give EVERY other cpu out there...We just had our hopes set high because we all saw what conroe can do...
Dragon
All we have seen is Conroe is good at SuperPI, Conroe is just a tweaked Yohan.. So don't expect it to be great at gaming...
Yea, Conroe gaming performance is truly woeful.
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That article is comparing the current gen. Athlon 64's afaik... so that is a completely un-fair generalization about Conroe vs AM2. Athlon 64 v3 (AM2 haha) could completely and utterly rape Conroe in gaming benches. We haven't seen enough non-biased benches/comparisons yet to correctly judge the new crownholder in the gaming arena.
Don't go on about SuperPi either. Intel has always gotten their :banana::banana::banana::banana:s and giggles by counting numbers.
Nick
I doubt A64 will rape Conroe in game, but I'd expect it to do OK.
My guess is AMD will end up having to compete on price rather than performance for a while, or for a long time if K8L aint all that its cracked up to be...
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Originally Posted by Poodle
Have you really studied up on the Conroe specifics (better generalized the Core uArch.) in terms of multi-core implementation. AMD's multicore approach requires internal cross-CPU connections for inter-cpu communictions (i.e. Cross bar -- nice, true), but the new architecture from intel shares and allocates at the cache level, in the end much more effective and frankly much more elegant. Now, data shared by two threads running can be accessed by either core within the same cache block. AMD still would have to swap data around between cache's, so in the end AMD will still have a certain degree of cache coherency to deal with.
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Originally Posted by nn_step
the more i hear from you the less i think you know....
I hope we get a total war btw AMD and Intel now so we can skip all minor 200mhz updates and get something totaly new.
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Originally Posted by Ubermann
am2 rev G is gonna be more than 200mhz but from what i know it will be out on 2007 that is goin to put amd on top again (after conroe is released).
I have no idea what he's talking about either.Quote:
Originally Posted by metro.cl
metro.cl,
I gather you'r talking about K8 @ 65nm (= Brisbane)?
there are 2 revisions of am2 the one that is coming out in the 23rd is rev f and is mostly a s939 with ddr2 mem controller.Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
on q1 2007 rev g is coming out that is a 65nm am2 with more cache
Just a question.
Socket AM2 procs will bring the virtualization techs (Pacifica?), rigth?
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Piotrsama
Let get this straight, so you're speculating a bump in bandwidth from DDR2 and mem controller tweaks could possibly help an equally clocked AM2 rape Conroe in game performance?Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS