I think he meant since the core is new, and will already have a performance gain over 7800/x1800. If it is clocked higher, it will always be better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hicks
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I think he meant since the core is new, and will already have a performance gain over 7800/x1800. If it is clocked higher, it will always be better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hicks
Yep. +, competition keeps the prices down. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
I love it, competition fuels advancementQuote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29469
1 GB of ram possible on G71
Wonder if nvidia pops out a 1GB 7900GTX just for kicks and giggles?
should be pritty interesting.... :)
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Originally Posted by crackmann
wtf, does a 7800GTX / 1900XTX consume 512mb @ all? That would mean SLI would have 2GB!! I'd need like 4GB of RAM on my pc to keep up!:slobber:
Looks like CPU mfg's are falling far behind.
that is a special quaddro with a price tag of 8k $
I'm quite sure I read that G70 (maybe even NV40) could handle 2GB of RAM a while back. The issues they write about in the article are power related (a graphics card may only draw so much power according to today's standards), not memory controller.Quote:
Originally Posted by crackmann
A single 7800GTX should be able to host 2GB, wasn't it for the power concerns...Quote:
Originally Posted by OmegaMerc
And if you have the money to blow on such an abomination.. you either love AutoCad too much or you need to learn some basic economics:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by leviathan18
yeah 90nm should have a great effect on powerconsumption...
was looking around yesterday at X1900XT CF vs. SLI 7800GTX 512MBs and saw that the 1900XTs consumed more power than the 7800GTXs (only with 2 vid cards in tho) so i am anxious to see how the power consumtion drops with G71.
It should be quite nice compaired to at 6800 Ultra :)...
is there an estimated release date yet?
http://vr-zone.com/?i=3231
Some more little tidbits.
How does that make sense? 2*700=1200 now? World is getting stranger by the day! :p:Quote:
The GeForce 7900 GT card comes with 256MB of K4J55323QG-BC14 GDDR3 memories from Samsung which has an effective data rate of 700MHz so a good guess will be 1.2GHz memory clock for the 7900 GT.
I think they mean since it is 700mhz mem, the stock clock will be 600, ala 1200. This doesn't stray from any other product that uses higher-rated memory than it's stock clock. This of course leaves room for EVGA, XFX and BFG stock overclocked cards.
Of course, you already knew that. They just left out some much-needed wording.
I guess we can be expecting ~1500+ overclocked mem speeds, if the x1800xl's are any indication. I wonder when we'll get the key specs, that of course being the pipes/tmu/rop setup. 24/16/16? Prolly. Couple that with 90nm speeds (600mhz+) we can probably start drawing some conclusions...That being it prolly will be a 7800gtx512-performance replacement part, like has been said.
I don't think there will be a 256mb version... As the 512mb 7800GTX is going to be the new 7900GT I don't suppose that the 7900GTX will have less onboard memory than the GT. Perhaps they'll have a lower end 7900 with 256?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooper
Like has been done before, I'm sure we'll see both.
I also think that the 512mb version will come with a larger $$ premium than it's worth, just like XL/XL (X800), XL/XT (X18/X19), and 7800gt (amongst others) versions have shown in the past.
I figure intial pricing at ~$400 and ~$500, quickly going down ~$100 to be between 18XL's and 19XT's in the price range. Figure the same math for the 7900gtx, $600 going down to around $500 relatively quickly, if not slightly lower. A little bit more expensive than x19xt's, but prolly a little bit more powerful.
number of pipes = number of TMUs for NVIDIA. Texture operations are still attached to their shader engine with the GF7 architecture.Quote:
Originally Posted by turtle
I want one now!
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20060216A7037.html (no 1 GB for those who were fantasizing :slap: )
This doesn't say anything about availability, but let us hope it won't be launched like the 7300 was :stick: (p word). And its likely that the 7600(GT) will show up the same time the r590 is expected.
The only funny part is:
This tells me one thing very clearly: it won't be able to de-throne ATI that easily. We saw how insanely nvidia priced the 7800GTX 512MB even when it beat ATI by a small margin in the days of the x1800XT. Now this...Quote:
Nvidia’s upcoming GeForce 7900 GPUs will have more competitive pricing than the Radeon X1900 from ATI Technologies, the sources noted.
Then the other interesting thing that will be a thorn in nvidia's side will be the RD580 (which I really do hope lives up to its hype) which is expected on March 3rd.
March is turning out to be a very interesting month for us hardware enthusiasts.
honestly the only things that are helped by having more than 256mb of Ram are Folding,WZ21 reaper, autocad and EXTREMELY memory intensive graphics applications
Quake 4 is helped, so is COD2, and doom 3, and f.e.a.r. at high rez all on high with AA/AF.
Also, Ahmad, the 7800GTX 512mb was such highly priced because it was limited edition. The 7900's won't be limited edition, therefore won't need a $649 price tag even if it DOES blow the x1900xtx out of the water.
What this tells us, the 7900GTX will be cheaper than the X1900XTX/XT upon release.
And the universal cycle of who has the best card continues.. Ultimately reaching a state of perfection at prices that we call can afford..
I disagree. Nobody knew or expected the 7800GTX 512MB to be a limited edition for one thing (nvidia never said quanitities would be limited, just said it was going to be hardlaunched which it was).Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
Now look at it from another point of view: if the card was that much better than the x1900XTX, then Nvidia could essentially price it as high as they want and people would still buy it because it is the best. People who put down cash for these things won't mind spending extra to get the best (I know I wouldn't and never do). Nvidia is obviously is not dumb and if they see a chance to make money, why let it go to waste?
This is pretty sound reasoning IMHO. But I guess we will all find out for sure on the 9th ;)
False, depending on the game, sometimes the x1900xt is closer to 60% faster than a gtx 512. So it all depends on game. ATI kind of went in a differant direction. In ut07 I believe the x1900 will be faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
So you believe that ATi will have the edge in DirectX and nVidia will continue having a major advantage in OpenGL?
true SOME people will spend 100 more on a grafix cards cause it is a lil faster then another.Quote:
Originally Posted by ahmad
but not ALL.
but the group of people that buy high-end cards has increased over the last few years from what i notice on alot fo forums.
and most wont spend 100 to 150 extra for a slightly faster card.
like when the X1800Xt came out it was faster then the 7800GTX but was also more expensive and from the forums i read i noticed that some not all people went and bought a X1800XT.
most went and bought a GTX simply cause it was alot cheaper.
If nvidia has a faster card with the 7900GTX they have 2 options.
A: they put it 100/150 dollars above the X1900XTX.
some people that are ok with spending 100 more for a small boost will buy Nvidia and nvidia will make more profit per card.
the majority will go buy ATI.
b: they price it at the same price as the X1900XTX.
then people have the choice that for more or less the same money they can buy a faster card.
this will result in that the majority will go and buy the Nvidia card and only a few will buy the ATI.
con si that per card you make less profit but you will sell alot more cards and will steal customers from the competition.
if Nvidia is smart theyl go with B cause yeah less profit per card but alot more cards sold and more people will have their card instead of the competitions card.
the only reason why you would go with A is if u arent able to deliver your card in massive quantities or if the price to fabricate the card is very high.
you dont want to have part of the high-end customers you want to dominate it.
You want to make shure a large part of the people has ur card wich makes them more likely to buy ur card again next upgrade (unless that companys card at that point suxx).
that and you want to keep money away from ur competitor.