News: AM2 ES to appear in February

nop long long time ago that was like 2 months ago before christmas but i assure the cookie looks good and it changes its color with time is a nice cookie xD

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Originally Posted by LowRun

Maybe this post by Tony will shed some light.



http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...0&postcount=90

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Well what I think he's vaguely refering to is the insane speeds that AM2's controller is capable of scaling to. AMD did a fantastic job and I gotta admit... its blistering fast and is going to put Intel on the run for quite some time. Damn thing I have 2GB of D9 handy cuz its going to be put to goooood use :D

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Originally Posted by leviathan18

dunno im in the same side so you have to bet with nn step he is the only one with ddr3....

i bet the cookie i won from UnG is new or at least he said that

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:p: Well my bet is two oF Rachael's famous Chocolate Chip Cookies :p:
Think your man enough to stand up to that bet

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Originally Posted by nn_step

:p: Well my bet is two oF Rachael's famous Chocolate Chip Cookies :p:
Think your man enough to stand up to that bet

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ok i will bet my UnG color changin cookie and 1 oreo


(disclaimer: shipping and taxes not included if you win)

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Originally Posted by leviathan18

ok i will bet my UnG color changin cookie and 1 oreo


(disclaimer: shipping and taxes not included if you win)

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Deal.. :toast:

LOL at both of you i want a pick of the cookie when the deal is done!

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Originally Posted by Mr_Slinky

LOL at both of you i want a pick of the cookie when the deal is done!

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only if you get into the betting action.. otherwise.. nope:p:

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Originally Posted by largon

1. DDR800? Socket F is DDR667 just like M2.

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Why? All K8s post Rev. C0 officially supports operation with 200 MHz, 266 MHz, 333 MHz and 400 MHz Bus Memory Modules using Divisors and with Revision E more Divisors were introduced to run up to 533 MHz Bus DDR Memory Modules without even touching the Base Clock. AMD can also use Divisors to support several Frecuencies of DDR-II Memory Modules, including 533 MHz, 667 MHz and 800 MHz easily.

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Originally Posted by largon

:shrug: GDDR_ chips can't be used as system memory. They are waaayyyy too wide for system memory use.

For example GDDR3 is organised internally as x32 -> one system memory dimm with GDDR3 would be living hell for a memctrl to drive because one x32 GDDR3 dimm equals to 4 (yes, four) x8 DDR DIMMs.

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well actually it was a low end card (64bit) so it did have system memory chips on it.
elixir chips i remember exactly the same as some ddr stick i had.

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Originally Posted by nn_step

only if you get into the betting action.. otherwise.. nope:p:

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i want a pic as in picture of the cookies that you recieve or you send sorry i know i wrote pick i was a little under the weather (as always)

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Originally Posted by Mr_Slinky

i want a pic as in picture of the cookies that you recieve or you send sorry i know i wrote pick i was a little under the weather (as always)

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Sorry about that.. have a look http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../choc_chip.gif

They taste really good:slobber:

zir_blazer,
Actually if Socket F base HTT is 333MHz using dividers lower than cpu multiplier would result in non-standard frequencys. And non-standard anything doesn't sound too good within the server world.
For example:
7*333Mz = 2333MHz
Using 1 step higher "divider" than cpu multi:
2333 / 6 = 388.8 (DDR777.7)
2 steps higher:
2333 / 5 = 466.6 (DDR933.2)

Just guessing here. :p:


brandinb,
Yes, old graphics card did use normal "system memory" chips. Note that those were not GDDR chips which is a whole different memory type. GDDR is designed to offer maximal memory throughput in the expense of response time.

Nothing would prevent mfg's from using normal DDR and DDR2 on their cards - except the limited bandwidth those "narrow" (x8) system memory chips would offer.

All the official comments that I heared from Socket M2 Processors Frecuencies always had a multiple of 200 MHz like today (For example here. A bit old but the latest ones that I remember also looked like that). I do not recall in more than one year hearing about a 333 MHz Base Clock with the only exeption being The Inquirer.
My guess? The 333 MHz Base Clock is a myth from someone that forgetted that DDR-II is Quad Pumped. Memory Chips internally works at 1/4 the advertised Frecuency, so if the Memory Chips are running at 133 MHz, you're getting an effective 533 MHz. Current Divisors would work this way and this speculation is more solid than using non integer Multipliers or have headaches figuring out how to reorganizate the Performance Rating Model because now every higher model would be getting only 166 MHz instead of a full 200 MHz. Besides, Intel is also still using 200 MHz FSB yet supports DDR-II Memory Modules Frecuencies (Also using Divisors). All this should apply to Socket F as well.

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Originally Posted by zir_blazer

I do not recall in more than one year hearing about a 333 MHz Base Clock with the only exeption being The Inquirer.
My guess? The 333 MHz Base Clock is a myth from someone that forgetted that DDR-II is Quad Pumped.

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The 333 base FSB is not a myth. What is a myth is that it will use DDR3.

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Originally Posted by Sentential

The 333 base FSB is not a myth. What is a myth is that it will use DDR3.

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Yes because you know everything right :stick: :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Sentential

The 333 base FSB is not a myth. What is a myth is that it will use DDR3.

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Show a Link from a reputable enough source (The Inquirer not included) that says that it got a 333 MHz Base Clock. DDR-III being a myth is something that many knows from early for the simple reason that it is a prototype far away from mass production and that was impossible that was ready for Socket M2 estimated launch date.

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Originally Posted by nn_step

So how much later :stick: Thorry if you seem to know everything :stick: What makes you think it wont be later not sooner :stick:

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Well that my friend is (as we say over here) for me to know and for you to ask. :toast:

And that will be all I have to say about that.

Just wait till Socket F hits, everything will become much clearer.

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Originally Posted by Thorry

Well that my friend is (as we say over here) for me to know and for you to ask. :toast:

And that will be all I have to say about that.

Just wait till Socket F hits, everything will become much clearer.

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:stick: Dude I said that 4 weeks ago..:fact: try something original:p:

Ah well, I could explain everything here and you would say: Aaaah it's like that?. But then I would be in trouble with my sources since most of it is still under NDA.

But when Socket F is revealed in it's full glory you will understand what AM2 and S1 will be because the platform is the same (as with 940, 939 and 754). Also Socket F will give max performance so you know AM2 will be equal or less in features and performance.

Since Socket F is around the corner just hold your breath for a couple of weeks and all things will be revealed. Also AM2's release date will be close to Conroe's release date.

you can send me a PM i wont say anything... but the wait is killing me

If it has a base clock of 200 then DDR2 dividers will be interesting to say the least. I've never seen it said that the base clock will be 200 in fact i seem to remember an anand article about how we're going to be looking at very low multis for the low end chips because of the higher base freq.

afaik they will make their lower model the 3200 or 3500 so they wont use ultra low multi

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Originally Posted by nn_step

Yes because you know everything right :stick: :rolleyes:

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lol....

As for published proof this is the best I can find:

http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?new...2JlciAgLDIwMDU

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Originally Posted by Sentential

lol....

As for published proof this is the best I can find:

http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?new...2JlciAgLDIwMDU

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But since I still can't buy it right now.. There is no Real proof of anything :p:

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Originally Posted by nn_step

But since I still can't buy it right now.. There is no Real proof of anything :p:

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Damnit you find us out... AMD is closing down, there will never be a AM2 platform :p:

If you want proof of something which is under NDA, why are you talking about it at all? :stick:

At this point everything is speculation, but people that have actually seen and worked with the pre-release products know the truth. Since they are under NDA they can only leak a little bit of info at a time, it's just a matter of knowing the right people and evaluating the sources :fact: