Printable View
Just ran 3D05 with my X800XT clocked up to X850XTPE and scored 6592, cat 5.6 drivers, so the G70 is roughly 1200 points ahead of ATI's current flagship card, not hugely impressive, although it does take a fair ammount of extra power to get 1200 extra marks in 05. Still, I cant say I'd be prepared to sell my X800XT to get 1, and (probably) lose a fair ammount of cash in the process. Of course drivers will hopefully improve that score a bit, and if they do, I'd be more inclined to upgrade.
It's odd to me that there arn't very many people impressed.
We have Macci's single card World record score of 9500 something which was done on LN2.
Now we have this G70 which looks to me that it could be pretty close to Macci's score, only the G70 can do it on stock air cooling, in the right hands.
That seems pretty good to me.
OPP
Faster in what? 1 synthetic benchmark that runed on low graph qulaity , low res and with no AA and litle AF. You realize that these cards are made to play games. Noone plays games on settings we benchmark. Once you enable all the graphic features and up the resolution it's a big question who is faster. And remeber unlike ATI driver support ,Nvidia does optimize they drivers for games so performance between 2 is almost same. Sure Nvidia beats ATI in some games and ATi whoops then in other.Quote:
Hmm, the ATi still won 3 of 4 benches ... I don't think it really matters what your 'ratio' or 'effeciency' is ... what it all comes down to is which one is faster
Faster is not realy a good term here. Let's have a GLMark and see who is faster there :nono:
same here gamer, my fx-55 0.13n still be with me :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gamer
Perkam stated that crossfire was more efficient, I proved him wrong, so it does matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by LilGator
you have a good point there, but they talked so much about how good their g70 would be that they created false expectatives (maybe we were to optimistic).Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
if im not mistaken ati said r520 would double an x850xt so if that's right give 6k in 3dmar05 to x850xt default, and you have 12k 3dmark05 for the r520 on stock :) thats what ati said
If the price is about right, then it seems like a nice card to me. 9K on stock cooling is really nice. (even if it was with an fx 57 at 2,9).
Like everyone i'm looking forward to seeing R520, my guess is it'll score 8,5k in 05. If ATi is going to do what i suspect they will do is just make the card good enough to beat nvidia with a nice margin.
I'm actually more interested about performance with AA & AF. The reason I would buy one of the cards is for gaming with highest image quality possible at reasonable FPS rates.
This is all very interesting, indeed nvidia did well to release the new 7800gtx SLI in time for ATI's crossfire. I foresee that Shamino will break 16k with it.
Iam not quite up to date with the new nvidia cards.. is 7800GTX the best card in the new series?
if the GTX is not their top of the line card... does that mean it would go for sale at $399 USD? So in other words, the GTX will replace the 6800GT? If i'm right... I cannot wait until i have lots of money to buy new stuff :)
7800 Ultra @ $499?
7800 GTX @ $399?
7800 plain @ $299?
2x plain 7800 could be nice...
this is competition is good though, it feels like it's been awhile since the companies were so close with each other
now i am very anxious to see what the r520 scores
from my understanding it is not...Quote:
Originally Posted by dpa
Is this new series AGP/PCI-E? I don't see reason from going NF3 > NF4 yet.
If the 7800GTX is not the top of the line card in the G70 series, why in the hell are we comparing it to the top of the line ATi card? The fact that it beats it by a fair margin, says good things about what to expect from the faster cards using the G70. Other things to look at are the lower power consumption, 100-110W, which is lower than what the 6600GT uses at idle. Also the new process, 90nm, should allow for higher overclocks and lower temps. At least theoretically...
The 7800GTX will be the top card, then the 7800GT, then the 7800.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
where does the Ultra fit in then? Surely nvidia won't kill such a good marketing tool. They've had the ultra name since the geforce2
They've said that GTX is the new name for Ultra.
Notice the 6600 series didn't have one...they don't cherish it that much.
Also, should the need ever come up, I'm sure they could come out with an Ultra based off the fact that these clock up to 500MHz on the stock cooler. In such instance where the X900 initially only has 24 pipes but beats out the GTX only slightly, they could make an Ultra and then a 7900 series to compete with the 32 pipe version.
But for now the top dog is the GTX.
*Drumroll* I agree with you Perkam.Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
for once
:D
kool stuff i was hopefull when i saw the 7800 for 299. Any specs on the 7800?
I think this is actually very good, especially seeing as R520 is quite a ways away... Now if nVidia's smart, they could release a 7800 Ultra that would beat a R520. nVidia has a time advantage here, now all they need to do is use it wisely.
Usama aka Ferrari Freak
do you think the 7800GTX has unlockable pipes?
i hope not. hope they don't physically sever the pipes with lasers.
Well I think they like the letter "X".Quote:
Originally Posted by b0bd0le
I'm guessing this stands for Xtreme, just like some memory and Websites I know of;)
See what we started:D
Everbody uses "X"treme these days.
I think Frank from XR came up with that one, "Xtreme Tek Werkz"
OPP
From what I've read the consensus is that nVidia is saving the Ultra name for a 32 pipe X900XTPE beater. Probably to be released after the R520 drops, and I think that will be an interesting battle, I like ATI, but these are not bad cards and will be hard to beat.
At this rate graphics cards are going to be releases slower and slower beacuse everyone wants to wait for the other guy.
Quote:
Originally Posted by b0bd0le
thats not even close to real prices i think.
top of the line (officialy) is the 7800gtx.
the 2 ways i believe nvidia could beat ati:
1 lower prices (in a price/performance ratio)
2 availability
one interesting thing is that the ati mobos are supposed to be cheaper that nf4 sli or normal nf4 so you have to take that into the equation (if you wanna go sli or crossfire)
well really before the R520 comes out NVIDIA can charge whatever they want for their top end card. But when it releases, NVIDIA is going to have to substantially lower the price on it. By then ATI will know what they need to run their card at to beat NVIDIA's, and it won't take much considering the very modest clockspeeds.Quote:
Originally Posted by metro_oc.cl