Like everyone else says, dividers do not kill performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by B5I8
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Like everyone else says, dividers do not kill performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by B5I8
some things are easy to figure out though. the last letter is obviously the core revision:Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
xxxxC = rev C0 or CG
xxxxD = rev D
xxxxE = rev E
it's getting beyond that's hard. it seems that the 2nd to last letter has something to do with the type of transistors, like how the CABNE's run so much hotter and oc better than CABGE's, thus it's probably a batch with more "fast" transistors.
beyond that... no idea.
As others have said to B518, use a divider. It does NOT hurt performance at all and it will get u the exact mem speed you want. I have noticed that dividers actually hit mem speeds that would be equivalent to ur same cpu mhz times a higher multi if that makes any sense. granted its not exact, but within a few mhz on the mem frequency.
Hmmm....that pic is kinda odd. First off - why would it saw "www.amd.com" on the top if it truly was an "AMD CONFIDENTIAL DOCUMENT". AFAIK, amd doesn't put ANY of their confidential internal documents online. Secondly, note the AMD 64 2800+ listed on the sheet. Now the last time I checked, the 2800+ was a s754 only cpu which was being phased out.....so does that mean the 3000+ and the 3200+ on that list are s754 or s939? Surely a listing such as this should differentiate between s939 and s754 cpu's, right? On a side note, if multipliers is what B518 is looking for in an x2, then the 5000+ IS your cpu. Currently in the works, it's going to be released as a 13x200 dual core monster. That's basically two cores running the same speed as an FX55 on one die :slobber: And let's just put an end to this argument about dividers......the best performance does NOT come at a 1:1 divider. In fact, it happens when you run dividers which UPCLOCK your memory ;) . For example, this is the 7/6 divider: My FSB @ 273, my memory @ 300 (Please excuse the crappy memory timings :p: ):Quote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
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i take it i'm not gonna get any help with my theory then? ;)
Not if those models were not in production in 939, they wouldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
I never said it was true, not my info, but merely something to ponder...
there is no such thing as 1:1 as the ram can't operate at cpu speed even if cpu is at stock on lowest multi with the fsb on 200 or in this case htt
Last letter a complete revision of the mask set - other letters indicate changes in individual or a few masks layers at different stages of the doping process.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
The changes you mention in recent revisions is likely on the final masks when the metallisation layers are added involving the interconnects tieing the transistors etc together.
hold on a second, 3.0ghz?
thats 200mhz off my p4 northy :eek:
crist how much do you think one of these cpu's would own my cpu?
double the preformance? methinks i need to upgrade soon. :)
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Originally Posted by 3NZ0
Thats what so great. We all have known about the Mhz gap between AMD and Intel and respected the performance associated with that gap due to IPC. With a 3Ghz part, AMD is @ 3ghz and Intel is all of.. 3.8Ghz with Presshot? A beautifal thing to behold.
wow, now there is no reason whatsoever to go to intel.
sempron>smeleron
low end 939/mid end 754>skt 478
high end 939>extreme chips
x2>smithfield
pwnteron>inert gas (xeon)
well im not sure about the turion over the dothan but im sure its a good as it power wise (maby not power efficancy)
Xactly why I sold some stuff downgraded my p4 to stock air and switched to a opteron. AMD is very solid investment imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by LexDiamonds
ETA is Feb 06?
What do you guys think MSRP will be $1.1k or what?
I am building a gaming rig in 2weeks going with a FX-57 and a chilly1 modded vapo cant really wait 3months I gotta play some BF2/WoW
The Turion performs very well..... just check this:Quote:
Originally Posted by 3NZ0
http://www.laptoplogic.com/resources/articles/42/1/1/
That's at least even, but I think it's a victory for Turion.
good explaination, thanks! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by OC Detective
now it's time to think about this a bit more ;)
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Originally Posted by Dumo
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At what CPU is AMD planning to switch to 65nm? 5000+? Will Intel having 65nm and AMD still having 90 make a difference in the benchmarks a lot?
No it shouldn't. The only thing is that thier 65nm chips are supposed to be new architectures. So that would make a difference, also they should run cooler and overclock higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanuck
Lately, a few FX57 0512 oems turn up for sale.....Imo, it was the first FX57 core on production...
Will try to get one :)
You're right - it was the first "real" FX57 in production (hehehe- my "FX56" is a week 11). But why would you want one of those? You'd be better off getting the 0513 FX57 (which you've already had, iirc). Sampsa had an 0512 that he complained didn't clock too well. Then again, I think Shamino was the first to 4.0G with a 0512 FX57.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Also, if I'm not mistaken Kinc ran it @ 3.9G in 3Dmarks.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
0512 and 0522 are the only FX57 oems..
0511/0512 and 0522 are with 'T' whreas all 0513 and up is an 'N'...Its must be something with these letters...
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YGPM ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
How about "T" w/out cold bug @-99C which I hope will happen to FX59/60 :)
did he come up with something?Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Any news about FX59 release date ? :D
I am thinking to buy FX57 from NewEgg if theres no FX59 in AMD roadmaps anymore , i just dont want Dual Core FX60 (only 2.6GHz :stick: ) if thats what they want to Call an FX :nono: :slapass:
How about those new week FX57's (probably thats what i am gonna get if i order one from newegg now :rolleyes: ) - are they cold bugged badly :( ?
I was planing to use DI + MousePot with it :)
Plz , help me decide is it wort it to get a new week FX57 now , or wait for FX59 if its going to come out any time soon , or may be i am waiting for something that will never come out lol ? I am confused now :confused: :D