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12-04-2005, 02:34 AM
kiwi

It is hard to boot with 201+ with 14x multi, it is pretty much the limit of the chip on air. Might try the difference on DICE some day.
12-04-2005, 02:55 AM
skirms_fr

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

skirms_fr, your using a pentium 4 cpu?
to me it sounds like your problem is that the default setting in bios for this board is that pciE graphics are set as default display device.
im not sure if this works, but you could try to enter bios blind and go directly to the pci/pciE option in bios and change it.
this only works if your system initializes properly, wich i dont know...

or your cpu is simply dead since 2 pins are missing... can you test the cpu in another system or have another cpu to try?

i va e p4 2.8 s478 with 2 pin missing , a pm 740 s479 and a pm780 s479

i m going to try to mod the PSU like that http://www.crazy-oc.de/Stecker.htm
12-04-2005, 07:17 AM
skirms_fr

it s ok , it was the bios ;)
12-04-2005, 10:21 AM
saaya

your welcome sangboy:)

well i cant afford a dothan dude :D
i got this banias on ebay 2 years ago for 40€ :D
i was working on a pentium m to pentium 4 478 adapter back then hehhe
but i couldnt afford to make a prototype pcb, plus i didnt know how to use the pcb trace design tools correctly... and there were like 20 pins i couldnt identify...
im not even sure my adapter would have worked hahahah, but it was fun, and it was even more fun to see everybody go ct479 after nobody really believed me that an adapter could be built :D
http://members.dodo.com.au/~cameron1...omparison3.htm
http://members.dodo.com.au/~cameron1...d/pm_to_p4.htm

the next thing we need is a 478 yonah to 775 adapter :D
i hope somebody from asus reads this :hrhr:

anyways, thats how i got this banias, and i cant afford a dothan... the ones i saw on ebay now are way to expensive for a secondary rig, and id rather get a 165 for my main rig than a dothan for this secondary rig.

oh and yeah, my ct479 is set to 100fsb.

thx vapor, i might pop in your 780es to check if theres also a fsb limit, but i dont think so.
12-05-2005, 05:36 AM
Movieman

Has anyone used a retail 770 chip in their projects? I'm trying to get an idea what to expect when I get into this in a week or so.Board will be a P4GD1
Any info appreciated, voltages, top speed that you've seen and 24/7 stable speeds,etc....Thanks in advance.
12-05-2005, 06:44 AM
saaya

hmmm depends... the chips vary a lot... could be anything from 2.5 to 2.9ghz afaik
12-05-2005, 07:43 AM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Has anyone used a retail 770 chip in their projects? I'm trying to get an idea what to expect when I get into this in a week or so.Board will be a P4GD1
Any info appreciated, voltages, top speed that you've seen and 24/7 stable speeds,etc....Thanks in advance.

I got around 2850mhz I think on my 770m with the ct-479 aluminum cooler fr be benches, you should be able to do somwhere between 2750 and 2900 for 24/7 I would imagine. Really depends on chip, but those were my results on the only 770m I had.
12-05-2005, 08:57 AM
toledo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Has anyone used a retail 770 chip in their projects? I'm trying to get an idea what to expect when I get into this in a week or so.Board will be a P4GD1
Any info appreciated, voltages, top speed that you've seen and 24/7 stable speeds,etc....Thanks in advance.

As Kingpin said . 2800 for 24/7 use here with an unmoded P4GD1 (no mods other than vdimm )
12-05-2005, 09:38 AM
Movieman

Thanks to all..Funny thing, I first read an article about the dothan cpu in june, then a forum through a link, then saw a link to k|ngp|n's web page. Thats what did it for me!
So either I should Thank him or blame him for all this $$$ I'm spending!:D
12-05-2005, 02:55 PM
saaya

well according to the guy i got the 780es chips from some of them only did 2.6ghz... and those were chips of a very recent stepping...

so as i said, there are bad chips amongst them, but most seem to do 2.7 or 2.8ghz :)
12-05-2005, 03:01 PM
kiwi

I see that there are some download links added :)

Could you update the link to EIST.zip because
http://www.cpuid.org/download/eist.zip
does not work!

It has been attached to the post on XS:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=40562&stc=1

Thanks and I am sure you will find this tool very valuable to change multi in Win

:toast:
12-05-2005, 03:17 PM
saaya

added :)
also added a link to download crystalcpu wich i used to change multis
12-05-2005, 04:16 PM
saaya

added some more links :D
the asus download servers are incredibly slow... the gloabl one is the fastest for me with 18kb/s :rolleyes:
for bios files thats ok, but for a 30mb audio driver it isnt!

some files are rather large, so im going to make a zip file with all the latest drivers and tools in it and will host it somewhere so you dont have to download all files one by one and wait for hours so the downloads are complete.
12-06-2005, 02:15 AM
RoyaL

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

well i cant afford a dothan dude :D
i got this banias on ebay 2 years ago for 40€ :D
i was working on a pentium m to pentium 4 478 adapter back then hehhe
but i couldnt afford to make a prototype pcb, plus i didnt know how to use the pcb trace design tools correctly... and there were like 20 pins i couldnt identify...
im not even sure my adapter would have worked hahahah, but it was fun, and it was even more fun to see everybody go ct479 after nobody really believed me that an adapter could be built :D
http://members.dodo.com.au/~cameron1...omparison3.htm
http://members.dodo.com.au/~cameron1...d/pm_to_p4.htm

the next thing we need is a 478 yonah to 775 adapter :D
i hope somebody from asus reads this :hrhr:

anyways, thats how i got this banias, and i cant afford a dothan... the ones i saw on ebay now are way to expensive for a secondary rig, and id rather get a 165 for my main rig than a dothan for this secondary rig.

oh and yeah, my ct479 is set to 100fsb.

Saaya XS's administrator can't afford a dothan for his second rig :eek: :p:

with a dothan on GD1 and a kickass vga,i think u'll have a high class second rig,maybe more powerful than your first one :D

let's put it like this:do me a yonah 775 adapter and i'll send you a dothan for free :D
12-06-2005, 02:38 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

your welcome sangboy:)

well i cant afford a dothan dude :D
i got this banias on ebay 2 years ago for 40€ :D
i was working on a pentium m to pentium 4 478 adapter back then hehhe
but i couldnt afford to make a prototype pcb, plus i didnt know how to use the pcb trace design tools correctly... and there were like 20 pins i couldnt identify...
im not even sure my adapter would have worked hahahah, but it was fun, and it was even more fun to see everybody go ct479 after nobody really believed me that an adapter could be built :D
http://members.dodo.com.au/~cameron1...omparison3.htm
http://members.dodo.com.au/~cameron1...d/pm_to_p4.htm

the next thing we need is a 478 yonah to 775 adapter :D
i hope somebody from asus reads this :hrhr:

anyways, thats how i got this banias, and i cant afford a dothan... the ones i saw on ebay now are way to expensive for a secondary rig, and id rather get a 165 for my main rig than a dothan for this secondary rig.

oh and yeah, my ct479 is set to 100fsb.

thx vapor, i might pop in your 780es to check if theres also a fsb limit, but i dont think so.

I'm a newcomer here, not a young guy(53) like the majority, but one thing impressed the hell out of me and that was the open hand of friendship and a willingness to help out a total stranger. It may be common here but as most of you know it's not common in life. The first guy I met here was runmc, an email to his web page and from him a lot of good advice and then went out of his way to help me find a P4GD1 that I'd been searching for months for. Then sayaa, a guy that lives half a world away and went out of his way to be helpfull to all here by setting up the purchase of the boards and the 780ES's.
I'll cut to the chase, I'll drop $50.00 in a kitty to get him one. Call it old age sentimentality, christmas sprit or maybe just the right thing to do under the circumstances to say thanks for what he's done.
If you think this is out of line, no problem by me, this is just how I feel.
12-06-2005, 02:42 AM
saaya

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoyaL

let's put it like this:do me a yonah 775 adapter and i'll send you a dothan for free :D

no money, no time, missing knowledge of cpu/chipset/bus architecture :/
i know 2 or 3 guys who could help me get it done who have the knowledge and could help out with money (its not that much actually, 300$ or so id guess) but they are all way more busy than i already am :lol:

the best chance for this adapter would be to keep asus nagging :D
or gigabyte... i will definately poke some people at cebit, maybe thatll do the trick :D
12-06-2005, 04:35 AM
saaya

ok, finished the folder with all tools and drivers :D
will post a link in 5mins

EDIT: "P4GD1 XS Edition Software Pack" is ready :D

its 130mb in size, i will zip it and upload it to filefactory now, if anybody knows another place to host this please let me know :)

EDIT2: its 99mb zipped
heres what it contains:

Quote:

contents of this software pack:

/BIOS/1006-final
/BIOS/1007-beta2

/DRIVER/Intel Chipset Drivers (default)
/DRIVER/Intel software Installation Utility V6.0.1.1002
/DRIVER/ITE IDE Controller
/DRIVER/Marvell Gigabit Lan 8053
/DRIVER/Marvell Gigabit Lan 8053 Open Source
/DRIVER/Marvell Gigabit Lan 8053-VCT
/DRIVER/Realtec alc861-5027
/DRIVER/USB 2.0 Driver

/TOOLS/915 Tweaker-beta
/TOOLS/AMI BIOS Editor
/TOOLS/Asus AIBooster 20035
/TOOLS/Asus Bios Image Editor
/TOOLS/Asus Probe
/TOOLS/Asus Update
/TOOLS/ClockGen for 954119
/TOOLS/ClockGen for 954123
/TOOLS/CPUZ-131
/TOOLS/CrystalCPUID46
/TOOLS/EIST Tool
12-06-2005, 06:06 AM
saaya

heres the download link, can somebody confirm it works?

http://www.filefactory.com/get/f.php...c25d31cccb4b98

it works for me, but you gotta use internet explorer to download via ftp, theres no http option and i havent checked the p2p option. please let me know if theres a problem with the download or if you can find a place to host this without advertising :)

download speeds for me are 200kb/s :)
12-06-2005, 06:49 AM
toledo

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

heres the download link, can somebody confirm it works?

http://www.filefactory.com/get/f.php...c25d31cccb4b98

download speeds for me are 200kb/s :)

It works great here ......but download speeds are only 13Kb/s for some reason .
12-06-2005, 06:50 AM
Xevipiu

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

download speeds for me are 200kb/s :)

+500k/s!

Thanks Saaya;)
12-06-2005, 06:55 AM
saaya

hmmm i guess the speeds depend on where you are located toledo...
plus under how much load their server are...

your welcome guys :toast:
hope you like it, i tried to make it as complete as possible :D
if you find a mistake or typo or have anything to update it with please let me know :)
12-06-2005, 07:00 AM
mrlobber

whoa, nice job, saaya :D :toast:
12-06-2005, 07:42 AM
saaya

thx :toast:
12-06-2005, 06:42 PM
death metal

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

i have a celeron D 2.4ghz i used to flash the bios on this board, i could use it to see if the limit is a mainboard or a cpu thing... but from initial tests it seems to be an incredibly bad ocer... :D

hmmm could it be that the ct479 is causing the fsb problems?
after all the pentium m and pentium4 use a different signaling voltage for the quad pumped fsb interface iirc, so the adapter is in between the board and cpu and might cause those fsb problems too...

EDIT: did anybody with a dothan on a p4gd1 ever find a similar problem to what im having? a wall at 150fsb and then 165fsb?

If your Celeron D can at least hit 3Ghz (upto 167FSB), then at least you know that FSB at that setting will not be a problem :)...of course, the 2.4C would be best, since it's known to hit 3Ghz without problem (250FSB), so pushing the mobo with this CPU and finding the RAM tweaks, will also prove beneficial for the CPU and PCIe. You can then focus (and easily isolate) if Dothan/Banias or even PCIe is the cuplrit for some OC wall :)..
12-06-2005, 08:43 PM
Kainthelongshot

Newb question

I'm currently running a 3.0ghz northwood with an intel board (no overclocking :( ). Tried and True this chip hasn't let me down. Granted I have yet to attempt to overclock it, I'd like to once I get this board comes in the mail.

To start, do I have to do anything "special" to get this board working with my northwood. All this flashing bios stuff has got me a bit curious. I assume the first thing I want to do is flash to 1006?

the vdimm mods in the first page. . . . is that neccessary to overclock this board? I've never attempted an overclock but hope this will be a learning experience when I get my comp set up. This will probably be my biggest upgrade task (changing a complete mobo out). Any way someone out there can write a quick and dirty step by step guide on how to start overclocking . . . software to install first, adjust setting a, then b, etc. any specific tolerances i need to look for?

All these are really noob questions but i'm will to take some flak for being a novice if it means i get to learn something. Any help would be appreciated.

Btw Saaya and Cirthix are awesome for arranging all this. My hat's off to you guys, well done!

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