Poor Overclocking Newer (ie:0503) Winchester Onwers - Check This Out!

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03-15-2005, 10:02 AM
chr

i have tried this and can say that it does work. before i couldn't get into windows @ 2500mhz on my 3500+ cbbgd 0504 w slk948u; now, @ 1.4v @ 110%, im at 2500 stable. thanks for the tip.
03-15-2005, 10:17 AM
mad mikee

Andy - Wat you talkin abut heh!

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyOCZ

I belev yoo was referrin ta mee?

Hey man, I'm tired :)

Yeh YOU! :lol: :ROTF:

You need to got ta dfi-street.com and learn Rgonian, then y'all can spek proper-like :D
03-15-2005, 03:03 PM
GregP24

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

Well, someone fill me in here because I seem fail to understand something here :rolleyes:
What is the deal with people not giving Winnies more than 1.6v? What about 1.7v? Is it high temperature you guys are reporting or what?

It kills them in a very short time.
03-15-2005, 03:31 PM
DarkManX_BG

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Originally Posted by GregP24

It kills them in a very short time.

Really? How short :confused:
03-15-2005, 03:42 PM
GregP24

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkManX_BG

Really? How short :confused:

Mine started losing it's OC after about 2 1/2 months. I went fom a rock solid 2.72ghz down to 2.68ghz.
03-15-2005, 06:38 PM
Oc-cba

Quote:

Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich

The only thing I can imagine is that the mobo's increase the voltage in each of the cases BUT increasing the VID is better for some reason.

I think it's important to figure out exactly what we're on to here and then somebody should write an article on this. It could be very important!

Is there anybody with an OLDER Winchester who also received a nice gain?

Not OLDER but already nice performer (2,65 benchable on air, 2,97 pi1m under phase) CBBHD 0450 chip is now priming for about 5 minutes at 2,6ghz @ 1,35 + 23% (1,6v) against maximun 2,52 @ 1,5+13% (1,61) ... damn just failed hehehhe but I'm 99% sure earlier it was instant faillure. Will reboot set at 26% and report back (god bye "will sleep early tonight )
:D
03-15-2005, 06:46 PM
bachus_anonym

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregP24

It kills them in a very short time.

Really??? And how are you 100% sure that your Winnie's OC capabilites diminished due to higher vcore?
I've had my Winnie for, I think, over 4 months now and it even got better :lol:
It's been running with 1.70v since day1 on my Neo2 @ 2.62Mhz and now it sailes along with my DFI NF4 with 1.71v @ 2.67GHz... Always air-cooled with XP-90 + 92mm quiet fan - temp max 48C under LOAD... How about that???
03-15-2005, 06:47 PM
EMC2

--- Ivan ---

FYI... increasing VCore using the "Special VID Option" (using +%xx) is *not* changing the VID. And there will be an upcoming article ;) Patience grasshopper.
03-15-2005, 07:07 PM
Oc-cba

well now @ 2,6ghz - 26%+ it primed for 9 minutes and failed, and is now about 20mins priming @ 2.55 seems it can go all night (will check tomorrow and report), now to sleep.
03-15-2005, 07:27 PM
idleuser

oc-cba same here Mines at 2610 mhz prime failed at the 9th hour but 2565mhz go all night :)
03-15-2005, 07:53 PM
drcrawn

I am experiencing the exact same voltage woes as you guys. This is with the Opteron 252, no fine vcore adjustments. Either 1.45 or 1.6v, pretty much. Unfortunately I don't have % adjustments in BIOS, and nothing sticks. I cannot hit 1.5v, 1.525v or 1.55v and it's driving me crazy. :rolleyes:

p.s. I'm at 2834 (218x13) with ~1.45v.
03-15-2005, 10:07 PM
mrlobber

A crappy 0451 CBBID Winnie here (max 2300 Mhz Prime stable), will try this trick tonight as well to see whether it carries me somewhere :banana:
03-16-2005, 03:07 AM
Mastakilla

i run 1.55v x 104%, which is 1.612v

ive been tryin some other combinations yesterday and below 1.6v my cpu didnt like at all...

it did work when using 1.425v x 113%, which is about 1.61025 (a very lil less then 1.55v x 104%)

but when occt'ing i noticed that this last setting gave a variable voltage...

when idling smart guardian said it was 1.56v, but after occt'ing awhile it started quickly switching between 1.56v and 1.58v in smartguardian
1.55v x 104% gave me a stable 1.56v in smartguardian

so while 1.425v x 113% should normally be a lil less then 1.55v x 104%, it wasnt... it was actually more and variable...

so i switched back to the original 1.55v x 104%, since more cpu vid = more heat
03-16-2005, 04:18 PM
flexy

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Originally Posted by andyOCZ

Hmmm..... so I set the voltage to 1.40v and the CPU VID Special Control to 123%. This read fine in Windows and i was able to hit 2610mhz stable in Prime95.

this is 1.72 V !!! Are you aware of that ??
03-16-2005, 08:56 PM
andyOCZ

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Originally Posted by flexy

this is 1.72 V !!! Are you aware of that ??

I said I set that, not that I RUN that. I use 1.35 VID x 123% and this is 1.62v in BIOS. No problems should result from that.
03-16-2005, 09:03 PM
A_X

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Originally Posted by flexy

this is 1.72 V !!! Are you aware of that ??

So? 1.72V Really isn't that big of a deal when his load temps are under 50 degrees.
03-16-2005, 09:27 PM
MethylONE

Got a CBBID 0503, on new DFI NF4... starting the learning process now from my old Socket A.

So different. Get ready for questions guys.
03-20-2005, 11:06 AM
wampir

Who will explain me what the F is going on

Yesterday i did this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...0-dfi-155v.jpg

I was supprised so i wrote down all setting and tried to do the same today but it didnt work out

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...4/27-sp2k4.jpg

9x300 boot and sp2004 1,43V

BUT
16M max only 9x305 . temp , with winter cooling max 29C
1M only 9x307 doesnt matter what vcore :mad:

on MSI neo2 i reached 2810 9x312 mem 281 2,5-3-3-7-1T

mobo dfi ultra-d , bios 03/10
03-20-2005, 04:50 PM
One_Hertz

Could more people please post their experiences with the voltage of a winnie relating to its lifespan? I am getting pretty worried here... :eek: :eek: :eek:

:toast:
03-20-2005, 06:48 PM
MaxxxRacer

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Hey guys, i thought i didnt have the bug becuase cpuz was showing the correct voltages, but i went into sandra and mbm5 as andy did and i found some pretty wierd results. it says my voltages for my cpu are 2.9volts... now that is in no way shape or form correct. is it possible that this is the bug and im not really giving my cpu 1.6volts.. i will do the 123% thing to see if i got hte bug, but im interested as i got another winnie 0506 that wont go over 9x255 (2.3ghz~) without crashing.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=26970&stc=1
03-20-2005, 08:20 PM
EMC2

--- Maxx ---

Trust the multimeter ;) The surface mount ceramic caps between the socket and the Vcore FETs is a good place to measure on the DFI.

From the looks of it, MBM is displaying your Vmem voltage, lol. Change the selected sensor.
03-20-2005, 09:15 PM
MaxxxRacer

lol.. except for the fact that the k8n neo2 cant go up that high on the mem voltage.. where do you check the cpu voltage on the k8n neo2? i will check the place that you said in hopes of some luck

i found a few places where there were caps missing. i checked them. i was getting 1.64 volts or so.. so voltage is not an issue for me.. my winnie just sucks hardcore.
03-20-2005, 09:24 PM
EMC2

LOL... have had DFI on the brain from bench work, sorry :)

Never had a Neo, so don't know... but in general the area described is a good possibility. There'll usually be a small group of them all together by the socket. Just be careful not to short your probes to anything or each other. :toast:
03-20-2005, 10:06 PM
andyOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by One_Hertz

Could more people please post their experiences with the voltage of a winnie relating to its lifespan? I am getting pretty worried here... :eek: :eek: :eek:

:toast:

My "unnoficial" recomendation is don't go too much over 1.6v and you should have no issues. I have run mine at that and see no ill effects.
03-20-2005, 10:10 PM
dX.

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Originally Posted by EMC2

--- Ivan ---

FYI... increasing VCore using the "Special VID Option" (using +%xx) is *not* changing the VID. And there will be an upcoming article ;) Patience grasshopper.

EMC2, care to share your findings? Are you saying that the +xxx% doesn't actually raise vcore or something? I am confused.

Cheers!
Dan.

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