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11-03-2005, 12:37 PM
Cybercat

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Originally Posted by ahmad

My guess is, ATI will still hold the WR for 3dmark with the x1800 cards (judging from OCs people have on a 7800GTX now, it won't break 11k).

Gorod - 11442 - Venice 3.1GHz | 7800GTX , BFG , Single , 649/1622 | Watercooled , Voltmoded

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11-03-2005, 12:41 PM
perkam

The 1.1ns ram will rip through 05. depending upon how well the gpu can balance the equation...but no one seems to be worrying about the fact that the card will be set to different speeds depending upon whether its in 3d or 2d...

Perkam
11-03-2005, 12:47 PM
Cooper

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

The 1.1ns ram will rip through 05. depending upon how well the gpu can balance the equation...but no one seems to be worrying about the fact that the card will be set to different speeds depending upon whether its in 3d or 2d...

Perkam

I thought this different frequencies are usual these days :)
11-03-2005, 12:47 PM
Hicks

Sweet.

If i can get one for around £400, i might have to sell my GTX, though i do game at 480/1350 with it, will this 512mb card be worth it?

I play all the games, COD2, FEAR, Quake 4, with a 19" CRT, i game at 1600x1200 85hz. Can;t use AA/AF in FEAR, and not much in Quake 4. Bit disapointed by my performance TBH with you. if this card is 20fps better, i might have to get it. SLI doesn't really appeal to me that much, plus my mobo isn't SLI, god knows my i didn't get the SLI one.
11-03-2005, 12:53 PM
Starscream

nvidia si doing 2D and 3D speeds for a good while now.
11-03-2005, 01:03 PM
Tim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hicks

Sweet.

If i can get one for around £400, i might have to sell my GTX, though i do game at 480/1350 with it, will this 512mb card be worth it?

I play all the games, COD2, FEAR, Quake 4, with a 19" CRT, i game at 1600x1200 85hz. Can;t use AA/AF in FEAR, and not much in Quake 4. Bit disapointed by my performance TBH with you. if this card is 20fps better, i might have to get it. SLI doesn't really appeal to me that much, plus my mobo isn't SLI, god knows my i didn't get the SLI one.

I'd say just wait till the reviews :)

You know what is a scary thought....they might do it all over again in Q1 on 90nm...but then 32pipes...because we still haven't seen that card yet..those rumours came from somewhere mind you....we won't see it on this card...
11-03-2005, 01:41 PM
ahmad

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim

That is the most retarded post I've read in a long time...not only is it clear from your previous posts that you wouldn't even consider having a different colored card in your system (thus limiting your choice to one manufacturer...silly)....but now you are a sour loser too.... :nono: :fact:

I see what suits my needs and I buy. I want something to play with without requiring vmods etc. Thats why I chose what I chose. Sour loser? What the heck have I lost or won? Its funny how you are getting personal with your nvidia fanisim. I am saying what I think, you say what you think.

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No need...ATI owners have to wait till Decemberish to get Crossfire...thus all WR's will be with nVidia...sure single card maybe not. But nVidia got them on all fronts....fact.

Crossfire should be available sometime in mid november (some saying even earlier).

Sure its setting higher standards, but its really nothing new. These cards will still fail MS DCT tests for example... LOL. I like new tech and I like innovation. What nvidia is doing is overclocking. Good for the market, but unimpressive to me. I was unimpressed with ATI's 9800XT back in the day when it hit because of this.
11-03-2005, 02:09 PM
Cybercat

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahmad

These cards will still fail MS DCT tests for example... LOL.

If NVIDIA really failed, you wouldn't see any WHQL drivers from them. This subject has been covered thoroughly in the past, but since it's quite obvious you weren't around when that happened, I suggest you do some more searches on the subject.
11-03-2005, 02:22 PM
Piotrsama

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim

You know what is a scary thought....they might do it all over again in Q1 on 90nm...but then 32pipes...

Hey, hey!!
Slow down, Nvidia will have 90nm parts in Q1, that's a fact. But, they will release their new mid-range at Q1.... for high-end they will need time to master the process....
So give them 6 months from now for new high-end parts.... ;)
11-03-2005, 02:40 PM
Ubermann

"but then 32pipes" that is a hope not a fact.
11-03-2005, 03:00 PM
Tim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ubermann

"but then 32pipes" that is a hope not a fact.

D'oh.... :p:
11-03-2005, 03:01 PM
DilTech

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahmad

I see what suits my needs and I buy. I want something to play with without requiring vmods etc. Thats why I chose what I chose. Sour loser? What the heck have I lost or won? Its funny how you are getting personal with your nvidia fanisim. I am saying what I think, you say what you think.

Crossfire should be available sometime in mid november (some saying even earlier).

Sure its setting higher standards, but its really nothing new. These cards will still fail MS DCT tests for example... LOL. I like new tech and I like innovation. What nvidia is doing is overclocking. Good for the market, but unimpressive to me. I was unimpressed with ATI's 9800XT back in the day when it hit because of this.

Cross-Fire master cards for the x1800xt aren't slated for release until december IIRC...

It's been explained on the DCT test, NVidia are fully capable of all functions required for SM3 and then some. Flamebait removed - Perkam

You wouldn't consider using un-tapped 1.1ns ram new tech? That, my friend, IS new tech.

The core is clocked higher, so has EVERY refresh since the dawn of videocard refreshes. The 7800gtx was the new tech, this card is the improvement... If you care to get technical, the x800xt wasn't new tech, neither was the x850xt, or the 9800pro, or the 9800xt... They were all based off the 9700pro with minor improvements(slightly optimized shaders/more pipes added) in every case.

Now, is it really neccessary to needlessly bash a card, one that will UNDOUBTFULLY be the BEST card on the market, hands down?
11-03-2005, 07:24 PM
Der_KHAN

ok, here's what i think. this whole 1800mhz ram stuff was a little optimistic and this XFX is some extreme edition like the 256mb GTX at 490/1300mhz

i say the plain 512MB cards are gonna run 550/1500-1600mhz

taking bets now :D
11-03-2005, 07:39 PM
saaya

wonder whats ati is gonna do now :eek:
11-03-2005, 07:59 PM
Stumpjumper5200

This guy says it all!!! -------> :banana:

Two of those watercooled in SLI. That's just an absolutely insane amount of power. If DFI keeps taking forever on that SLI-DR Expert, I may never even get a chance to touch my 7800GT :)
11-03-2005, 08:20 PM
Pinnacle

What a beauty!! I would definatley trade my girlfriend in for that. Hell, she costs me more in 2 months then this card will ever retail for.
11-03-2005, 08:28 PM
Sentential

Just to add a new perspective but I am hoping this new "G71-ish" Ultra they are about to put out will finally put pressure on ATi to release the R580 sooner than expected.

Its been said that the R580 is working fine and was not done by the team who botched the R520. Hopefully ATi can pull the 32pipe R580 very soon, otherwise there's gonna be a slaughter worse than Ive ever seen. Im sure the nVidia guys are getting payback for the FX fiasco and are enjoying every moment of it.

On a technical end ATi may have won but their poor designs bit them in the ass. You'd think that after netburst people would finally get the picture. Higher fill-rates and clocks are *not* what work. It may in the short term but one day its gonna rear its ugly head and it will not be pretty.

I think they have pushed the R300 design way too far and they need to find a more efficient structure because clearly they cant get the cards to scale at all, much less with the full pipelines.

The NV40 core is also on its way out as well. It has maybe one more die shrink left before they are going to be forced to re-design it (based off of clocks and heat loads) from the ground up just like ATi will be forced to do after the R580
11-03-2005, 08:31 PM
RAMMAN

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

What a beauty!! I would definatley trade my girlfriend in for that. Hell, she costs me more in 2 months then this card will ever retail for.

youd better hope she doesnt read these forums in her spare time :D .
11-03-2005, 09:12 PM
Pinnacle

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Originally Posted by RAMMAN

youd better hope she doesnt read these forums in her spare time :D .

nah, shes a party animal
11-03-2005, 09:20 PM
ahmad

You think I am an ATI fan? I like both nvidia and ATI and I have recommended Nvidia and ATI equally. I am saying what I think: sure its the fastest card, but I would never buy it. For one, it will be over priced, and 2, it doesn't impress me. Period.

Flamebait removed - Perkam
11-03-2005, 09:48 PM
SnipingWaste

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentential

Just to add a new perspective but I am hoping this new "G71-ish" Ultra they are about to put out will finally put pressure on ATi to release the R580 sooner than expected.

Its been said that the R580 is working fine and was not done by the team who botched the R520. Hopefully ATi can pull the 32pipe R580 very soon, otherwise there's gonna be a slaughter worse than Ive ever seen. Im sure the nVidia guys are getting payback for the FX fiasco and are enjoying every moment of it.

On a technical end ATi may have won but their poor designs bit them in the ass. You'd think that after netburst people would finally get the picture. Higher fill-rates and clocks are *not* what work. It may in the short term but one day its gonna rear its ugly head and it will not be pretty.

I think they have pushed the R300 design way too far and they need to find a more efficient structure because clearly they cant get the cards to scale at all, much less with the full pipelines.

The NV40 core is also on its way out as well. It has maybe one more die shrink left before they are going to be forced to re-design it (based off of clocks and heat loads) from the ground up just like ATi will be forced to do after the R580

I don't think the R580 is a 32 pipeline core but a 16 pipeline with 48 ROPs. Think of it as a 4 RV530s put to gether ( RV530 is a 4 pipeline with 12 ROPs).
11-03-2005, 09:54 PM
SnipingWaste

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahmad

You think I am an ATI fan? I like both nvidia and ATI and I have recommended Nvidia and ATI equally. I am saying what I think: sure its the fastest card, but I would never buy it. For one, it will be over priced, and 2, it doesn't impress me. Period.

But of course, nvidiots will be nvidiots. Heck, I bet you even bought an FX card just to show your support :p:

Flamebait removed - Perkam
11-03-2005, 09:56 PM
JuanFlaiter

Hope Shamie gets a couple of these and kicks some arses xD
11-03-2005, 10:47 PM
Vapor

In the FS section or on eBay :D

The 'garbage can' that gives back ;)

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