it's on thier beta server. you have to search around for it a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip
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it's on thier beta server. you have to search around for it a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip
So what happens if you set it to 1.55 +10%? What is the highest +% that works right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip
oh, well i will check it, i would assume that wouldever % that give 1.66 is the max% that works.
other than that i think the board is stable. Although i thought there was an nv/ati speedup option? OPB showed it, but maybe i don't have the right bios. i'm using the beta bios that was linked in the thread.
i can screenshot 300tweaked, and take everest benches. but i can't even run superpi 1m at 280 2.5-3-3-10 1T fully tweaked, i haven't tested this chip on other boards, so i can't say for sure if its the board or if its the chip. I am using 2x512MB, so i would guess its the chip before the board. i think the memory is good for 300+HTT.
maybe i'm not giving the NB enough voltage. its 1.5stock, not sure if thats enough or not.
the heatsink isnt even close to being warm.
oh gotta change the sig now that my rig is different.
that bios is very buggy, i can only set the big 4 latencies, and TRD and TRFC, anything else will cause a no-post. i never really used the other bios, so i can't confirm that.
man... I'll be receiving this board shortly... sounds like I should have stayed with the Gigabyte.
try the 111 bios for comparison and remember the hidden bios settings keystroke, I forget but like Shift-F2 then Alt-F3. Then the Ati/Nvida thingy may show.
I'll probably install this baord tonight. I'll post anything I find. probably try to do the vcore mod first.
how come these things aren't in the manual!
well currently 260HTT is stable, not tweaked really though. still trying to discern whether my mem controller, or my board, or the memory itself is topping out. but 270HTT it can't be the memory. a single stick can run all day long at 300HTT with my DFI skt 754 board.
Did you set the pcie card to 101mhz? Might help lock the pci like when we had to set the NEO2 to 67.
The beat bios 121 scales to different +%'s depending on which cpu is installed and also dependent of whether you set the vcore in bios on auto or whatever the top voltage choice is for your cpu listed in the bios. The %'s do work, but the only way I was able to get in the 1.85 range was in combination with the hardware mod. I used a 20K resistor and tunred it way down before the voltage started going up.
(on a FX55 and bios 121, set at auto gives +13.3% as the top choice. When set to 1.55 it gives 9.9% as the top choice. That 2nd one produces the highest stock bios voltage of around 1.72v, then I have to use the hardware mod from there)
I have noticed the chipset does seem hotter than the NEo2 and I have it set at 1.6.
XGman... do you have a Winchester to test out the voltages on those?
only a fx55.
my DFi chipset got pretty hot, this one is pretty cool.
when i say 1.66V thats what hw monitor is reporting. it actually is set to 1.69. but all the programs say 1.66
this board is undervolting a little for me. i have to do +3.3% off VID to actually get the true VID.
xgman- i didn't change my pci-e clock to 101, but i figured if i can take screenies of 300HTT, then its locked. but i'll give it a shot.
also if i play a game and monitor temps with rivatuner, when i quit the game it will shut down my computer, this only happens when rivatuner is open though. I don't think this has to do with the board though. any idea what is wrong with that? i'd like a way to monitor temps when i'm playing a game.
This is a bit encouraging that the Fx chips can get a little more voltage. 1.72v isn't great, but its better than 1.66v.
XG: What mod did you use? I'm Octane over on XS, and VO_Nuclear on MSI forums. Did that one mod work out for you?
Thanks
Yes the mod is simple. 20K turnable pot to the sodder point on that pciture near the chip, to ground. If you set the 20k to 20k, you are still at stock. I turned up the bios as far as it would go and then started turning the pot screw. I turned it almost all the way down and then the vcore in the monitor started going over 1.8v After 1.85 the computer powered off from in the bios so I backed it down around 1.80-1.82v and it seems to be fine there. The beta bios is crucial to get anything going though. Op had done the same mod on his sli without the beta bios and could only get to around 1.72.
Thanks for the info, I'll go pick up some VRs tonight, and see what I can do.
you are circling two points xgman? but you said only one solder point. i'm guessing you solder the two points, and the third leg of the VR goes to ground right?
sodder the circle to the left. The one on the chip is too small to sodder to. So the left one to ground.
I am finding that when voltage is pushed above 1.75 even, the board starts getting flakey at boot. Once in windows it runs perfect at any speed, but then very frequently on startup or reboot, it goes straight to "windows config missing" errorn screen and I have to restore to get back into windows and then all is fine for hours in windows, so maybe the voltage thing is doing something naughty at first boot. I alos went back to bios 110 and it didn't seem to effect the vcore at all even though max vcore was limited to +8.3%. In any case I am looking forward to the DFI next week where a mod is unnecessary.
i don't think i'm going to mod it, i took a look at the sodder point, and its pretty damn small, and i don't plan on keeping the board, i plan on selling it off to a friend.
well i found that before i thought my max stable DC was 260HTT, but i guess at 265x4 the HT starts getting funky, so i dropped it down to 3x and now 285 is very stable. just played sid meiers pirates for about 4 hours and not a single hiccup, and also ran about 20 super pi 1m's. so i think thats pretty good for 2x512MB sticks.
edit: i was thinking xgman, why don't you keep the +% as high as it goes, and just drop down the VID into safe booteable voltage. and then once in windows raise the VID with clockgen. That might work out good.
I've also been running at 4x which was stable on the Neo2, but maybe a switch at 266 to 3x is needed.
Any news for Neo4 PLatinum SLI / MS7100 bios?.....
i found that 285HTT is stable as a rock in prime blend and in a full S&M run. but at that HTT the nforce4 sata is corrupted. my windows is really buggy right now. and at barely any oc, the Sil3114 won't even detect a drive. not very happy with the board.
I tried the bios today in my Neo 4 platinium, and this is what i achieved:
http://img117.exs.cx/img117/9063/nf4msineo4178ed.th.jpg
CPU VID: 1,450
Overvolt in bios 16%
With Corecenter Vcore +5% -->
and all this gets 1.68-1.7 Vcore.
Dont Know if 8% would give sthg else because i am with stock cooling :stick: :stick:
But i have a problem, dont know what causes it, but no matter any of the ram dividers i use, i cant get the HTT any further than 270. i can get 269, but not even 270.
I dont think its the CPU coz, its achieving 2.6 Ghz at 1.6 Vcore... I was nearly paying my gskill pc4800LA, do u think 1:1 i could solve the problem???
I hace stinky geil Ultra pc3200 2-3-3-6 that doesnt go any further than 220.
Thanks a lot.
:confused: Any working BIOS now with 1,85 Vcore without hardware mod ?
:toast:
So last night I flashed my Neo 4 with this new beta bios. I go into the bios and now I see the max VID is 1.45 and at that setting the max Overvolt is 16.6%. Cool, so I boot into windows and CoreCentre reads 1.69. From reviews that sounds about right for the max vCore on this board. But now I go into the voltage section in CoreCentre. There I see the vCore sitting on 3.3%, but there is still 5% and 8.8% left. Not thinking that it will actually work, I apply the 5% option. To my surprise the vCore goes up. Ok, next I try 8.8% and it goes up again. So at the end of the day, I ended up with 1.82 Volts on the core. Not bad? :D
:D Good news - I need 1,8 for my FX and if the RMA'd DFI will not work again I switch to MSI NEO4.Quote:
Originally Posted by AllBrain
Please report this in a PM to windwithme, maybe he's got an idea how to get it to work straight from the BIOS.
1,82 is a very nice number but it's not rally satisfying to change the Vcore everytime in core center after booting rig with a lower speed.
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oh, so corecenter misreports and then in turn goes to like +30% vcore.
so thats 1.8 for winnies. which means that fx-55 will get like 1.9 because the VID switches to where 1.55 is the highest i think.