FX57 with cold bug or Dothan @ -100C

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06-13-2005, 04:19 AM
QuadDamage

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie

Dave,
You need a Dothan, on one of your "set to kill" cascades, it will CRUSH any FX...

C

won't happen. The FX-57 will crush any Dothan.
06-13-2005, 04:32 AM
joe2004

And where is this Dothan available? Which destop motherboard to go with?
Or is this only a science fiction? :D
06-13-2005, 04:45 AM
alexio

I'm gonna email AMD about the cold bug. Atleast we have to know what the problem is. An internal tempsensor freaking out can be solved you know, if you know what pin it uses.

What about a coldbug thread in the AMD section? With a database of 90nm cpu's on different board wih information about what temperature they start to have the coldbug ? Good idea ?
06-13-2005, 04:54 AM
kiwi

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe2004

And where is this Dothan available? Which destop motherboard to go with?
Or is this only a science fiction? :D

For example, Asus P4C800-E deluxe or P4P800-... support dothan with a special adapter :)
06-13-2005, 05:23 AM
Hombre

Dothan > X2 > FX57.
Personally I'm gonna get an X2 + DFI Xpress200 + AMR based rig.
06-13-2005, 05:31 AM
Ailleur

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hombre

Dothan > X2 > FX57.
Personally I'm gonna get an X2 + DFI Xpress200 + AMR based rig.

That makes sense, why get the fastest cpu when you can get the second fastest, for more money!
06-13-2005, 05:48 AM
LBJGH

For you charlie I'm sure the Dothan is the best option but 99% of everyone else would have better luck with either AMD cpu. :)
06-13-2005, 05:52 AM
funkflix

Voted for Dothan.... But never want to get one, amd is my way. :)
06-13-2005, 09:28 AM
Geforce4ti4200

I place my vote on fx57 because im an amd fan and because the fx is dual channel and has a great ondie controller. Dothan has 2mb cache but amd just has better technology. Cold bug isnt much of a problem, people should still get over 3.5GHz on fx57 with single stage
06-13-2005, 10:12 AM
^don.k's^

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200

I place my vote on fx57 because im an amd fan and because the fx is dual channel and has a great ondie controller. Dothan has 2mb cache but amd just has better technology. Cold bug isnt much of a problem, people should still get over 3.5GHz on fx57 with single stage

Yes, as great that is uncapable of manage 4 double sidded dimm's @ddr400 1T :D :p:

:toast:

PS: BTW, i'd like to have a FX 57 :banana:
06-13-2005, 10:18 AM
ashish_mohanty

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ailleur

That makes sense, why get the fastest cpu when you can get the second fastest, for more money!

LOL
:lol: :fight: :rofl: :ROTF:
06-13-2005, 10:38 AM
LenniZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200

I place my vote on fx57 because im an amd fan and because the fx is dual channel and has a great ondie controller. Dothan has 2mb cache but amd just has better technology. Cold bug isnt much of a problem, people should still get over 3.5GHz on fx57 with single stage

Dothan is also dual channel :fact:
06-13-2005, 10:55 AM
trance565

Quote:

Originally Posted by ^don.k's^

Yes, as great that is uncapable of manage 4 double sidded dimm's @ddr400 1T :D :p:

:toast:

PS: BTW, i'd like to have a FX 57 :banana:

i believe somone in the thread already stated that it CAN handle 4 double sided dimms @ 1t

Quote:

Originally Posted by moddolicous

The FX will get my vote if
1) it has no cold bug 2) is below $500 3) can handle 4*512double sided ram 1t. Until then, no vote. BTW Charlie, why dont u use your redline with your dothan.
06-13-2005, 11:08 AM
^don.k's^

Quote:

Originally Posted by trance565

i believe somone in the thread already stated that it CAN handle 4 double sided dimms @ 1t

Quote:

Originally Posted by moddolicous

The FX will get my vote if
1) it has no cold bug 2) is below $500 3) can handle 4*512double sided ram 1t. Until then, no vote. BTW Charlie, why dont u use your redline with your dothan.

That are conditions that doesn't are the reality ATM ;) :toast:
06-13-2005, 11:09 AM
Ailleur

Quote:

Originally Posted by trance565

i believe somone in the thread already stated that it CAN handle 4 double sided dimms @ 1t

Maybe you should read what you quote, he said IF it has all of those features.

Fx57 being less than 500$ is laughable, my guess is 1050$.
06-13-2005, 12:08 PM
DilTech

You say the dothan is cheaper... However, when you look at the poll, and apply the COOLING you're talking about on the dothan, the FX-57 would be cheaper. Not only that, but you'd be able to put the FX-57 rig IN A CASE AND RUN IT 24/7!

Also, look at it this way, the 90nm FX-55 are hitting 3 ghz on air stably... The fx-57 will likely see 3.1 - 3.2 on air. That WOULD own a dothan on single stage phase. This, technically, makes the FX-57 still cheaper, now doesn't it.

I can easily see FX-57's doing 3.5 - 3.7 on single stage. Also, charlie, if SD's are booting up to -80, why would the FX-57 stop at negative 30? It's more likely 60 - 90.

This is why they say it's a biased poll...

Finally, due to the platform, the only win the Dothan could really pull is Super-pi 1m. ALL 3dtests will be taken by the A64 platform due to the ability to run dual cards, bandwidth benches will be taken by A64 due to dothan lacking there, and ALL multi-threaded benches will be taken by the X2.... So other than super-pi, what's dothan gonna take?
06-13-2005, 12:50 PM
Ailleur

Quote:

Originally Posted by DilTech

I can easily see FX-57's doing 3.5 - 3.7 on single stage. Also, charlie, if SD's are booting up to -80, why would the FX-57 stop at negative 30? It's more likely 60 - 90.

This is why they say it's a biased poll...

Finally, due to the platform, the only win the Dothan could really pull is Super-pi 1m. ALL 3dtests will be taken by the A64 platform due to the ability to run dual cards, bandwidth benches will be taken by A64 due to dothan lacking there, and ALL multi-threaded benches will be taken by the X2.... So other than super-pi, what's dothan gonna take?

Thats not what the poll is about, i have no problem saying that amd has the best PLATFORM at the moment, hence why im running one but to me, the best cpu is a no brainer, at twice the performance/$ (conservative figure) compared to an fx.

Whether or not intel (or somebody) comes up with a desktop platform for the dothan will dictate what my next buy will be. (it sure wont be an fx, but intel or amd).
06-13-2005, 01:38 PM
dippyskoodlez

Quote:

Originally Posted by ^don.k's^

Yes, as great that is uncapable of manage 4 double sidded dimm's @ddr400 1T :D :p:

:toast:

PS: BTW, i'd like to have a FX 57 :banana:

what does 4x 512mb or more dimms have anything to do with WR's?
:rolleyes:

you arent going to overclock 4x512 or 4x1gb under a cascade, now are you? :nono:

I dont think ANY system would do well running 4x 512 or 4x 1gb no matter the cooling, at the moment.
06-13-2005, 01:52 PM
^don.k's^

Why not? Maybe not so good as a 2x dimms machine but... You have so much capacity... And... DDR2 @4 dimms isn't going well?? :stick:

:toast:
06-13-2005, 01:53 PM
LBJGH

why don't we roll the x2 results into the FX57 and delete the Smithfield Extreme Edition of the radar screen then we'd have a drag race... :slap:
06-13-2005, 01:56 PM
micdoc

dothan :clap:
06-13-2005, 02:08 PM
Cossey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troman

all single cards records...
we have to face it it's a strong contender....

with nvidia saying no to agp cards and r520 unlikely to be available till the autumn then i think the lack of pciexpress isnt going to help the dothan. also the r520 on xtreme cooling might be getting into the realms where the agp bus is limiting it.
06-13-2005, 02:12 PM
Dumo

Quote:

Originally Posted by dippyskoodlez

what does 4x 512mb or more dimms have anything to do with WR's?
:rolleyes:

you arent going to overclock 4x512 or 4x1gb under a cascade, now are you? :nono:

I dont think ANY system would do well running 4x 512 or 4x 1gb no matter the cooling, at the moment.

I do :D
http://img10.echo.cx/img10/7118/fxbn27zs.jpg
06-13-2005, 06:25 PM
dippyskoodlez

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

I do :D
http://img10.echo.cx/img10/7118/fxbn27zs.jpg

not under a -100C cascade :rolleyes: (24/7) 'less you got the $$ for one massive power bill :eek:

charlie was talking WR's. not just "cascade overclocking". hecne.. "FASTEST CPU"

although nice oc :P
06-13-2005, 06:47 PM
UCmajewski

This should've been a poll ...... FX 57

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