where from?Quote:
Originally Posted by celemine1Gig
and any word on the newark core to go with it? i'm looking forward to the newark far more than oakville. i want my full meg of cache :banana:
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where from?Quote:
Originally Posted by celemine1Gig
and any word on the newark core to go with it? i'm looking forward to the newark far more than oakville. i want my full meg of cache :banana:
surel i cant know this but the first FX 90nm might be the FX57......just a guess
whats the newark core? Just a oakville with 1mb of l2 cache? still gonna be 35w?
Just start a google search for these OPNs:Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
AMD2800BKX4LB
&
AMD3000BKX4LB
Then you'll sure find some retailers that already carry the new Oakville CPUs.
All i got was some european site... =|
n/m i did search farther down. they are god aweful expensive though.
Yes, very expensive. And all the stores I've found have been outside of the US. Your best bet would be eBay. I happened to come by one there for $130 shipped.
The only problem is this damn DFI BIOS, w/no microcode support for Oakvilles. I'm trying to recruit someone with BIOS editing experience to add the microcodes. Hopefully we'll be able to find someone who can help out.
woohoo! finally a hope for us poor 754 users. hopefully someone will come out with a BIOS for the K8N Neo Platty for these babies.
another possibility for all the socket 754ers is the sempron 90 nm 3100+, these are now fairly readily available, but I haven't seen any results on OCing yet (would expect them to be good with only 256 kb cache). AMD also has the 3300+ in some computers which runs at 2.4 ghz and 256 l2 kb :banana: :banana:
2.4ghz overclocked isn't awhole lot...not enough to make up for the 256k L2...but not bad non the less....maybe it could make a cheaper D2OL rig....mmmm....
jjcom
He means the Sempron 3300+ is default at 2.4GHz. I am sure a 90nm chip with 256k cache would be able to reach > 2.9GHz....just a guess.
3100 is 1.8ghz....so 3300 would be something like 2ghz....or 2.2ghz tops.
jjcom
The 3300+ is actualy an Athlon64 part with 256kb L2.
Also, looks like I was wrong; the BIOS wasn't to blame.
I pulled one of my memory sticks, and the board booted up! So I put it back in slot two (was originally in slot one) and everything seems to be working fine. Running cooler than my 2800+ Newcastle at the same frequency. How well it will overclock has yet to be seen. I'm verifying stability at default settings now. While it is 90nm, the chip is also a week 30. I'm not expecting to hit clocks like people with week 40s are, but maybe the chip will surprise me.
WOOT my DFI would love some new hardware...
Maybe it will tide me over till pci-e dies down:D
35w sounds tasty:toast: would like to test one out myself.
Does anyone have a link for them in stock? Whats the going price?
Heres the link i found but they are on preorder only for now....
http://www.frontierpc.com/ProductDet...ctID=202760525
If that's how AMD planned to price them, they aren't going to do too well against the better known, similarly priced Centrinos. The 62w 3400+ is going for $250 and most people are getting 2.7ghz with the later steppings. I hope that's just that one website gouging because that's way out of my price range.
i'm not positive, but all indications i've seen is it's basically the 'san diego' with less voltage put into s754 form.Quote:
Originally Posted by kryptobs2000
here's how i break it down in my mind.
san diego is essentially the mother of all the 90nm. 1mb cache and dual channel
venice will be the same thing with 1/2 the cache disabled (if they decide to recover defective san deigo's, more likely you'll end up with a true venice. think back to the clawhammers with 1/2 the cache disabled and they were called newcastles... similar deal)
newark should have all the same specs as the current mobile clawhammers, but 90nm, and the power/voltage drop associated with it.
and reading this thread, everyone should have figured out oakville by now
Pulled from sparco.com, it looks like amd is about to release a slew of 90 nm socket 754 processors, some of which will probably be quite affordable (and will probably have higher multipliers available to them).
Price Avail
SEMPRON 2400+ 1.67GHZ 256K PGA462 SOCKA 333MHZ PIB $68.20
SEMPRON 2500+ 1.75GHZ 256K PGA462 SOCKA 333MHZ PIB $82.37 10
SEMPRON 2600+ 1.83GHZ 256K PGA754 333MHZ PIB $85.34
SEMPRON 2800+ 2.0GHZ 256K PGA754 333MHZ PIB $89.84
SEMPRON 2600+ 1.83GHZ 256K PGA462 SOCKA 333MHZ PIB $93.43 11
SEMPRON 3000+ 2.0GHZ 512K PGA754 333MHZ PIB $106.77
SEMPRON 2800+ 2.0GHZ 256K PGA462 SOCKA 333MHZ PIB $119.22
SEMPRON 2800+ 2.0GHZ 256K PGA462 SOCKA 333MHZ PIB $119.31 214
SEMPRON 3100+ 1.8GHZ 256K PGA754 333MHZ PIB $124.57
SEMPRON 3100+ 1.8GHZ 256KB PGA754 333MHZ PIB $135.03 75
Note all the socket 754 chips listed above have a part number that ends in babox indicating 90 nm, would amd hurry up and release these chips :banana: :banana: :banana: , oh and i can't say for sure but these should have higher multipliers due to a smaller fsb. The only thing I'm really concerned with is whether they are neutered athlon 64 parts or the old thoroughbred B/sempron socket A processors rewired to fit on a socket 754 chip (does any1 know?) the 2800+ should have a 12 multiplier and 2600+ an 11.
This is nearly impossible, thus these are real Socket754 parts. The idea alone is absolute bull. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by socrilles
Those are all Socket A chips but the last two. I think they just messed up on what their calling them. The 3100 is a 1.8ghz part, but runs at 200mhz FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by socrilles
jjcom
I thought they stopped making socket a semprons all together. Are you saying their making 90nm socket a semprons?
yeh socket A cant be suppotred if they are gonna drop 754 in the next year.
when will this newark start showing? and will it be worldwide or only available in europe/us?
yah i realized later about the on-cpu memory controller so they cannot just be socket A's converted, and for the tard up there, that whole pga754 thing means its not socket A but socket 754
also taken from anandtech for AMD's roadmap
Processor Clock Speed Socket Launch Date End of Line
Sempron >= 3500+ ??? Socket 754 Q1'06
Sempron 3400+ ??? Socket 939 Q3'05
Sempron 3400+ ??? Socket 754 Q4'05
Sempron 3300+ ??? Socket 754 Q2'05
Sempron 3200+ ??? Socket 939 Q1'05
Sempron 3200+ ??? Socket 754 Q1'05
Sempron 3100+ 1.8 GHz Socket 754 Now
Sempron 3000+ ??? Socket 939 Q1'05
Sempron 3000+ ??? Socket 754 Q1'05
Sempron 2800+ ??? Socket 754 Q1'05 Q1'06
Sempron 2600+ ??? Socket 754 Q1'05 Q4'05
Sempron 3000+ 2.00 GHz 512K Socket A Now Q3'05
Sempron 2800+ 2.0 GHz Socket A Now Q3'05
Sempron 2600+ 1.83 GHz Socket A Now Q3'05
Sempron 2500+ 1.75 GHz Socket A Now Q3'05
Sempron 2400+ 1.67 GHz Socket A Now Q1'05
Sempron 2300+ 1.58 GHz Socket A Now Q1'05
Sempron 2200+ 1.5 GHz Socket A Now Q1'05
Be nice, and reread what jjcom said:
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjcom
I think someone needs to learn there clock rates before insulting me. Those clock rates their showing for a S754 part are the same clock rate and model number for a socket A chip. S754 Semprons out preform socket A Semprons chips at the same clock rate. This is why I called the info incorrect. Socket A Sempron needs to be at 2ghz with 512k L2 for it to be called 3000+, while a S754 Sempron needs to be at 1.8ghz with 256k L2 for it to be called 3100+.Quote:
Originally Posted by socrilles
jjcom
This is exciting..
:banana:
Ok im just subscribing to this thread.. :)
Sparco's info is pants.
The 2600+ 754 is 1.6GHz with 128KB L2 cache (though Monarch seem to show it as a 256KB L2 cache implying a frequency of 1.4Ghz)
The 2800+ 754 is 1.6Ghz with 256KB L2 cache
The 3000+ 754 is 1.8Ghz with 128GHz L2 cache
The 3100+ 754 is 1.8Ghz with 256KB L2 cache
(all 4 Semprons are now shown on AMD's pricing page)