Golden FX-57 dead - another DFI Expert victim?

Damn :( that really blows Pedro and Ricky. That was such a nice chip.

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Originally Posted by mikeguava

So before it was the memory - now it is the memory controler :cool:

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That isn't cool at all :mad:
I really liked that cpu :(
And to XGMan, I don't think it's the risk of overclocking, it just happens to often on those new DFI boards, and it isn't a blame of the 0,09um process as Dumo's FX55 Clawhammer died on those boards too

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Originally Posted by HermS

Or get told to read the rules and include your shoe size in your sig :stick:

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QFT~~~ ROTFL :p:

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Originally Posted by HermS

Or get told to read the rules and include your shoe size in your sig :stick:

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:rofl:

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Originally Posted by Pedro Rocha

Really bad news, my golden FX-57 (that do more than 3.900mhz benchable) just die after a few hours on the new DFI Expert...:mad: :mad: :mad:

There are any physical damage, but the cpu is really dead test it on another 3 boards, just don't boot and turns board down.

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What kind of RAM did you have and at what volts did you have RAM and CPU when the CPU died?

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Originally Posted by xgman

You running that cpu that high of an overclock and you don't think that maybe, just maybe, it's the cpu that gave out and nothing wrong with the board? My first though was that you pushed the fx too high and it just had enough after a while. That's the risk of overclocking.

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you serious about this?:ROTF:

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Originally Posted by Piotrsama

Heh, the problem for DFI is that known OCers are experiencing deaths.

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Same with the coldboot/death on the Ultra but what response did DFI give?

Still to this day ppl without the problem are convinced its ALWAYS user error.

My personal view is DFI put a very large premium on their Boards because of the R&D into making (great) clocking board, but it seems that the same care is NOT put into other area's.

Just to clarify : Before put it on the Expert I run the CPU with the same EXACT conditions (Cooling, VCore, VMem, etc..) in the SLI DR without any issues - put it on the DFI and die after a few hours ..
I have other FX runnig at around 3.500mhz on the SLI-DR for 6 months (at least 12hours /day) under phase without any issues..

I'd still like to know what voltages you had.

Did you measure Vcore with a DMM?

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Originally Posted by Pedro Rocha

Just to clarify : Before put it on the Expert I run the CPU with the same EXACT conditions (Cooling, VCore, VMem, etc..) in the SLI DR without any issues - put it on the DFI and die after a few hours ..
I have other FX runnig at around 3.500mhz on the SLI-DR for 6 months (at least 12hours /day) under phase without any issues..

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Have you spoken to DFI about this?

Threads like this actually drive manufacturers away from enthusiasts, I would seriously consider talking to DFI and seeing if your board actually does have issues and not creating mass panic on a forum without actually knowing what killed the CPU.

For the record I have killed a Dothan just by swapping it to a know good board in the past 2 weeks, did the board kill it...I have no idea, but i can tell you there is nothing wrong with the P4c800E as its running another Dothan just fine now.

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Originally Posted by Tony

Have you spoken to DFI about this?

Threads like this actually drive manufacturers away from enthusiasts, I would seriously consider talking to DFI and seeing if your board actually does have issues and not creating mass panic on a forum without actually knowing what killed the CPU.

For the record I have killed a Dothan just by swapping it to a know good board in the past 2 weeks, did the board kill it...I have no idea, but i can tell you there is nothing wrong with the P4c800E as its running another Dothan just fine now.

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you right tony. that is the big problem.
is not the only one with dead cpu on DFI boards, know people think
that all of the expert and the rdx200 are cpu killers.
and that is not trow.

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Originally Posted by Pedro Rocha

Just to clarify : Before put it on the Expert I run the CPU with the same EXACT conditions (Cooling, VCore, VMem, etc..) in the SLI DR without any issues - put it on the DFI and die after a few hours ..
I have other FX runnig at around 3.500mhz on the SLI-DR for 6 months (at least 12hours /day) under phase without any issues..

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Originally Posted by Angry_Games

YOU CANNOT JUST PLUG YOUR SETTINGS FROM YOUR NF4 LANPARTY BOARD YOU HAVE NOW INTO THIS AND EXPECT THE SAME RESULTS

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http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/show...6&postcount=77

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Originally Posted by Onepagebook

for those who are kinda lazy to find the best setting by just copy all from old nf4 series, you

will be sorry I promise you.:D especially the TCCD users;)

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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...02&postcount=1

:fact: :D

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Originally Posted by Tony

Have you spoken to DFI about this?

Threads like this actually drive manufacturers away from enthusiasts, I would seriously consider talking to DFI and seeing if your board actually does have issues and not creating mass panic on a forum without actually knowing what killed the CPU.

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Well said. I think everyone is going into hysteria....yet again. It always happens with the top mobo when everyone serious about overclocking moves to it. If there was an inherent problem chips would be dropping dead everywhere. Instead, we have a handful of deaths at most. OPB can't be blamed on the board. And Pedro's situation is still unknown. CPUs do die when you push them hard enough.

Given everyone who has tried the Expert and is running it right now, there aren't enough reports of CPU death to formulate any credible trend.

I remember the old days of overclocking when individuals actually knew they were at risk and accepted the consequences. Now days, at the very first sign of a hiccup while running the system 100000% out of spec, and everyone blames the hardware. Man, folks have become spoiled.

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Originally Posted by mdzcpa

I remember the old days of overclocking when individuals actually knew they were at risk and accepted the consequences. Now days, at the very first sign of a hiccup while running the system 100000% out of spec, and everyone blames the hardware. Man, folks have become spoiled.

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I EXPECT hardware to die ! :D

In fact if I don't kill something from time to time I feel like I'm not pushing things far enough.

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Originally Posted by Major

I EXPECT hardware to die ! :D

In fact if I don't kill something from time to time I feel like I'm not pushing things far enough.

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EXACTLY!

No one likes to have hardware go tits up, but it happens when you push the envelope. I still feel bad for Pedro to lose such a nice chip. But, when your into this hobby, hardware dies sometimes.

well, think back to the previous DFI boards that killed memory. people said that was user error until DFI finally admitted fault. how long were those users called stupid or noobs?

this is just a repeat of a bad movie. too bad a lot of people dont remember watching it happen the first time

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Originally Posted by zabomb4163

well, think back to the previous DFI boards that killed memory. people said that was user error until DFI finally admitted fault. how long were those users called stupid or noobs?

this is just a repeat of a bad movie. too bad a lot of people dont remember watching it happen the first time

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Not really. I've been around OCing and dying hardware since 1999 and I don't forget anything. The real answer is that I come from a backgorund where we used to solder the cache bridges on our $800 chips with magnifiying glasses and replaced clockgen chips on our mobos. Back then, you had to work for what you wanted with hard mods. None of this BIOS adjustable everything existed. Overclocking "features" or not, overclocking is overclocking and there is always a risk.

I've had chips die. I've had mobos die. I've had vid cards die. The list is endless. But, I never came onto a forum and blamed the hardware....ever.

BTW, DFI never admitted anything on the Ultra/ SLI DR. ALl they said was that you should not run low mem voltages with the 4v jumper in place. There was just too much voltage to be eaten up and disapated for that. I can't beleive folks freak out about that. A perfectly designed feature....no. But, lol....I ran far MORE risk when I had to hard solder volt mod my mobos.

That's all I'll say on this topic. I feel bad for Pedro and I'll leave it at that.

Let the hysteria continue!

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Originally Posted by Tony

Threads like this actually drive manufacturers away from enthusiasts, I would seriously consider talking to DFI and seeing if your board actually does have issues and not creating mass panic on a forum without actually knowing what killed the CPU.

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I thought that what enthusiast forums are for? To report the good and the bad. If he had a great overclock should he talk to DFi before he reports his wonderful results? The same is true with bad results. Sure it could just be one or two boards,but why should he stay tight-lipped and not say anything?

Personally I don't care if these mobo manufacturers didn't allow 4vdimm and 3v.to the cpu, there are still going to be record breaking oc's,but it might take a bit of electrical and soldering knowledge.

Another CPU....Another FX.... Died in Portugal!

Hi all, this is my first post and sorry to start with bad news. A friend of my has a FX55 that died today on DFI Expert....and without any OC!!:mad:

He played BF2 last night for a couple of hours and at the end he shutdown the computer without any problem as everyone else. Today he powerup the computer and imediatily hears a few bips and only 3 leds stay still...Nothing more happens....Just beeeeppp....beeeeppp....and so on!.............

He as another computer working but with a DFI-SLI DR/Opty146. He took way the Opty and place the FX55 on the DFI-SLI DR. Powerup the computer and....Same thing....few bips and only 3 leds stay still...Nothing more happens....Just beeeeppp....beeeeppp....and so on!.............

He didn't want to risk and try is healthy Opty on the Expert because his a fried of another death.:nono:

DFI Portugal was contacted and is informed of this bizzard situation, they say that they will inform DFI Taywan of wait for a first reaction and today is holliday in Portugal, soo friday or during the weekend DFI Portugal will have in their hands the board and the FX55.

What is going on?!...This is very strange soo many boards (DFI Nvidia/ATI) with potencial problems that could hurt the image DFI company. Something is not right with this boards and DFI has to look serious and focus on the problems as quick as possible...There's to many DFI costumers with very expensive CPU on this boards and some are burning out.

This case is indeed very strange...Without any OC!!....Powerup and the FX55 is dead!.........:eek:

I will follow his bad luck very close, because i my self, i'm a DFI Expert owner!!...Opty146: 3Ghz/DRR500...And i'm very affraid!:confused:

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He played BF2 last night for a couple of hours and at the end he shutdown the computer without any problem as everyone else. Today he powerup the computer and imediatily hears a few bips and only 3 leds stay still...Nothing more happens....Just beeeeppp....beeeeppp....and so on!.............

He as another computer working but with a DFI-SLI DR/Opty146. He took way the Opty and place the FX55 on the DFI-SLI DR. Powerup the computer and....Same thing....few bips and only 3 leds stay still...Nothing more happens....Just beeeeppp....beeeeppp....and so on!.............

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Hm, 3 leds on the DFI boards means the CPU works and there is a problem detecting the RAM.

Now, that could still fit the theory of a fried memory controller on the CPU.

But just to be sure, can your friend do a full CMOS clear on the SDI-DR, to rule out that saved BIOS settings from the Opteron prevented the FX from finding the RAM?

S-T-A-Y ... A-W-A-Y ... F-R-O-M ... E-X-P-E-R-T .... :eek:

Jesus!!! When will these people learn, this board has demons, don't throw your money down the drain. Use safer boards.

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Originally Posted by Martin Cracauer

Hm, 3 leds on the DFI boards means the CPU works and there is a problem detecting the RAM.

Now, that could still fit the theory of a fried memory controller on the CPU.

But just to be sure, can your friend do a full CMOS clear on the SDI-DR, to rule out that saved BIOS settings from the Opteron prevented the FX from finding the RAM?

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Martin, in DFI manual it's very clear and i know this for sure...

4 red leds up: System startup
3 red leds up: CPU Detected
2 red leds up: DRAM Detected
1 red leds up: VGA Detected
zero leds: System boot-up

This means each test sucessfull, one red led goes off. If 3 red leds are up and the system holds, that means that there's a problem with the CPU, didnt pass the test diagnost.

My friend did several CMOS Clear on both boards, almost every time before a system startup, he even changed his ram setup with another similar kit, he basicly change almost all the hardware.

In every diferent system setup he tried, where he puts that FX55, the problem was the same. He put the Opty back again in the DFI-SLI DR, made a CMOS Clear and the system powerup nicely and smooth as it was before.

All points out to the FX55 death....On a DFI Expert!:confused:

Regards

dfi nf4 boards prob have a big time record in buring CPUs. You guys should consider using Asrock :D.

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Originally Posted by Pedro Rocha

Just to clarify : Before put it on the Expert I run the CPU with the same EXACT conditions (Cooling, VCore, VMem, etc..) in the SLI DR without any issues - put it on the DFI and die after a few hours ..
I have other FX runnig at around 3.500mhz on the SLI-DR for 6 months (at least 12hours /day) under phase without any issues..

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Same here....Ran under cascade around 7 hours daily for 3 months (stock run and highly overclocked benching) with SLI-DR and FX55 claw/FX57 and no problem...

The best thing right now is for DFI to let us know what problem/s (if any) that cause malfunction of this boards......or what kind of user error if any.
At least with Ultra-D/SLI DR DFI warned us about possible problem with 4V jumper.

which psu are you guys using?? maybe is a problem with dfi+psu.