Official release of venice and diego on April 15th!

I'm waiting for early released batch of fx57....probly it will be the same like fx55 0437 to 42 vs. 0502 and up....which earlier batches of production oc. better than the newer 05 ones.

i think ill be waiting with ur result on the venice...
and if it scores high with u guys...il buying it...

The Vinice sounds good, but...I'm gonna wait until the desktop dual cores show up in June before I make my descision. I guess my FX-55 will have to do me until then... :rolleyes: :p:

Dual cores won't be suited for enthusiast use for quite some time. Sure, they'll be excellent for multitasking, but there will not be enough multi-threaded applications for them to be worth an upgrade.

deception``

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Originally Posted by Jimi...

Anyone know if these will be released in the UK on the 14th?

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I think you mean the 15th, and I don't see why they shouldn't be. :)

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Originally Posted by conrad.maranan

[PROMOTE D2OL]This is the reason why everyone should crunch for our D2OL team. With a dual-core processor, you can run multiple instances of the D2OL application. [/PROMOTE D2OL]

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The 1MB of L2 cache from Diego will help too, right? (I might have to switch from F@H to D2OL sometime. :D )

[PROMOTE D2OL]This is the reason why everyone should crunch for our D2OL team. With a dual-core processor, you can run multiple instances of the D2OL application. ;)[/PROMOTE D2OL]

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Originally Posted by deception``

Dual cores won't be suited for enthusiast use for quite some time. Sure, they'll be excellent for multitasking, but there will not be enough multi-threaded applications for them to be worth an upgrade.

deception``

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Yep, thats what everyone has been saying. I would rather wait until I see a few reviews before I make my final descision. ;)

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Originally Posted by deception``

Dual cores won't be suited for enthusiast use for quite some time. Sure, they'll be excellent for multitasking, but there will not be enough multi-threaded applications for them to be worth an upgrade.

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well remember that a dual core at 2.2ghz will be slightly faster single threaded apps than a 2.2ghz single core, no matter what.. and for the things that are multithreaded, it'll be way faster. it's a win win situation

(until you consider your wallet ;))

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Originally Posted by mcnbns

The 1MB of L2 cache from Diego will help too, right? (I might have to switch from F@H to D2OL sometime. :D )

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I don't think cache plays too big of a role for distributed computing applications. But with two cores, you can run two instances of D2OL simultaneously. Anyway, it's time for you to join the team. Hurry up and visit the D2OL section. :slapass: :D

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

well remember that a dual core at 2.2ghz will be slightly faster single threaded apps than a 2.2ghz single core, no matter what.. and for the things that are multithreaded, it'll be way faster. it's a win win situation

(until you consider your wallet ;))

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Um that doesn't make much sense at all. unless the app is multitasked it won't use the second core AT ALL. Also where did you get this info? Or did you just post it as an opinion?

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Originally Posted by Evil_Spork

also, the reason for the winchester cold bug is the memory controller, and AMD *IS* working to fix this. :D

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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...5&postcount=12

:fact:

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Originally Posted by crafty

IMO this is more speculation, this is the 3rd thread or so with somebody who spoke with somebody who spoke with AMD, etc. I'm waiting out on a Venice just like everybody else, but I've had everything but my processor ready for my new PC since the beginning of April. I'm about to just buy a dud Winny for $120 and deal with it for 1-2 months until I can actually get my hands on a new chip.

Edit: I would also like to note that this statement:


Cannot be viewed as "Answers given by AMD." If the information is not publically released, you should not be advertising it as such. The validity of this "source" seems sketchy at best.

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my source is respected by XS. we all know him, and the info is legit.

this is NOT speculation.

ps: sorry for all the typos in that last reply.. not sure what happened to me lol!

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Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer

I cant wait..

Spork, it looks like fugger made u fanboy!

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actually that was saaya and kazoo.

i AM the AMD fanboy, but i still keep a objective opinion :p:

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Originally Posted by Evil_Spork

my source is respected by XS. we all know him, and the info is legit.

this is NOT speculation.

ps: sorry for all the typos in that last reply.. not sure what happened to me lol!

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Alright, it just seemed shady to me. That being said I don't know your history or your source's history.

I hope your source is right :)

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Originally Posted by crafty

Alright, it just seemed shady to me. That being said I don't know your history or your source's history.

I hope your source is right :)

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I came to the same conclusion separate of any "rumors" over a month ago. Honestly, it's a very good logical conclusion to come to with the cold bug, with respect to its origin.

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Originally Posted by Evil_Spork

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also, the reason for the winchester cold bug is the memory controller, and AMD *IS* working to fix this. :D

they do know, and are fixing it..........

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Does that apply to all Winchesters that ever came out? How can they fix a CPU that is already in the hands of the user? RMA it and send out new one?

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Originally Posted by Mcklain

Do you think the memory controller on the San Diego core will be better than the one on lets say an FX-53. Overcloking wise??

Mcklain

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I woulda also like to know :stick:

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Originally Posted by jcniest5

Does that apply to all Winchesters that ever came out? How can they fix a CPU that is already in the hands of the user? RMA it and send out new one?

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they are working on making a better controller that doesnt fail under cold temps.

they would implement this on new 90nm chips, like the venice and san diego.

the fact that several venice ES chips or early slips have been proven to work under cold temps shows there is at least some imporovment in the IMC already. hopefully there will be more as time goes on.

Making a new winchester rev doesn't make sense with the Venice out so I suppose they'll give users the posibility to disable that :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing winchester thermal diode if its that what messes up when too cold.

BTW: when you say the problem is the mem controller, does this include the thermal diode?

EDIT: Just saw your post Evil_Spork

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Originally Posted by Always

Making a new winchester rev doesn't make sense with the Venice out so I suppose they'll give users the posibility to disable that :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing winchester thermal diode if its that what messes up when too cold.

BTW: when you say the problem is the mem controller, does this include the thermal diode?

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not the diode. its nothing to do with reading temps, its just the IMC not liking low temps. it wont run at the lower temps for some reason.

kind of like how an LCD wont run at very low temps, or it gets sluggish. (REALLY bad example, but kinda similar. they could fix the problem by... maybe adding a heater to an LCD panel to allow it to opperate in very cold ambient temps.)

see what im saying? did that make sense? the IMC just wont run at low temps.

AMD told someone who told me that my mommy doesnt really love me :(

Whatever happen to Sandy Diago?????????????????? :)

lets just keeping on with VENICE for right now !

Hang on, isnt this the ACTUAL release date, and if so shipping is gonna be another couple of weeks?

venice will be shipped from April 15th(Friday) and on shops by 18th :)

atleast here in some e-shops of italy :)