Genuine Intel(R) CPU 6.00GHz (ES) WTF? Please help...

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08-24-2005, 11:03 AM
StrikeRTM

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Originally Posted by toledo

That is the price without the 60x multi :D

That is the price without the Engeneering sample, wich could mean more than 60x multi ;).
08-24-2005, 11:20 AM
AD916

The Latency test from CPU-Z most likely has a bug...Ive been benchmarking it last night and I am pretty sure it does NOT have the 4MB L3 Cache.
I havent been able to duplicate that same result. One instance it actually detected L4 cache???? Ive been getting either 1mb L2 or 1MB L3 and it fluctuates...I dont know...Its definatly a wierd CPU.

Ill post the benches tonite when I get off work.
08-24-2005, 11:28 AM
toledo

Quote:

Originally Posted by AD916

The Latency test from CPU-Z most likely has a bug...Ive been benchmarking it last night and I am pretty sure it does NOT have the 4MB L3 Cache.
I havent been able to duplicate that same result. One instance it actually detected L4 cache???? Ive been getting either 1mb L2 or 1MB L3 and it fluctuates...I dont know...Its definatly a wierd CPU.

Ill post the benches tonite when I get off work.

Have you tried to contact the Intel tech support ? Ask then what a heck is that cpu , maybe they have some software to identify it correctly .
08-24-2005, 12:02 PM
StrikeRTM

Wasnt there a law about non-Intel pearsons having these Engeneering Sample CPU's = not allowed. They could just take the CPU away :confused: .

Becides that...how do ES CPU's get out from Intel labs and to buyer's anyway? They are supposed to be not for sale... :rolleyes:
08-24-2005, 12:36 PM
ibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrikeRTM

Wasnt there a law about non-Intel pearsons having these Engeneering Sample CPU's = not allowed. They could just take the CPU away :confused: .

Becides that...how do ES CPU's get out from Intel labs and to buyer's anyway? They are supposed to be not for sale... :rolleyes:

does it matter :confused:

lets just talk about the processor. :fact:
08-24-2005, 12:53 PM
masterofpuppets

Xtremely odd. Send it to me :) I have adequate cooling to run it at it's supposed "stock" :D
08-24-2005, 01:09 PM
[XC] leviathan18

send it to BBmod or Fugger they hace the cooling and mobos to put that cpu under serious OC or maybe stock lol.... 6.0ghz 4mb cache 478 damn weird cpu 64bits??? quite strange
08-24-2005, 02:04 PM
sin0822

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrikeRTM

Wasnt there a law about non-Intel pearsons having these Engeneering Sample CPU's = not allowed. They could just take the CPU away :confused: .

Becides that...how do ES CPU's get out from Intel labs and to buyer's anyway? They are supposed to be not for sale... :rolleyes:

Wow someone isnt upto date, go on ebayyoull see a couple ESs, Intel doesnt really give a damn.
08-24-2005, 02:15 PM
Reflex1

im really dying to know wth this cpu is ...you really gotta test it out! or sell it to someone who can. :D
08-24-2005, 02:17 PM
StrikeRTM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sin0822

Wow someone isnt upto date, go on ebayyoull see a couple ESs, Intel doesnt really give a damn.

Well I didnt meanshon anything about Intel giving or not giving a damn thing about it. I just said there is a law about it...becides, it doesnt work in every country...that law i mean. :)

Under what kayword are you searching, I have had no luck finding them :(.

But 64Bit on s478...no that can't be right...maybe it could be tested...though I'm doubtfull about those 64bits...
08-24-2005, 02:58 PM
aja

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrikeRTM

Wasnt there a law about non-Intel pearsons having these Engeneering Sample CPU's = not allowed. They could just take the CPU away :confused: .

Becides that...how do ES CPU's get out from Intel labs and to buyer's anyway? They are supposed to be not for sale... :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by intel website

Engineering sample processors are available to those who qualify for, and obtain, a non-disclosure agreement (NDA). An Intel® Authorized Distributor can assist with the application to obtain an NDA. There are no other means to obtain sample processors from Intel Customer Support. Engineering sample processors are designed and built like normal processors, but offer additional features for testing purposes. These processors are not packaged or labeled for sale to consumers, and may incur damage when tested by system builders. To determine if a processor is an engineering sample, refer to the processor markings. The q-spec (a four-digit or five-digit code) will begin with the letter 'Q' instead of the standard letter 'S' which is used for production processors.

Engineering samples are not supported by Intel Customer Support and are not eligible for warranty service.

If you have received an engineering sample processor from a vendor, and you would like a production processor, contact your vendor for replacement information.

relatively easy to obtain if you know a distributor well enough to ask for favours.....

oh, and there is an IDENTIFICATION UTILITY here supported and written by intel, try it and see what it has to say about this cpu.......there is a bootable version, see if that helps bec ause it should bypass any software screwing things up.....maybe get hold of an intel s478 server mobo and see what it has to say? that's what id do :p:
08-24-2005, 03:05 PM
sin0822

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrikeRTM

Well I didnt meanshon anything about Intel giving or not giving a damn thing about it. I just said there is a law about it...becides, it doesnt work in every country...that law i mean. :)

Under what kayword are you searching, I have had no luck finding them :(.

But 64Bit on s478...no that can't be right...maybe it could be tested...though I'm doubtfull about those 64bits...

There is not law saying you cant specifically own an intel ES chip, just a theft laws, they are intels property and as so yes teft laws apply to people who sell them. Its kinda like how the US government owns your money.
08-24-2005, 03:15 PM
Charles Wirth

3.2EE E0 prescott core (semi rare) on 661FX chipset does wierd things.

It was a prospect from 200~266FSB on E0 that was soon after switched to N0 core with 2MB L2 cache.

This was not a galatin core EE A0 or A1

Some of the confusion is 661FX chipset.

P4C800 mobo should work fine and you should have an 8x multiple.

One thing that should stand out is that this chip is a socket 478.
08-24-2005, 03:39 PM
SamHughe

This is how my gallatin looks like.

http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?i...tin3mq.th.jpg]

It looks little different I guess.

Sam
08-24-2005, 07:43 PM
skycrane

so,... 250 x 60 = .....

hold on a min, im counting on my fingers....

... 15Ghz :)

now if we could just get to work and bench
08-24-2005, 11:28 PM
sokarul

At 1 degree above absolute zero anything is possible.
08-25-2005, 12:24 AM
cirthix

http://www.origo3d.com/xpspacer/P4EE-3.jpg
that cpu doesnt look like a gellatin core cpu... or at least the surface mount stuff on the bottom doesnt look the same.
08-25-2005, 12:55 AM
WaltS_2

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirthix

http://www.origo3d.com/xpspacer/P4EE-3.jpg
that cpu doesnt look like a gellatin core cpu... or at least the surface mount stuff on the bottom doesnt look the same.

It isn't a Gallatin core. Fugger said it was a prescott based EE.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FUGGER

3.2EE E0 prescott core (semi rare) on 661FX chipset does wierd things.

It was a prospect from 200~266FSB on E0 that was soon after switched to N0 core with 2MB L2 cache.

This was not a galatin core EE A0 or A1.
08-25-2005, 01:49 AM
wwwww

Quote:

Originally Posted by sokarul

At 1 degree above absolute zero anything is possible.

Why 1 degree above?
08-25-2005, 02:01 AM
don_vercetti

because at absolute zero nothing can move. It is motionless, therefore i doubt the electrons could do much. 1 degree above is just amazingly cold though.
08-25-2005, 01:00 PM
sin0822

Quote:

Originally Posted by don_vercetti

because at absolute zero nothing can move. It is motionless, therefore i doubt the electrons could do much. 1 degree above is just amazingly cold though.

Still a theory, no one has hit 0k
08-25-2005, 01:23 PM
wwwww

Quote:

Originally Posted by don_vercetti

because at absolute zero nothing can move. It is motionless, therefore i doubt the electrons could do much. 1 degree above is just amazingly cold though.

oh yeah, my bad - meh high school physics - memory's not that good :P
08-25-2005, 02:19 PM
StrikeRTM

I've heard of a special way where crystal structure changes and at such a state the procesor could run @ twice as high frequencies. Is that what you are talking about? :)
08-25-2005, 03:47 PM
vegeta

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrikeRTM

I've heard of a special way where crystal structure changes and at such a state the procesor could run @ twice as high frequencies. Is that what you are talking about? :)

SuperConductors?

If so, no weren't talking about that :)
Although the one is abit related to the other.
Every superconductor has it's own Tc (=critical temperature = temp where the resistance go 0Ohm). Some of their Tc's are nearly 0K (thought it was quicksilver). And that kind a cooling is quite expensive :D

However, a nice theory but still all the current available CPU's are still SemiConductors
:p:
08-25-2005, 10:47 PM
wwwww

When semi-conductors reach 0K they enter a ground state to which they have no electrons in the conduction band.

I've heard of basic cpus made from superconductors. Was wondering though, couldn't you theoretically reach an infinite speed, as they won't be consuming power since 0 resistance.

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