Stability is measured is many different ways but I'll tell you what if I were you I'd reduce the amount of the bet, that guy really knows what he's up to and could prbably take your money off you.:D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Aviator
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Stability is measured is many different ways but I'll tell you what if I were you I'd reduce the amount of the bet, that guy really knows what he's up to and could prbably take your money off you.:D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Aviator
Heh, +1.Quote:
Originally Posted by kimandsally
Chances that it's Prime stable on a 800MHz+ OC under phase are high imo.
Chances that you could repeat that on an A8N32 are pretty high too, from my limited experience of the board on phase. Prime stable 900MHz OC on a Venice 3000+ E6 wasn't at all shabby.
You got that bet I hope you have paypal because once my modded LS is here your $20.00 is mine. I will boot at those settings no doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
I am using a CABCE 0516 which thrives on cold temps :)
Maybe I will even beat your SPI score while I am at it. This can ram do 290+mhz
I'm siding with s7e9h3n on this one. He is using an auto cascade which is much colder and has a 0516 aswell as a 0513 and 0512 iirc. You underestimate his power.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrashOv3r1De
negative. you need to find some decent bh-5 before you can beat his pi ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by CrashOv3r1De
long way to go
Hmm how good are the Experts vdimm after 3.9v+? do it work well or will it crap out like on the lanparty nf4-d?, any one have testet that yet?
/me takes ringside seat. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by k00lance
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Originally Posted by kimandsally
Glad to help bro. Will try to get the vapo back asap its undergoing some mods like I said before. I will give you guys a little taste of what the a8n32 sli dlx can do on air. Since I have a 0516 i am guessing it will be a piss poor oc on air but i can still show the potential.
hopefully i can do something like 285*11 or atleast 280x11 or so ;)
Try 250 x 12 first:DQuote:
Originally Posted by CrashOv3r1De
Here's a little shot of stability @ stock volt:)
fx-55 - ballistix l503 2gb - pc p&c 1000 watt - expert mobo:) - chilly1 vapochill
Just a tryout shot how my expert is doing.. once I conclude it is stable
I will let my crazy fx-57s go on tonight:D
Also I tried a8n32 and 1009 bios enable and it let me use dividers I couldn't use before. Good news for a8n32 users:)
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/5650/29jp.jpg
Why would a 0516 oc bad on air. They are all around good clockers. All 57's are. And why is the Vapo already back at the shop? you just bought it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrashOv3r1De
LOL...only after you volt mod it and put heatsinks on it. The Vmem sucks for anyone with BH5, and the Vcore limitation for X2 core chips is simply ridiculous. No offense, crash, but your not out there on the edge yet if you haven't found the limits of that Asus board.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrashOv3r1De
I'm not surprised you didn't care for the DFI. It isn't a plug n play board like the Asus is. But that's why you won't see an Asus at the top of the heap either. The Asus has far too many short comings to be a serious contender. It makes a better "vanilla" board for those looking for an easier time with things. Although the Asus may be a good fit for you (easy overclocker), it has serious shortcomings for others with different plans or hardware. For those with a X2 core, or BH5 memory, volt modding is a must. If you have SLI and want another PCI slot you can forget the Asus as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by CrashOv3r1De
C'mon crash, the layout BLOWS. If you water cool the cards you can forget about using any other PCI slots (unless you use the terrible low profile blocks that kill flow rate). If you run two dual slot vid cards in SLI you're hosed as well. The second vid card in SLI covers the cmos jumper for godsake!!! Sorry, no matter how you slice it, the Asus layout sucks big time.Quote:
you can run sli no problem will be a little tight though. if you have WC its great
Hardly. In fact, this is the exact reason I dumped the Asus...it just came up short for serious 24/7 clocks. I didn't have time to waste for volt mods, heatsinks, dividers that didn't work, RAID that didn't work, and constantly having to clear the cmos from overclocks that didn't work (which, BTW, is a total pain in the butt on the asus. You actually have to remove the second vid card to get to the cmos jumper!! And when you have water cooling, its a total pain in the A$$!! What a joke. Asus blew it big time on the layout). All this and waiting on BIOS updates to fix issues that shouldn't exist in the first place on a 24/7 gaming rig (RAID problems, divider problems, etc).Quote:
only guys like opp/pedro/OPB need the expert for all of the crazy adjustments but when you run 24/7 no one can sustain those speeds and thats exactly why the asus is better, it is much more stable and when we are looking at 24/7 overclock it will do just as good as dfi but with more stability
I live for serious 24/7 overclocked gaming rigs. I gave the Asus its fair shot and it came up short.....yet again. For serious 24/7 duty, with SLI and all the trimmings, the DFI still rules. You just have to invest time to get it to run stable. Now, if you don't want to invest that kind of time to tweak the DFI, the Asus is there for those who want things a little more plug n play (and who don't have to worry about that ridiculously screwed up layout).
Mike I have one thing to say about that........:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
It's a great view from the sidelines. I have neither the nads or the funds to play in this game......:) :) But my money is on s7e9h3n and DFI. :cool:
Perhaps this is a competition of clockers, but, to be honest, I don't even see this as a competition of the boards. Both have strengths and weaknesses in very different areas which make them a really bad match up.
As you can see from above, I've had my own personal frustrations with the Asus for the reasons mentioned. A board like this could never be in my case. ( I apologize, crash, if my response seemed to grumpy. I think you know the feeling after dealing with your dfi :) )
I don't think the DFI is without serious issues either...that's without a doubt. I'd certainly prefer a much larger portion of stability and safety to go with my overclocking options...thank you very much. But, in the end, for me, I guess I'm willing to weather the risks and tame the BIOS for the performance and layout.
Certainly others have their personal "best fit" as well. So the Asus can indeed fit better as well for some....perhaps many.
This is why I'll take issue with any clear "board of choice" right now. They all have issues.
EDIT - And, oh, BTW, I'd have to put my money on s7e9h3n :D
Hmmmm....well then - how long does prime need to run? ;) The reason I ask is because I have to do "maintenance" on my board if I let it run for extended lengths of time. Here's what happens after 30min of running:Quote:
Originally Posted by Aviator
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1...ofrost15qq.jpg
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/364/moboall5qj.jpg
I've just been lazy, but for $2000, I'd be happy to reinsulate :D
Get ready to put-up or shut-up........
BTW, I'm running out the door right now to pick up one of those Rev. AD0 Ultra-D's. Can't wait to test that baby out:woot:
I just got my SLI-DR from NewEgg and its a AB0 :(Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
I take it I can use standard MCW55 or the overly prced DD blocks NV7800 or whatever without issue on the SLI-DR (non Expert) using dual cards. I dont care about covering up the PCI slots or the jumpers. I will make an extended pcb board for the jumpers anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by mdzcpa
Personally, I think the expert is better than Rev.AD0 SLI-DR, Ultra-D. I've tried 3 ADO SLI-DRs, and 3 ADO Ultra-Ds, 3 experts, and came to the conclusion that the expert is better while OCIng with my golden 0516.
The new ADO revision of the old LP NF4 series are certainly better than the previous revision, but still experienced the expert being better. I tried tweaking with all of the boards, and the expert gave me the best 32mb spi result. :)
I am not as concerned with how people say it clocks for them between the 2 boards, we all know both boards are great for clocking. I am more concerned with whether a bios release from DFI has fixed the cpu issue, and the board's layout bonus compared to the SLI-DR.Quote:
Originally Posted by formyfaith
If I get confirmed word from a solid source that the cpu issue has been addressed, you will soon see my brand new SLI-DR up for Sale so I can grab the Expert. I will be running in SLI mode, so space is a premium for me. Dont want the cards right up next to each other if I can help it. Certainly doesnt help the ram temps regardless of the cores being water cooled.
^ Listen to the WR holder of spi32m :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by formyfaith
But I'm still needing/wanting a board to play with using TCCD....and that's one of the Expert's shortcoming. The AD0 should fill that void ;)
May be you need to insulate the back better;)
Can I see some photos of the back of your mob?
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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Me too. I really don't want to put in a golden 170 if the cpu issue is not fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calderbrae
Exactlly.Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderstruck!
Eh, looks like it was a very few boards that did this, but a few is enough for me to consider not buying it. I dont have tons of cash laying around, so replacing a cpu would not be goooood.
Well it would sureley have to be atleast 24 hours minimum. Looking at what happens after 30 minutes I don't know if its phsyically possible for the board to survive for 24h under load like that :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Oooo frost:toast: !
Aviator: You need to read properly!
It is obviously not insulated well enough.. has nothing to do with his "set up."
I am sure it will run 24:D