Corsair 5400UL & Asus P5WD2 DDR860 4-2-2-2

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05-17-2005, 11:37 AM
The Stilt

:D

Corsair 5400UL @ DDR1134 4-3-3-1 - SuperPI 1M

And that is not even the best one ;)

This time I don´t have to offer a verification url, because I screwed up a bit :slapass: When I was submitting the highest result, it accidentally ticked the publish box and the result was not published. Because results cannot be removed or submitted twice, I have to wait untill CPU-Z author removes or makes the verification url public.

I still got the verification files, so do not worry ;)

P4 660 @ 4830MHz (14x345)
Asus P5WD2 Premium (1.85V Vnorth VDD, 0208 bios, thanks to Soltani)
Corsair 5400UL 1GB TwinX-kit, 2.57V 3:5 DDR 4-3-3-1-4-Turbo
Matrox Millenium II PCI
Mach2 R404, Swifty MCX-159R

The new bios works great, and even the vcore adjustments work now..
Unfortunately SetFSB program doesn´t work, so I´m still very cpu and performance limited (no tweaks, due SetFSB) :hrhr:

Tarmo will return.
05-17-2005, 11:52 AM
Byron

excuse me, but i'm noob with DDR2, can someone explain something, does this Asus mobo have divider for running the memory faster than its actual speed? (3:5 , 3:4 dividers..) cause i've never seen at any other motherboard a divider to run the mem faster at least in DDR1 mobos... so, thought might that be a function that only DDR2 mobos have ? is that correct?

Cheers,
B
05-17-2005, 11:55 AM
nCrusader

3:5 is the ratio between FSB and MEM freq. FSB:MEM
3:5 gives 500MHz on memory if your FSB is 300MHz.
05-17-2005, 11:56 AM
Byron

yes i know that, i just didn't knew that DDR2 mobos have this function..., so far with DDR1 you could use divider to run the memory bellow the CPU FSB.
05-17-2005, 11:57 AM
The Stilt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byron

excuse me, but i'm noob with DDR2, can someone explain something, does this Asus mobo have divider for running the memory faster than its actual speed? (3:5 , 3:4 dividers..) cause i've never seen at any other motherboard a divider to run the mem faster at least in DDR1 mobos... so, thought might that be a function that only DDR2 mobos have ? is that correct?

Cheers,
B

Thats not a DDR2 feature only, even some old 845PE boards like Abit IT72 had it (IIRC). Canterwood and Springdale (8x5P series) can also do the trick. Motherboards capable to it are Asus P4P800-E, Abit IC7, IS7 and AI7 and also Abit AS8 and Asus P5P800 board.
05-18-2005, 04:15 AM
mike

Awesome score! Keep on pushing!

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Stilt

:D

Corsair 5400UL @ DDR1134 4-3-3-1 - SuperPI 1M

And that is not even the best one ;)

This time I don´t have to offer a verification url, because I screwed up a bit :slapass: When I was submitting the highest result, it accidentally ticked the publish box and the result was not published. Because results cannot be removed or submitted twice, I have to wait untill CPU-Z author removes or makes the verification url public.

I still got the verification files, so do not worry ;)

P4 660 @ 4830MHz (14x345)
Asus P5WD2 Premium (1.85V Vnorth VDD, 0208 bios, thanks to Soltani)
Corsair 5400UL 1GB TwinX-kit, 2.57V 3:5 DDR 4-3-3-1-4-Turbo
Matrox Millenium II PCI
Mach2 R404, Swifty MCX-159R

The new bios works great, and even the vcore adjustments work now..
Unfortunately SetFSB program doesn´t work, so I´m still very cpu and performance limited (no tweaks, due SetFSB) :hrhr:

Tarmo will return.
05-18-2005, 04:37 AM
Byron

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Stilt

Thats not a DDR2 feature only, even some old 845PE boards like Abit IT72 had it (IIRC). Canterwood and Springdale (8x5P series) can also do the trick. Motherboards capable to it are Asus P4P800-E, Abit IC7, IS7 and AI7 and also Abit AS8 and Asus P5P800 board.

Cool, thanks for clarifying this ;)
05-18-2005, 04:40 AM
Sentential

The Stilt how in the world are you getting CPUz to read your RAM timings correctally? :confused: On my gigabyte they are purely blank :(
05-18-2005, 06:15 AM
The Stilt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentential

The Stilt how in the world are you getting CPUz to read your RAM timings correctally? :confused: On my gigabyte they are purely blank :(

Timings should be displayed correctly with last version of CPU-Z (1.28.6).
To make ram speed and ratio visible, I had to get "special" (1.28.7) version from CPU-Z Franck.
05-18-2005, 08:42 AM
LarsK

I seem to be hitting a brick wall @ 290 Mhz fsb, cpu is stable well above this, memory also. What settings do you use for pci-e to run above ~300 Mhz fsb, should extra NB cooling be neccessary from 290 and up? Any clues would be more than welcome. Rather stuck @ 290 Mhz fsb and DDR725 atm....
05-18-2005, 10:45 AM
Sentential

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Stilt

Timings should be displayed correctly with last version of CPU-Z (1.28.6).
To make ram speed and ratio visible, I had to get "special" (1.28.7) version from CPU-Z Franck.

Could you PM me his email? I really need him to take a look at the giga. I need to get this working ASAP!
05-18-2005, 11:18 AM
The Stilt

Quote:

Originally Posted by LarsK

I seem to be hitting a brick wall @ 290 Mhz fsb, cpu is stable well above this, memory also. What settings do you use for pci-e to run above ~300 Mhz fsb, should extra NB cooling be neccessary from 290 and up? Any clues would be more than welcome. Rather stuck @ 290 Mhz fsb and DDR725 atm....

I set PCI-E to 101MHz from bios.
I used enhanced NB cooling right from the start.
I used the stock NB heatsink with 40mm fan on it.

With that cooling it ran at 340FSB with 3:4 divider.
05-18-2005, 11:21 AM
Sentential

Quote:

Originally Posted by LarsK

I seem to be hitting a brick wall @ 290 Mhz fsb, cpu is stable well above this, memory also. What settings do you use for pci-e to run above ~300 Mhz fsb, should extra NB cooling be neccessary from 290 and up? Any clues would be more than welcome. Rather stuck @ 290 Mhz fsb and DDR725 atm....

I think your issue is Asus related. I am on the stock cooler, running passive, no fans no nothing on it and mine goes past 300 effortlessly. On the gigabyte there is a max of .35v. With .25 I have managed to get as high as 310 100% stable on the chipset.

The only thing I have done to the chipset was pull the shim and add AS5 to the NB
05-18-2005, 09:25 PM
LarsK

Thanks guys, I'll try the 101 Mhz thing and then look at the NB cooling solution. I've been through several settings this morning and nothing seemed to matter, it just won't even post beyond 290/291. Really odd though as any benchmark is completely stable @ 290.......

Vcore is also funny. Anything from 1.450V-1.16125V gives me ~1.49V actual Vcore, and 1.625-1.700V gives me an actual Vcore of 1.58V.

AI booster shows I'm only getting 2.12V for the Vddr, I'll probably mod the thing over the weekend.
05-19-2005, 12:29 AM
The Stilt

I´m going to receive my MSI P4N board tomorrow, so we will see soon if these sticks will do any better on NF4 IE platform s:D
05-19-2005, 01:29 AM
Sentential

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Stilt

I´m going to receive my MSI P4N board tomorrow, so we will see soon if these sticks will do any better on NF4 IE platform s:D

Dont hold your breath. Ive got a friend who sez that it doesnt have a PCI lock :(
05-19-2005, 01:34 AM
LarsK

Nice The Stilt, looking forward to that.

Well, I found a setfsb program that allowed up to 307.5 Mhz fsb, and booting at 290 I can get to the max 307.5 and at least run superpi 1M without isues. Stock cooling on NB, no mods on mainboard yet either. Getting a score of 26.297s @ ~4920 Mhz on my 640. Highest I tested 3dmark was @ 300 Mhz fsb (4800 Mhz) and it ran without issues. So I'm sure it's just a bios bug or something.

Screenshot of superpi mod 1.4 uploaded here:http://www.hardware-test.dk/oc/bille...id=7913&pic=10

I'm not near your results The Stilt, but it's pretty decent for a non modded board and a 640 cpu IMO. I bet I can get the sucker into the 5 Ghz club with a better bios, or another setfsb version :)
05-19-2005, 01:38 AM
Sentential

Honest to god guys. I dont see why everyone is buying the P5WD2. The gigabyte blows it away. I dont need to use clockgen at all past 300....yet im the only one useing this board? :stick:
05-19-2005, 01:39 AM
Mesce

I got a hell of a lot of problems with my msi p4n diamond. I cant put my finger on it. Wont even run 1:1 at stock.

Not tryin to hijack thread :)
05-19-2005, 01:45 AM
Sentential

The Stilts, just out of curosity what volts are you using for DDR800 with 4-3-3? 2v or so?
05-19-2005, 01:54 AM
The Stilt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentential

The Stilts, just out of curosity what volts are you using for DDR800 with 4-3-3? 2v or so?

Never tried so low speeds with such settings.
These sticks run fine at DDR800 with 2.2V and 3-2-2-1 settings.
05-19-2005, 02:06 AM
Sentential

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Stilt

Never tried so low speeds with such settings.
These sticks run fine at DDR800 with 2.2V and 3-2-2-1 settings.

Fantastic, thankyou much :toast:
05-19-2005, 02:27 AM
The Stilt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentential

Honest to god guys. I dont see why everyone is buying the P5WD2. The gigabyte blows it away. I dont need to use clockgen at all past 300....yet im the only one useing this board? :stick:

That wouldn´t be the exact term that I would use to describe that Gigabyte board ;)

I didn´t use clockgen for that 345FSB run with 3:5 divider ;)
05-19-2005, 02:28 AM
Sentential

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Stilt

That wouldn´t be the exact term that I would use to describe that Gigabyte board ;)

I didn´t use clockgen for that 345FSB run with 4:5 divider ;)

Ah nvm then :banana: I was under the impression that past 280 they started to get awefully shaky in BIOS. My mistake :toast:
05-19-2005, 02:37 AM
abo333

Quote:

Originally Posted by LarsK

Nice The Stilt, looking forward to that.

Well, I found a setfsb program that allowed up to 307.5 Mhz fsb, and booting at 290 I can get to the max 307.5 and at least run superpi 1M without isues. Stock cooling on NB, no mods on mainboard yet either. Getting a score of 26.297s @ ~4920 Mhz on my 640. Highest I tested 3dmark was @ 300 Mhz fsb (4800 Mhz) and it ran without issues. So I'm sure it's just a bios bug or something.

Screenshot of superpi mod 1.4 uploaded here:http://www.hardware-test.dk/oc/bille...id=7913&pic=10

I'm not near your results The Stilt, but it's pretty decent for a non modded board and a 640 cpu IMO. I bet I can get the sucker into the 5 Ghz club with a better bios, or another setfsb version :)

Please check "Ultra" before clicking "Get FSB".
You will be able to try 5Ghz or more.

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