damn it just bought CBBHD 0450 :(
should i sell it ???
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damn it just bought CBBHD 0450 :(
should i sell it ???
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Originally Posted by TEDY
If it's a good clocker, no.
Venice cores will be out for some time, your not in a hurry :)
That's a pretty decent overclock for such low voltage! I'd say keep it, but if you're looking to upgrade you could always PM me... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
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Originally Posted by TEDY
I would say no. You have a great OC in your sig, and with the low voltage, room to go higher. Since it is only speculation anyways that the venice will OC better, why chance it?
Its Athens, Troy, Venus for 1 way, 2 way, and 8 way.Quote:
Originally Posted by OC Detective
Exactly! Although I am glad new ones are coming out. It just means cpu's, etc will be more advanced by my next upgrade!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikael
w00t
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Originally Posted by Moonman
the hype has already started, theres one dude already talking about getting 400x12=4.8GHz :stick: everyones making fun of him now, im telling him those arent p4s and to expect 3GHz to be a good goal with air, maybe 4GHz with cascade or dry ice :stick:
"I don't see any particular reason it would be able to reach ridiculous overclocks unless it was sSOI and even then who knows."
some say all will be strained silcon, others say just the diegos. One guy thinks amd will put OVP and maybe even multilock their 512k venice chips to limit their overclocking while leaving the diego open for xtreme overclocks cause amd makes so much more $ on diego, it to amd's advantage that people do NOT buy venice instead of diego to overclock so I guess those who dont care to oc much go venice, those that want good oc go diego. I am hearing that diego may do 200+ higher on average than venice then you also got double the cache to throw in as well.....
"Speed binning might mess it all up! before there were only 3 chips to compete with. 3000+, 3200+ and 3500+."
amd may bin the best silcon for diego and make sure the venice, especially the lower ones dont get as good bins. Thus 3000+ and 3200+ is likley to do worse than 3500+ and up, this is already true for many of the most recent winchesters. Thing is I am not too keen on spending almost $300 for a 3500+ venice or twice that for a 4000+ diego, I mean my $160 winny does 2.6GHz
"Figures. Just got my 3200 last week. Bah."
theres always ebay ;)
"You have to think that more 3000/3200 +'s get sold tho, so even higher ones will have to be downgraded to keep up with the demand, so everyone flood them when they come out"
amd could do even more testing with higher clocks and undervolting, maybe if a 3500+ needs 1.3v to do that and another needs 1.2v amd will underclock the 1.3v one and sell as a 3000+ so youll still not get as good an overclock as a "real" 3500+ yes your 3000+ will still hit 3500+ speeds but the 3500+ may do more :D
"Apparently, the vast majority of all chips on the same wafer perform the same, if anything, the ones on the outer edge of the silicon wafer are slightly less capable"
perhaps but what about different wafers? amd could use the best wafers for the highest binned venice and for all diegos and they can see if a wafer is not giving them high clocks, they will bin all chips on that "weak" wafer as 3000+ and 3200+
"They better overclock well. I'll be quite disappointed if they don't."
they probably will if you get a diego or a 3800+ venice, amd may speedbin the lower ones. it all boils down, would you pay $200 for a 3200+ venice to get 270x10 or $400+ for a 3800+ Venice to break 3GHz? Want 3GHz and 1mb cache? Thatll set you back $600+ for 4200+ diego or near a grand for the exclusive fx57! :slobber: as for me, I am getting either the 3000+ or 3200+ Venice depending how they clock. I wont need 10x multi if they dont clock high enough, ill just run 300+ fsb at 9x 1:1 thanks to its improved ondie controller.
"all i want is 2.7 after that is just icing on the cake. Give us a mem controller that will handle anything we throw at it. PLEASE"
ondie controller is a big factor for me, my winny cant get past 262 with my 2x512 patriot, id love to run 300x9 with that venice. I do want at least 2.8GHz though seeing my winny does 2.6GHz, seems kinda silly to sidegrade just for the ondie controller and besides I already do 289fsb with 2x256mb ram which is much easier on the ondie controller.
"So I get to ditch my poor OCing FX-53 for a *possibly* uber OCing San Diego next month? Sweet."
2.5GHz is indeed poor for a fx53, id ebay it now before diego comes and lowers its value.
"I'm extremely happy with my 754 3000+ setup and it'll last me at least another year or two."
I used to also own a 3200+ s754 at 2.58GHz but it cant hold a candle to my winny
"With the reports of the 4200+ doing stock speed (2.6GHz) at 1.25V"
this doesnt tell me much, undervolting is not = to overclocking.
"They better overclock well. I'll be quite disappointed if they don't."
they probably will if you get a diego or a 3800+ venice, amd may speedbin the lower ones. it all boils down, would you pay $200 for a 3200+ venice to get 270x10 or $400+ for a 3800+ Venice to break 3GHz? Want 3GHz and 1mb cache? Thatll set you back $600+ for 4200+ diego or near a grand for the exclusive fx57! as for me, I am getting either the 3000+ or 3200+ Venice depending how they clock. I wont need 10x multi if they dont clock high enough, ill just run 300+ fsb at 9x 1:1 thanks to its improved ondie controller.
I think if 3200+s did an average of 270x10 that would be a good improvement. Winiies do it, but most dont.
Magnj
>>Want 3GHz and 1mb cache?
There's always the 4000+ too.
anyone know what the prices will be roughly?
Same for same rating. Winchester should cost about the same as Venice before running out of stock.
They posted new prices today. FX-55's look like most significant drop.
AMD Pricing, March 10th
Not all of us have unlimited money to spend on our systems. Especially as a high school student. It does everything I need it to and does everything I need it to well. I don't give a crap if it "can't hold a candle to your winny"Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
Its just not a worthwile upgrade for me. I don't have money to burn.
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Originally Posted by EMC2
AMD Athlon™ 64 FX-55 $827
4000+ $643
3500+ $272
3200+ $194
3000+ $149
Still not cheap. If that 3000+ is a venice, thats a sweet price. The 3200+ is alot more so Venice better clock high for it to be worth the 10x multi.
Big price difference going to 4000+ from 3500+ for 200MHz more and 1mb cache.
"Not all of us have unlimited money to spend on our systems. Especially as a high school student."
That I understand, but I had the $50 to go from s754 to s939 after all was said and done ebaying my s754 stuff. I am ebaying my winny so Venice will be a cheap upgrade too.
"Not all of us have unlimited money to spend on our systems. Especially as a high school student."
Amen... 7.50$ an hour aint cuttin it
try 3.5$/h i'm getting here...
nah its just inhabited by them ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ackbar
im really excieted about this, now i will feel like i made a good choice for waiting for the dfi nf3 agp board, which should be due out in april as well ,yippeeee :banana: :banana: :banana:
prices will probably be the same unless stores start price gouging us....
Well if all you guys pre-order or make a mad dash for them on the first day they are available the whole supply/demand thing will kick in and they'll "gouge" us. Just sit on your credit cards a few weeks/months and then when I give the word ... we all upgrade. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
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Originally Posted by TEDY
time to find a new job, min wage here is $5.5 but people cant buy a car, house, whatever at less than $20 hour.
I 2nd that :toast: although yes I realize this thread is almost a month old now haha.Quote:
im really excieted about this, now i will feel like i made a good choice for waiting for the dfi nf3 agp board, which should be due out in april as well ,yippeeee
For anyone who actually does perhaps come back to this, is it basically being agreed upon then that the San Diego will actually be the core to get? For not only the extra cache but the fact it should OC better too? But of course this is all speculation but was just seeing what the general concensus is as of right now :p
Nothing about the FX-55?
That would mean that we have to wait until the FX-57 for 90nm; it could mean that this new revision isn't that great.
there is no 90nm fx55, its not on the roadmaps. The Diego will be 4000+, 4200+ and fx57. NO mention of fx55, NO point when there already is a fx55, amd only makes one line of fx at a time and discountinues the older one
That....or this particular silicon design and architecture isnt meant for the power that those higher chips posess. The winchesters were supposedly not that great to go above 2.2GHz (obviously this isnt the case as many people have, just quoting AMD release article in regards to venice) and that the venice can hit 2.8GHz fairly easily but that 2.8GHz is somewhat a cap off point for the silicon architecture.....
So simply put I think it's just mainly meant for these lessor chips not a server processing power kind of chip like the FX series.
Don't know this is all my speculation and ranting ;)