LOL...what have i started here...hehe.
My board has a vdimm mod on it, its a pre production and it has hit 350+fsb. 320+ 1:1 with TCCD (2x256)
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LOL...what have i started here...hehe.
My board has a vdimm mod on it, its a pre production and it has hit 350+fsb. 320+ 1:1 with TCCD (2x256)
we all know which mobo is....
QDI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
or some
ASROCK
LOL
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Originally Posted by bigtoe
From that statement it sounds like your saying its a nf4. but i think you just worded it poorly.
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Originally Posted by bigtoe
Maybe... there's only so much paitence I would think with these mobo makers getting yanked around.. AMD is small market maybe only room for a couple chipsets..Nvidia and VIA are king.
Mobo makers already had 940 and 754 to deal with and 4 chipsets with several iterations each only to get punked when 939 came out.
939 has SiS, Via, NF3, NF4, Ali, and now ATI + iterations of each... Really how many boards can they make?
I'm afraid ATI may play second fiddle to Nvidia and Via when it comes to choice.
Sure you may get a couple boards come out with ATI but no where near choice as with the top dawgs.
err nvidia doesnt lock it. If ati had drivers that supported it and had a pci bridge connector on its cards, ati cards would work as well. What would u want? U want nvidia to go out of their way and make special adapters so that ati cards would work on their chipset? Its just like 3dc, ati isnt locking nvidia out of using it, nvidia just isnt implementing it(altho it has been recently(2 months ago) that nvidia can do quasi 3dc with 2x the memory usage as reg 3dc). But back to the point on how ati needs to make their cards and drivers work with the sli chipset for it to work, its not an issue of nvidia locking them out.Quote:
Originally Posted by jikdoc
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Originally Posted by Jupiler
Probably 3.4v!! :D
i'm not sure that if ati had the proper drivers and a pci bridge connector the cards would work on an nf4 sli board. i'm basing my response on the fact that nvidia has put pressure on mobo makers to drop their plan of implementing 16/2 sli on the ultra boards, and the fact that nvidia has disallowed sli support for 16/2 sli at the driver level. as a consumer, i don't enjoy the feeling of being constrained to an nvidia gfx card solution to run sli. granted, my opinion might be completely offbase, but this is the general impression i get from nvidia's recent actions.Quote:
Originally Posted by P_1
Ya you are evil. :shakes: Well with a VDIMM mod, it could be an MSI, since they are the only ones I know of that have them out in the US. Nah, probably not.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
bigtoe, can you say whether the board is mATX? :)
nVidia would sue their funny faces for using SLI technology and their proprietary connector. SLI was legally their's when they acquired 3dfx.Quote:
Originally Posted by P_1
well dfi have a way around using sli technology,
who knows maybe AMR will work on a nf4 mobo :D
Made up my mind to buy the DFI NF4 board but this information made me wait a while :)
My old NF7-S will have to serve me a while longer.
Maybe even AMD have released their sSOI packaging by the time we know what this ATI chipset can do :)
It sure seems promising this far.
Yea I'd say you would need to over clock to overcome the USB issues.
http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/2.../index.x?pg=17
No nVIdia compario here :eek:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=23049
I believe they already solved this problem they had with the USB.
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will be the board to have...
I really love how we're all 'jumping on the bandwagon' now, when we still don't even know about the overclocking options this specific board will be offering us.
This is great to see, just hope that this board is overclocker-friendly.
What with the moticum of different chipsets, not to mention different manufacturers, it would not surpise me if the best S939 motherboard, for the overclocker, ends up being one of the sleepers that isn't receiving any coverage at all right now.
Yep ATI said they are going to. But it'll take a new South bridge, which is in the works, for Q2.Quote:
Originally Posted by G0DZILLA
I was realy realy interested in this chipset myself, but after seeing the USB probs, me "personaly" would rather wait for the second revision chipset.
Some previews of the chipset got carried away with the exciteing overclocking potentual of the chipset and forgot to clue us in on the USB stuff :)
they are using the Uli southbridge, so any boards that come out from now will have no probs.
Sounds like "bull" to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
I have the same board (mem modded) , mine does a little bit better than Bigtoes.
I gotta finish memtesting and connect it to the three stage.
Bigtoe, are you using two sticks of ram in slot 1 and 2 closest to cpu?
This is good news then :) ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by G0DZILLA
Last I read was maybe they would use ULI's south bridge, but maybe not.
With the USB taken cair of, this sould be a very good chipset.
Old bench that one, things have changed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue078
yes Fugger, I have seen 285 1:1 3-2-2-5 with EB on it but had to move back to DFI testing to help the guys back in TW get the board clocking ram better.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
For all this is full ATX, it has ATI NB and SB and with testing upto now both have no issues. The beta bios is a little buggy but its only a bios issue not a board one.
I firmly believe things are going to get real exciting, you are going to see some real competition with motherboards real soon..;)
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Originally Posted by bigtoe
Ah, so it is the Bullhead, as predicted. It's a great thing and a bad thing that so many good motherboards are coming out. Those who changed from Socket A to the MSI K8N Neo2 must be hitting or inflicting some sort of violence upon themselves, and those who already pre-paid the DFI NF4 are desperately hoping that something will go wrong with this board and that magically it wont perform ad well.
I really don't know what to say apart from the fact that it came too late for many, too late for me in any case. I've been running a bad off-the-shelf P4 1,8ghz for 2 months now, and i really cannot wait yet another month for the board.
At least the DFI does not perform as badly when compared to this ATI than the Asus vs. the DFI.
Well why on earth didnt you just say that in the first place, instead of the wise cracks about something nvidia would say ??? You used to be alot more frendly before you became gods right hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
(this post is completely off-topic, but I couldn't keep my self from saying these two things...
Heh, once a friend of mine asked me to overclock his A64 system and I managed to get 270MHz from an ASRock K8S8X board, with no mods at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
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As for the nVidia SLI, there's nothing they can do to stop an ATi solution from working on their chipsets. SLI is 99% related to the graphics cards (GPU and drivers).
What I don't is that nVidia blocks their video cards & drivers from working SLI-mode on a non-nForce chipset, though it's perfectly possible from a technical point of view, and if you'll remember SLI was first used on an Intel server platform (nForce4 wasn't ready yet). To me that's not a fair thing to do.
From Anandtech" Intrigued by the performance of double-sided DIMMs in dual-channel mode, we asked ATI about the highest performance dual-channel overclocking that they had achieved with the RX480 in their labs. ATI shared results and timings using 2 single-sided 256MB PQI DIMMs at 2.5-4-4-9 1T timings, at a frequency of 313 or DDR616. "
I'm sure that number will come up a bit more once the mobo is in the hands of the enthusiast community. :) Can't wait to find if BH-5 also gets a little bump with this chipset.
Juliette, I also have the DFI NF4 on pre-order. I'm not going to cancel it, but if after a 2-3 months prices on 6800GTs and better have not started dropping down to x800XL MSRP levels, I'll jump ship and take my x800XL (another pre-order) over to the Bullhead. Who knows, if DFI gets spanked by Nvidia for adding the extra 16x slot on their NF4 Ultra (allowing for SLI on the cheap) maybe they'll partner up with ATI, a company that might appreciate their skills.
Yeah, good point. THough i really don't want to change mobo's after 3 months. Looks like I'll just run it, and if i kill it in the process I'll have to get a new one ;) I went for the 6600GT, its just temporary. This MSI was a really lousy overclocker, so i got myself the Gainward card. In Q4 the new cards should be ready and available, we'll see then. From my point of view nVidia has a great architecture in their cards (similar to AMD vs. Intel), and with SLI it's only getting better.Quote:
Originally Posted by gundamit
This Bullhead is obviously a machine when it comes to overclocking. If a refference board can give this performance, I'm scared what DFI could make out of it. If any manufacturer manages to create a motherboard which will be superior to the DFI in every aspect i will most likely get it. However, i doubt this will be case, and the superiority would have to be more than just a few mhz on the FSB to make me spend another $300 on a motherboard. Of course, the idea of 2 ATI cards working together is the most tempting, even though i prefer nVidia's offerings from the technical and practical point of view. I think there is more future in those cards, and the architecture can be adapted relatively easily to ramp the clock speeds further.
Either way, it looks like a battle of the giants here :D
DFI NF4 SLI-DR versus Anonymous ATI Bullhead Motherboard from Unknown Manufacturer.
Seems like the latter of the two might win by a small margin. Anyway, I am interested in the outcome. This battle can only profit us, the consumers :toast:
and some OT to end with ;) bigoteยด, how on earth did you become a representative and beta-tester for DFI/*ATI*/OCZ? There must have been more than just hard work to it... :toast: