Team Xtreem 2x512MB DDR500 UTT-BH5 OCing Report - 2 sets tested -> SPi32M @ 279MHz!!!

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03-02-2006, 03:17 PM
dogsx2

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

Update #5 ;) Not very thrilled about the gains, though...
But I'm happy that at least I managed to up the clock a bit more :)

Michal

Before your done playing with that set of memory, I just know you will have reached the magic 280 number. Keep trying and I know you will make it. :up:
03-02-2006, 03:19 PM
Lastviking

nice that you get some more mhz out from it...damn i´m stil using nf2..waiting for my rma, got some new sticks to cant test them so much i want. No Xtreem sticks yet but some thing smaller ;)
03-02-2006, 03:37 PM
dinos22

Michael..........have you tried Slower DQS with value past 128 to see if you can grab that last MHz to 280

i would also try Read Write Queue Bypass 8x and Bypass Max 4x.....it's awesome that you have TWTR=1 ...maybe 2 there and 3 for TRTW will loosen it enough for that one damn MHz :p: i ain't giving advice to master....just interested if those make a change for you as they did for me in my limited experience :)
03-02-2006, 03:45 PM
ozzimark

try DIC = disabled too :D
03-02-2006, 05:01 PM
MorueM

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

Removing heatspreaders does not always guarantee automatically better clocks. I have done it to all BH-5 I've ever had and nothing exciting came out of it... As you said, you're starting your adventure with high voltage RAM so I forgive you rolling eyes at me :slap: :) Besides, you can't compare RAM that OPB has with the set I'm testing here... :) I can guarantee you that 280MHz is ABSOLUTELY out of reach.

Eh, just wanna tell the eyes were more directed to OPB, as I took his words against yours.. Maybe should have been a wink, I'm not english speaking native.. sorry. Just wanted you to push the competition :)

Are the heatspreaders still on? And is the 280mhz now in reach?
I love your works guys, keep on pushing.
:stick: @ /me
03-02-2006, 07:03 PM
coop

Excellent work and documentation bachus. Your efforts are helpful to many of us and good for everyone. Learning from experience is ok (takes a long time) but learning from others provides a huge advantage towards progress.
03-03-2006, 12:18 AM
gigi77

WOW WOW WOW my friend!!!

AMAZING scores
03-03-2006, 09:41 AM
bachus_anonym

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Originally Posted by dinos22

whoa you enabled 32-byte granularity for 279 run

Shortening burts length to 2 transfers indeed helped some and I was a bit surprised by that. But that's still not it :p:

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Originally Posted by dogsx2

Michal, Before your done playing with that set of memory, I just know you will have reached the magic 280 number. Keep trying and I know you will make it. :up:

Well, I think I'm really done this time :) To many attempts and all failed...

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Originally Posted by Lastviking

nice that you get some more mhz out from it...damn i´m stil using nf2..waiting for my rma, got some new sticks to cant test them so much i want. No Xtreem sticks yet but some thing smaller ;)

Thanks LV and good luck with your new sticks :up:

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Originally Posted by dinos22

Michael..........have you tried Slower DQS with value past 128 to see if you can grab that last MHz to 280. i would also try Read Write Queue Bypass 8x and Bypass Max 4x.....it's awesome that you have TWTR=1 ...maybe 2 there and 3 for TRTW will loosen it enough for that one damn MHz :p: i ain't giving advice to master....just interested if those make a change for you as they did for me in my limited experience :)

... have been there...

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

try DIC = disabled too :D

... and have done that... At this point it doesn't seem to help to reach higher :( Thanks for suggestions, though :toast:

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Originally Posted by MorueM

Are the heatspreaders still on?

Yes :p: :)

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Originally Posted by coop

Excellent work and documentation bachus. Your efforts are helpful to many of us and good for everyone. Learning from experience is ok (takes a long time) but learning from others provides a huge advantage towards progress.

Thanks coop! I was hoping that posting all those screenshots will help some of those still playing with (UTT)BH-5. I have not run SPi32M so many times in a single Report before :lol:

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Originally Posted by gigi77

WOW WOW WOW my friend!!! AMAZING scores

Thanks Luigi :) I'm glad I could give you some entertainment here :D
03-03-2006, 10:10 AM
Lastviking

bachus_anonym: The trick to go over 280 for you is to bench when the temp is lower :) , open window and maybe on the night ;) , damn this is bad i got very low temp outside again but i stil dont have any board to test the sticks on :/
03-04-2006, 10:56 AM
bachus_anonym

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Originally Posted by Lastviking

bachus_anonym: The trick to go over 280 for you is to bench when the temp is lower :) , open window and maybe on the night ;) , damn this is bad i got very low temp outside again but i stil dont have any board to test the sticks on :/

Thanks LV but I pretty much decided to stop there. I have not touched those sticks since yesterday morning and already put my daily 2GB in... Once again, thanks to dogsx2 for letting me play with those Xtreemes :toast:

Thanks for dropping by guys and look forward to my next OCing Report :peace:
03-24-2006, 03:39 PM
dinos22

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

Above 272Mhz I had to resort to "certain performance trick" that I kind of wanted to avoid.

hey michael i'm still interested to know how you managed to gain so many MHz with a "trick" ....... Do tell pls :)
03-25-2006, 02:36 AM
Zeus

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Originally Posted by dinos22

hey michael i'm still interested to know how you managed to gain so many MHz with a "trick" ....... Do tell pls :)

Yeah, me 2.

Nice review man! :up:
03-25-2006, 09:44 AM
bachus_anonym

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Originally Posted by dinos22

hey michael i'm still interested to know how you managed to gain so many MHz with a "trick" ....... Do tell pls :)

You found it already, sort of. So here we go:

1. To get from 272Mhz to 275MHz I enabled 32-byte Granularity in BIOS. I don't quite understand why it worked but it helped without any performance hit. But... With 4 sets total of UTT-BH5 I had here at that time only this one benefit from that "switch". The rest would not give better results at all :shrug:

2. Now, the "performance hit" suffered to get from 276MHz to 279Mhz (about 10s) in SPi32M was a result of Bank Interleaving being Diabled. That did it and allowed me to pass 32M @ 279Mhz - without it, kit stops at 275MHz.

That's all folks :D
03-25-2006, 10:18 AM
oktavius

awesome clocks ;)
exspecially for 4 module at once
03-25-2006, 12:00 PM
Coroner Kyle

Nevermind I didn't see the update.
03-25-2006, 01:56 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

You found it already, sort of. So here we go:

1. To get from 272Mhz to 275MHz I enabled 32-byte Granularity in BIOS. I don't quite understand why it worked but it helped without any performance hit. But... With 4 sets total of UTT-BH5 I had here at that time only this one benefit from that "switch". The rest would not give better results at all :shrug:

2. Now, the "performance hit" suffered to get from 276MHz to 279Mhz (about 10s) in SPi32M was a result of Bank Interleaving being Diabled. That did it and allowed me to pass 32M @ 279Mhz - without it, kit stops at 275MHz.

That's all folks :D

:D ........didn't mention those as it just didn't do anything for me.........i guess it's important to try with every set as you never know :toast:
03-25-2006, 11:10 PM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

You found it already, sort of. So here we go:

1. To get from 272Mhz to 275MHz I enabled 32-byte Granularity in BIOS. I don't quite understand why it worked but it helped without any performance hit. But... With 4 sets total of UTT-BH5 I had here at that time only this one benefit from that "switch". The rest would not give better results at all :shrug:

2. Now, the "performance hit" suffered to get from 276MHz to 279Mhz (about 10s) in SPi32M was a result of Bank Interleaving being Diabled. That did it and allowed me to pass 32M @ 279Mhz - without it, kit stops at 275MHz.

That's all folks :D

could be a UTT BH-5 thing as 32bit gran enabled for original BH-5 takes a hefty performance dive for me (well in memtest bandwidth) and pi times
03-26-2006, 11:17 PM
Coroner Kyle

bachus_anonym: What board did you test with? I've been testing mine on an expert and I cannot get them stable at 250.
03-27-2006, 03:17 AM
Lastviking

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Originally Posted by Coroner Kyle

bachus_anonym: What board did you test with? I've been testing mine on an expert and I cannot get them stable at 250.

PC4000 sticks?
03-27-2006, 07:41 AM
bachus_anonym

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Originally Posted by dinos22

:D ........didn't mention those as it just didn't do anything for me.........i guess it's important to try with every set as you never know :toast:

Exactly, that's why I'm a bit surprised that it actually helped.

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Originally Posted by eva2000

could be a UTT BH-5 thing as 32bit gran enabled for original BH-5 takes a hefty performance dive for me (well in memtest bandwidth) and pi times

I have not checked memtest bandwidth or even Sandra, but SPi times were same with 32-byte granularity enabled. By disabling Bank Interleave I lost around 10-12s, though...

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Originally Posted by Coroner Kyle

bachus_anonym: What board did you test with? I've been testing mine on an expert and I cannot get them stable at 250.

DFI NF4 Ultra-D Rev.A02, BIOS 6/23 Official
03-27-2006, 11:07 AM
Coroner Kyle

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Originally Posted by Lastviking

PC4000 sticks?

Yes.

First I set up my settings like b_a's weak set of sticks - not stable. So I even set everything to auto except the primary timings (2-2-2-5) so that the board could loosen everything up to its liking, underclocked and slightly overvolted the processor, and played with the vdimm from 3.31 to 3.5x and they will not pass SPi 32M, Windows Memtest, or DOS at 250. I can get them to run at 240, but I paid for at least 250. You think I need an RMA?
03-30-2006, 10:13 AM
Sauron_Vie

I have also the pc4000 and the Expert Mobo and can also get them only up to 255 with 3,5V vdimm. I think i got baaad clockers. :mad:

cu
04-27-2006, 10:18 PM
ValkyrieLenneth

I'm having 4x UTT Corsair on Expert, i cant get it to 250 stable......any idea on timing :confused: about drive strength and data strength
04-28-2006, 06:33 AM
Xtreem Tech

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Originally Posted by Coroner Kyle

Yes.

First I set up my settings like b_a's weak set of sticks - not stable. So I even set everything to auto except the primary timings (2-2-2-5) so that the board could loosen everything up to its liking, underclocked and slightly overvolted the processor, and played with the vdimm from 3.31 to 3.5x and they will not pass SPi 32M, Windows Memtest, or DOS at 250. I can get them to run at 240, but I paid for at least 250. You think I need an RMA?

Dear Coroner Kyle,
Hello! Nice to meet you, would like kindly tell me which brand of module did you buy?
04-28-2006, 07:37 AM
Lastviking

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Originally Posted by Xtreem Tech

Dear Coroner Kyle,
Hello! Nice to meet you, would like kindly tell me which brand of module did you buy?

Its Teamgroup Xtreem PC4000 bh5-utt. I have already asked :), i think the problem is DDS and DDDS settings on the Expert board. Try 8,1 or 1,1 Coroner Kyle.

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