Having fun with Dothan, Socket478 and AGP card

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05-12-2005, 12:59 AM
DrJay

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Originally Posted by Fzero

awsome stuff macci i was wondering how you adjusted the vcore if the option wasnt in the bios thanks

Isn't there was also some kind of program that allows changing of the Vcore in windows?
05-12-2005, 01:09 AM
hipro5

GRATE...... :D

macci couldn't the multies of the CPU be chanched within bios?....
05-12-2005, 01:09 AM
jrw

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Originally Posted by macci

Andy, for a S478 upgrade just get one of these 730 chips and set it to 200x12=2.4GHz for some great gaming performance ;) Should be very doable and given the very low heat output of these chips it will be very silent too.

Im gonna go Dothan. It'll almost be costless for me...

But Im worried about the noise of that adapter stock fan as I would like a sub 20db rig (that would be one of the nice things about getting a Dothan!). Would it be possible to keep the Dothan cool enough at 2/3 speed or even 1/2 speed on that fan?

And, can PAT (or whatever its called on Asus boards) be enabled on 865PE fx. the P4P800SE?

Thanks :)
05-12-2005, 01:44 AM
funkflix

awsome! :slobber: :toast:
05-12-2005, 01:45 AM
macci

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Isn't there was also some kind of program that allows changing of the Vcore in windows?

yes but only for lower Vcore values.

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Originally Posted by hipro5

macci couldn't the multies of the CPU be chanched within bios?....

not with the boards and BIOSes i've tried. But it works from windows (lower multipliers).

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And, can PAT (or whatever its called on Asus boards) be enabled on 865PE fx. the P4P800SE?

yes

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But Im worried about the noise of that adapter stock fan as I would like a sub 20db rig (that would be one of the nice things about getting a Dothan!). Would it be possible to keep the Dothan cool enough at 2/3 speed or even 1/2 speed on that fan?

Running the fan at 7V or even 5V should not be a problem. Dothan TDP is like 27W or so =)
05-12-2005, 01:59 AM
jrw

Excellent!

Im not much of a modder, more of a Booster guy :). Would I be able to go anywhere vcore-wise without the need to mod the P4P800SE?
05-12-2005, 03:54 AM
Malachia

3ghz still liquid cooled??? amazing....i think i am ordering a 730 :D
05-12-2005, 04:43 AM
Rauf

i think we will have a new 3dmark01 record soon with a dothan...
05-12-2005, 05:09 AM
Brandybuck

Dothan is very nice chip :D cong macci :toast: scores are awesome :woot:
05-12-2005, 05:10 AM
Brandybuck

what happens if you apply a ln2 to this cpu :rolleyes:
05-12-2005, 05:30 AM
mtb856

Nice :slobber:
Yet..... this is macci that we're talking about here, and the chip is still under pelt and water? :D

How long before slightly colder substances are used? ;)
05-12-2005, 05:44 AM
setyotomo

wow great results there..

but where to get the CT-479 adapter ?

edit : nevermind, allready found it @ewiz.com & atacom.com
05-12-2005, 07:33 AM
Mathias-K

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Originally Posted by FUGGER

Socket 480 is coming quickly and that has dual core and dual processor with dual core on .065nm dc ddr2 ...

Damn! :eek: Running a rig with four 65nm Pentium-M cores would be ownage in its purest form :D
05-12-2005, 10:30 AM
uclajd

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Originally Posted by macci

I did the Vcore mod (50k VR between those soldering points). This allows up to 1.568V. When combined w/ VID-mod (connect VID4 pin to Vss pin = default voltage 1.568V) even higher voltage can be obtained.

Is this just for the P4Cs? I mean, this doesn't affect the P4P boards, right?
05-12-2005, 10:58 AM
jrw

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Originally Posted by uclajd

Is this just for the P4Cs? I mean, this doesn't affect the P4P boards, right?

Right, it doesn't. According to this test, the P4P800 boards has vcore adjustments up to 1.6!

We need a thread summing up and organising all of this info. Seems as if Dothan overclocking is getting more mainstream...

Apart from that, we need BIOS version with more cpu/dram ratios, giving the possibility to utilize those BH5/UTTs and TCCD we all have laying around without the need to go totally 220+ extreme on the FSB...
05-12-2005, 01:00 PM
some_young_guy

Nice work! now just grab a 6800 Ultra and try to catch Opp and Shamino in 3Dmark 03. :)
05-12-2005, 01:42 PM
Crow

I think he will catch them...

I believe chilly told me that those dothans can run without a heatsink and not get to hot in temp...so even being passive cooled they will run very cool.
05-12-2005, 02:47 PM
uclajd

Sweet. Just bought one. I'll be picking up a 760 Friday for my P4P800-DX, hee hee. Hope I can figger out how to mount a phase block on this puppy.

The question is, cascade on the CPU and Vapo on the GPU, or the other way around? :slobber:

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Originally Posted by stryg

According to this test, the P4P800 boards has vcore adjustments up to 1.6!
05-12-2005, 03:21 PM
saaya

congrats macci! :toast:

hmmm gotta find me a place that sells those boards already flashed with the new bios hmmm
05-12-2005, 05:10 PM
[XC] moddolicous

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Originally Posted by uclajd

Sweet. Just bought one. I'll be picking up a 760 Friday for my P4P800-DX, hee hee. Hope I can figger out how to mount a phase block on this puppy.

The question is, cascade on the CPU and Vapo on the GPU, or the other way around? :slobber:

Maybe since the CPU runs very cooly, u could try the Vapo on the CPU & Cascade on the VGA for 03 and 05, then switch it for 01, since 01 is mostly cpu intensive. Go for #1 Macci.
05-12-2005, 08:10 PM
uclajd

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Originally Posted by moddolicous

Maybe since the CPU runs very cooly, u could try the Vapo on the CPU & Cascade on the VGA for 03 and 05, then switch it for 01, since 01 is mostly cpu intensive.

Yeah, that's the plan, but since the X800 XTPE is already bundled up with the cascade, I'll go that way (Vapo on CPU) first...
05-13-2005, 02:51 AM
Venom21

Hey :]

I have a few questions:

1) Is there any difference between the P4C-E DLX or the non -E DLX?
2) Sould I go for 730 + P4C800 E or 740 + P4P800SE?
3) is there any OC potencial difference between the 740 and the 730?

My needs are: highest OC that can be reached with Air cooling.
the budget is limited so i can't buy 740 & P4C...

Thanks :)
05-13-2005, 03:03 AM
DrJay

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Originally Posted by Venom21

Hey :]

I have a few questions:

1) Is there any difference between the P4C-E DLX or the non -E DLX?
2) Sould I go for 730 + P4C800 E or 740 + P4P800SE?
3) is there any OC potencial difference between the 740 and the 730?

My needs are: highest OC that can be reached with Air cooling.
the budget is limited so i can't buy 740 & P4C...

Thanks :)

The answer to number 2 depends on how much you want to spend and whether you care if your processor has a 12x or 13x multiplier.
05-13-2005, 04:15 AM
Venom21

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Originally Posted by DrJay

The answer to number 2 depends on how much you want to spend and whether you care if your processor has a 12x or 13x multiplier.

I said that I can't buy 740 with P4C, anything else is posibble.
And the multiplier can be adjusted in EIST (am i right?), so i guess it's not really matter.

whats really mattar is if there any OC potencial difference between the 2 CPUs.

and if i should go for 730 + P4c or 740 + P4P.
05-13-2005, 05:13 AM
macci

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And the multiplier can be adjusted in EIST (am i right?), so i guess it's not really matter.

Actually it does matter a bit since for optimal performance you want to boot at atleast 200FSB (BIOS doesnt' have multi options, at the moment atleast). So for 730 your CPU needs to hit 2400MHz and for 740 2600MHz. I'd say that getting a 730 that will reach 2400 is more likely than getting a 740 that does 2600MHz. Both models have good and bad overclockers. You need to be lucky :)
I'd go for 730 + P4C

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