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Im confused here, I initially got this ASrock sual sata 939 thinking ahead to the upgrade to the am2 cpu which this mobo supports, but if going to ddr2 or 3 who knows, I only have slots for DDR1, will ddr2 and 3 be 184 pinners also?
I know it sounds like a noob question but why would asrock make this product if the memory wont support it?
Socket 939 and M2 are not compatable..
But I understand there are new 65nm Chips coming out for 939
Isn't M2 940 pins? If it makes you feel any better I have a feeling the Sempron line will be 939 for a long time. Who knows I could very well be full of @#$&.
Yes it will be 940 pins, but not the same socket 940 we now up to date.
I know it's not the same pin out as the current 940. I was just making the piont that a socket 939 motherboard won't work.
That would be nice, though I know one thing, if AMD is going to use DDR2 they are going to lose there advantage of there integrated memorycontroller because of the high Cas lacenty.Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
And if Intel is going to boost the Pentium-M architecture up to 2,6-2,8GHz, it will be faster then the AMD64...
When the AM2 upgrade card for that mobo comes out, the memory slots will be on the card and you will use those instead of the ones on the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philosophy
Why do you say that? There is some DDR2-667 that does 3-2-2-x.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vassili
Alot of people used to use TCCD at between DDR550-600 @ 2.5-3-3-8 or 2.5-4-3-8.
When AM2 comes out I bet there will be DDR2-800 @ 3-2-2-x.
2006 will start seeing Dual core dual's. A64 X2's will benefit quite substantially from the extra bandwidth offered by DDR2, much more then single cores would.
DDR2 really didn't make sense for A64's when Intel introduced it. Single core A64's really don't need it, especially back at it's introduction, early DDR2 would have hurt A64's and a new platform would have enraged customers.
With that being said I'm disappointed that the only probable change with AM2 based CPU's will be the DDR2 mem-controller. I was hoping they would tweak the architecture alittle and shrink the cache latencies, even just alittle.
65nm would have kept AMD at an advantage however now that they seem to have problems they are letting Intel get back at them in a big way. 65nm P-D's well overclocked are starting to become more competitive then their crappy 90nm predecessors.
Conroe will take the game away from AMD even if AM2 is 10% better then 939's unless there is alot we don't know about.
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Originally Posted by eknny
Ok ty I was wondering how that was supposed to work out..
I do plan on keeping this mobo as a venice holder sooner or later while I move my x2 onto another mobo with voltage changes,I just was wondering how that was gonna be, thnx for clearing it up for me, its gonna have to be on helluva bug riser card I guess to hold a cpu and hopefully 4 dimms of ram..
man things are getting awfully confusing. Today I was worried tht my upgrade to dualcore 939 was too late as AM2 was going to be with us in the next quarter, now im back at square one not knowing whts going on :confused:
Im sure im not alone :)
If AMD"s first chips on DDR2 are 90nm, little will have changed going from s939. Take advantage of the deals coming up when AM2's shadow appears Summer 2k6.
If you're not going 7800GT SLI, then its not as cost effective to go either crossfire or sli with anything else. Might I suggest you get the X1900 or G71 single card when they come out if you're in for gfx upgrade.
Plus I'd trade that Opty in for a dual core one sometime soon too :)
Perkam
But an A64 with a memory speed of 667mhz with 3-4-4-8 or so is not that much faster that an A64 with a memory speed of 500mhz with 2-2-2-5. I think the move to DDR3 is smarter for AMD, with performance (and marketing) on mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by leviathan18
It won't happen, it's DDR2 for now.
personally i can't wait for socket m2 so that i can pick up a dual 3ghz 939 chip and 2 gig of good ddr1 cheap secondhand.
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Originally Posted by mursaat
perhaps but who in this forum stays stock???? you always can buy 8000u and rock the world with them
Actually DDR400@2-2-2-5 is superior until there will be DDR2-800 @ 3-3-3-8
and By the time that happens DDR3 will be out.. have to remember they have been sampling for almost a Year now
I'll be happy to take DDR2-799 @ 3-3-3-8 over DDR400 @ 2-2-2-5 anyday.Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
I guess you have been under a rock or something, 512MB sticks of Micron D9s can easily do 400Mhz @ 3-2-2, where 1GB sticks has seen actions at 400Mhz @ 4-2-2......:stick: So does that mean DDR3 is out?:rolleyes:
That's interesting because I can't find any Modules on newegg that do that
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ubmit=Property
or
Zipzoomfly
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...oryCode=011132
I found modules that do 5-3-3-8
But none that do 3-3-3-8
So please feel free to show them to me
The best DDR2 on the market at the moment is the Corsair 8000UL's, with 2.3v easy to get 933mhz @ 4-3-3-4 Prime stable & combined with high FSB, they are speed kings made in heaven :)
well check fuggers thread.... :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
I did.. and I checked and it is 5-4-4-9 stock.. thus not natively 3-2-2-4
Hence it is in XtremeBandwidth
Search for Micron D9s...they are the TCCD of DDR2...
Perkam
but you can achieve those timmings....
If you're gonna argue about "stock" timings, then why the HELL are you posting in Xtreme Systems forum? Go post in Stock Systems forum or something, because the only thing stock about our rigs are the AMD/Intel case stickers.Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
Perhaps you should be in StockSystems.org and not XtremeSystems.orgQuote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
DDR400 2-2-2-5 were never OFFICIALLY made until after a WHILE DDR400 was created. Actually even today, DDR400 2-2-2-5 is still only MANUALLY set, SPD are still at 2.5-3-3, so does that mean it's "natively" not 2-2-2-5? :rolleyes:
As I said before, if you think AM2 is going to be DDR3, I think a LOT of people here will take a bet on with you for any amount of money.