That should be easy. Since DDR2 is internally quad-pumped, all you have to do is get it running at 200MHz, which is stock for regular DDR.Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
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That should be easy. Since DDR2 is internally quad-pumped, all you have to do is get it running at 200MHz, which is stock for regular DDR.Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
Theres a reason this place is called Xtreme Systems, and not Average Systems. Org...Quote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
if you don't like seeing a system taken to it's absolute edge, I am sure theres plenty of other forums out there for you, here, everything is about pushing it to the absolute limits.
as for this 400 at 1:1 screen shot.... damn :toast:
Take it easy, Rambo... :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunaak
If you call that a "performance limit" then I'll retire from OC today :p:
EDIT: I'm really dissapointed with you, Kunaak :( Seriously. I wasn't expecting comment like that from you :(
EDIT again: Honestly, I don't even think that what you just said is proper behaviour exhibited by Moderator...
I dont really see anything wrong with what kunaak said myself. As for the 400+ 1:1... even at 2T this is pretty sick. I'd be curious to see a sandra run though, if it's doable.
Yeah... suicide shots are teh suck. It shouldn't really count as any kind of record unless it's stable enough to bench.
Bachus... your too sensitive man.
I've said this same comment a dozen times before, cause I always hear people saying "if it's not stable I don't care, why post that here... blah blah blah".
I just sometimes wonder if people remember where they are at. LN2 is the name of the game around here, WR's are broke here every week, the craziest of the crazy congregate here to find other loonies like them willing to kill a thousand dollars worth of stuff, for a shot at something great...
macci had the best explanation of it, something like "you win races in sprints not crawls"
some people just don't understand why anyone would want to overclock... they always say "if I can get 50 frames per second in doom 3, why bother trying to get 60, if I have to go through the touble of overclocking"
others say "50 FPS is nice, but I want more".
some OC cause it's there to do.
others wonder why you would ever bother.
it's kinda like how a kid tricks out a car to get 10 more HP out of it, while a mom thinks "who cares, I can't pack anymore groceries in it" hahah....
it's something like that ;)
if you take what I say as bad, then I am sorry, but thats not how it's intended.
it's just... you are at XS :D what do you expect around here?
Well, he isn't going to break the record for any kind of performance, because it simply doesn't perform! And clock frequency is MEANINGLESS, unless it would translate into better benchmarks. Take some guy for example, last week got the WR for something 500HTT on an AMD64 rig. Stable. I don't think anybody even remembers by now.
To complete your little "win races by sprints, not crawls" analogy, this means that your speed is 90km/h (insane, right?). But you can't win the 100m sprint, because you can only maintain that speed for 5m. Congratulations, nobody cares.
Overclocking is a different story. Personally, I do it for fun. Or maybe for the sake of overclocking. Since 50FPS is already redundant (I usually cap my games at 36FPS, to minimize packet loss) But there are other ways to exploit the extra performance. You could try to get better and better quality (scale resolution, AF and AA filtering). But overclocking so far that it's only stable for 30 seconds after you boot into Windows is once again, stupid. You get 0FPS. Why? Because you can't even start Doom3. Or 2.
@Kunaak,
Suicide screenies are like... showing everyone how great your ride looks but at the same time, having to admit that it either doesn't run or it's performance is questionable! What's the point, I ask? I would rather have slightly less pimped out ride but running and capable!
Those kind of records are very easy to question, really. Because after dust settles down folks will demand benchmarks. And if there are no benchmarks to show or they are, but results ar far from great, then I would rather not show it...
I just hope that we will see more results to be proud of. This one doesn't make me feel like it.
EDIT: Look at this perfect example how crappy timmings kill performance despite higher Mem and CPU clocks ... (no offense to MR.Icee intended. He said his RAM is incapable of tighter latencies)
Mr.Icee's SuperPI 16M @ 360x7=2520MHz DDR720 8-5-6-2.5-1T
http://www.xtremeresources.com/image...16MPiFast3.JPG
My SuperPI 16M @ 345x7=2415MHz DDR690 7-3-4-2.5-1T
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=26127&stc=1
Do you see my point now?
iddqd
If you don't care they why are you posting in the thread and reading this? :shrug: Why don't you move on and enjoy your life outside the thread instead of annoying those who care and are reading and posting in this totally useless thread :idea:
That's real nice result. Puts things into perspective a bit :slobber:
А это уже моё дело. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich
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Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich
This really shows your low level, sorry mate, don't you think it's not right to call the guys here something in your own language, nobody understands. Myself doesn't understand it, this is why englisch is the language here.Quote:
Originally Posted by iddqd
People here do it all the time.
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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
could you possibly be more of an ass ?
:slobber: Hey - what's goin' on here, civil war ?
Am I new to the show titeled "How do I feel pissed by my interactive mate" ??? :confused:
:toast:
Why does the HTT say 400 and the RAM frequency says 400MHz in CPU-Z yet, the FSB:DRAM ratio isn't showing 1:1?
There is definately something strange going on here.
I agree with Bachus, records are broken here. Records of performance, the ORB and superPI for example.
A screenie is just that, a screenie. It's fun to look at but when the dust settles you want to see some action, not bling bling.
Iddqd, i think you deserve a warning for that. It's not my job to decide though. Insulting someone who doesn't speak you language in your language. It doesn't matter if it meant "I love you too". Since he doesn't understand it he will percive it as an insult.
Vodoo i don't think he was, care to elaborate?
I guess you and I are just gonna have to agree to disagree.
I just say, people tend to do screen shots of insane things, cause some of us realize how hard it really is to do.
if you think a shot like this isn't amazing... try doing it yourself.
when you realize how hard it is to achieve something, it's alot easier to give someone alittle respect for trying so damn hard to do something as simple as a screen shot of something... even when unstable. ;)
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there are 2 sorts of records
Xtremes suicidal screenies
xtremes suicidal benches
410MHz 1:1 is an incredible achievement, no matter how you frame it. As for suicide overclocks, if you can't respect them, at least respect the overclocker. You think those 3.8GHz and 7GHz+ cascade runs are "meaningless"? Maybe you do, but that's just your opinion. The point is is that runs like those, even if only stable for a couple of minutes at a time took thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours at least to put together. You think a <25 sec LN2 superpi run comes easy just cause its not stable for the rest of your lifetime? Guess what, it doesn't. Sometimes the least stable overclocks are the hardest ones to achieve. What I always keep in the back of my mind when I see an overclock is not its stability, not its performance, but effort that was put it in to get it. Calling such overclocks pointless is being completely disrespectful to the overclockers that achieved them and all of the effort they put in to back it.
Edited for clarification. Was intended for one person only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crankster
Well, I suppose - to each his own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunaak
So... If I were to set my memory clock to 400MHz 2-2-2, and it's stable for 1/400000000 of a second, that would still count as a WR? It is stable for some period of time, however small.. I have nothing against suicide benchmarks; since they do measure performance. But suicide screens just give you numbers, which don't really mean anything. Is a 7.2Ghz Prescott faster than a 4.1Ghz FX-55? We'll never know, because neither of them are stable enough to do anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gautam
You're being a bit ridiculous now. And my main point is not how stable or unstable the overclock is. My point is that you're entitled to your opinion, but if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. Sometimes it is just the thought that counts, and the effort that it took to achieve it.
e.g. I'm guessing that that 200 1.5-1-1 performs a tad worse than 250 2-2-2, but it's still impressive, isn't it?
Ok, ok, ok....
Just sometimes things make me laugh when I see records broken...
Like recently given advice by someone to someone (it doesn't matter)... It went sth like this: "If your OC is so unstable that taking a CPU-Z screenie with PrintScreen option, opening Paint and saving it may be too dangerous (read: causing crash) use "CPU-Z F5 trick". Is that how breaking records was meant to be done ??? Gimme a break, will ya :rolleyes:
It looks like it all comes down to what do you personally feel proud of... I don't think you will ever see me posting suicidal screenies. I just feel I can do a lot better than that... Just not worth it to me to participate in OC Olimpics' discipline called "SUICIDE SCREEN" ;)
About the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gautam
As for the former, I'd be much more impressed if he beat the highest stable memry clock WR, rather than highest unstable one.
CPU/7 means that 7 is the multiplier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nubius