Awesome we cant let Tom hold the world record :p: Is prescotts longer pipe allowing it to oc better than northwood and gallatin even with the higher cpu temps?
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Awesome we cant let Tom hold the world record :p: Is prescotts longer pipe allowing it to oc better than northwood and gallatin even with the higher cpu temps?
He doesn't hold the world record...
Its 5.3Ghz by Memesama (Northwood)
And these people actually ran some benchmarks, Tom's 5Ghz was just a screenshot...benches at 4.7.
I was on CeBit yesterday and saw both units.
Asetek says their system is stable @ 4,4 Ghz and i belive them, because last year they demonstrate it on Giga TV and it was stable. They also are showing 2 equal system, one on Abit stand and one on ATI stand, both @4,4 GHz. They also told me, they could oc it higher, but unstable and that`s not the goal. Stability is all.
Well Nventiv is showing their system on Asus stand with 5 Ghz on display. No more Info, you can`t look inside the compressor case ( like you can do on vapo LS ), there is no information about this system ( just a little paper saying nothing abot specs ) and there is no person you can talk to :( - The people from asus just show you, that you have to call they department for more info ( well, very unprofessional on a fair ).
About the temperatures :
On Vapo LS there was a Waterchill inside and the temperatures were switching all the time between different temps. This is why maybe someone saw something like 19 or -19°C, i saw -29°C to -32°C. The system was pretty loud.
The Nventiv system showed -39°C on display...
That was what i have seen. Too bad, i couldn`t talk to anyone from Nventiv.
cyas
its quite possible they got a early new stepping prescott too, not saying it is or isn't. if its 5 ghz stable even for £100 more i'd buy it unless of course we find out a ls can do the same with the same chip. its a shame really, the ls is on special offer till end of march and i think i save like £30 or so, not really an issue, doubt we'll see a full comparison between them before then.
hopefully by monday the dude can show us if cpu temps are what we expect with the temps talked about for the mach 2 gt or if htey are much higher than expected and maybe those temps are accurate,
brwmogazos, did you e-mail them and jsut arrange to have one set aside for you, or did they have them up on site at some point?
-39c on a 5Ghz Prescott is hardly believeable...
Well, that was on the LCD Display. Not a CPU temperature.
cpulloverclock
"R404A and -65°C
I dream I dream"
Well on my Mach II GT (yep, don't look at the sig, now i can tell the true name:)) i saw -61C evap temp on 1.6GHz CPU in BIOS screen (cpu temp was around -45C i presume, 'cos ASUS' boards can't indicate under -39.5C, it goes to -111.5C). So maybe at true 0W workload -65C will be ok.
Yep that r404/r507 compressor is just that loud and anyone at a computer show that can say that they thought the cooling unit ran loud with a thousand people screaming and talking in the background is just icing on the cake..Quote:
The system was pretty loud.
Remember the basic design around these units is quiet high performance efficient cooling. Its one thing to hear the fans when set that way via the control software, but when you hear the compressors valve well thats something that you can't fix with software.. I've seen a few people now who saw the Vapo LS display at CeBit who replied that they where surprised by how loud these units run..
Not questioning performance at all here BTW just noise levels. :)
Mine is preordered along with another 4 units iirc :)Quote:
Originally posted by drunkenmaster
its quite possible they got a early new stepping prescott too, not saying it is or isn't. if its 5 ghz stable even for £100 more i'd buy it unless of course we find out a ls can do the same with the same chip. its a shame really, the ls is on special offer till end of march and i think i save like £30 or so, not really an issue, doubt we'll see a full comparison between them before then.
hopefully by monday the dude can show us if cpu temps are what we expect with the temps talked about for the mach 2 gt or if htey are much higher than expected and maybe those temps are accurate,
brwmogazos, did you e-mail them and jsut arrange to have one set aside for you, or did they have them up on site at some point?
they didnt have them in stock at the moment...
what i am wondering about now is if the mach 2 gt will come down in price to compete with the LS...
You are lucky to be able to attend.Quote:
Originally posted by Merenfreak
I was on CeBit yesterday and saw both units.
Asetek says their system is stable @ 4,4 Ghz and i belive them, because last year they demonstrate it on Giga TV and it was stable. They also are showing 2 equal system, one on Abit stand and one on ATI stand, both @4,4 GHz. They also told me, they could oc it higher, but unstable and that`s not the goal. Stability is all.
Well Nventiv is showing their system on Asus stand with 5 Ghz on display. No more Info, you can`t look inside the compressor case ( like you can do on vapo LS ), there is no information about this system ( just a little paper saying nothing abot specs ) and there is no person you can talk to :( - The people from asus just show you, that you have to call they department for more info ( well, very unprofessional on a fair ).
About the temperatures :
On Vapo LS there was a Waterchill inside and the temperatures were switching all the time between different temps. This is why maybe someone saw something like 19 or -19°C, i saw -29°C to -32°C. The system was pretty loud.
The Nventiv system showed -39°C on display...
That was what i have seen. Too bad, i couldn`t talk to anyone from Nventiv.
cyas
You lost me on your statement about believing their 4.4 is stable because of something you saw on TV last year. You can believe anything they say if you want to, but going by their recent history I'd say you'd be wise to question everything they say. I want proof from both companies, I'm not taking anyone's word on this....show me!
Proof is when you get it home, hook it up to your system and specs, and then check and see how it preforms. All the hype at the shows is for sales. Now if they where willing to allow you to play a game of ut2004 or run 3d2001 or aquamark so you could see how they system handles and how the temps change, well that would be a horse of a different color.
Considering the cost of the average phase system most of us can not afford to buy each one and play until we decide on a winner.
Once I see a few reviews from souls like bowman or the dude then I will have a greater insite from informed sources :)
Dude he is either an employee or a fanboy... I tend to ignore their dumb and obivously bias remarks ..Quote:
Originally posted by TheDude
You are lucky to be able to attend.
You lost me on your statement about believing their 4.4 is stable because of something you saw on TV last year. You can believe anything they say if you want to, but going by their recent history I'd say you'd be wise to question everything they say. I want proof from both companies, I'm not taking anyone's word on this....show me!
"I believe X cause I saw them say it a year ago but I don't believe Y cause their sensors can not be 100% accurate.. no sensor truly can be but company X is... I know this cause they said so."
Do you see how dumb you fanboys all sound here????
Give me 3rd party unbias reviews and STFU.
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Originally posted by Tomsawyer
Proof is when you get it home, hook it up to your system and specs, and then check and see how it preforms. All the hype at the shows is for sales. Now if they where willing to allow you to play a game of ut2004 or run 3d2001 or aquamark so you could see how they system handles and how the temps change, well that would be a horse of a different color.
Considering the cost of the average phase system most of us can not afford to buy each one and play until we decide on a winner.
Once I see a few reviews from souls like bowman or the dude then I will have a greater insite from informed sources :)
:toast: ed zachery!!!!! :toast:
I'm loving this competition, cause frankly I win either way :D
Can't wait to get my hands on a Vapochill LS to go with my Lian Li PC75 :up:
P.S. For those of you thinking of scamming companies by trying to return old products instead of the one you bought... I wouldn't do it... friend got busted for attempted larsenry for trying to return an old video card as a new card he bought :eek:
I went with a friend to best buy once, she bought a ti4200 card that they had on sale but I insisted that they open the box in front of us before she left. It was no ti4200 rather a used ge-mx400 that someone had cleaned and swapped.
Neadless to say we got another box which had the ti4200 in it and i think the best buy restockers got a lesson in checking returned products.
Obviously its not the CPU temperature, those are much higher...Quote:
Originally posted by Merenfreak
Well, that was on the LCD Display. Not a CPU temperature.
-39c even on the display on a 5Ghz Prescott Barbeque is hard to believe unless its a modded unit...
Well Im not defending asetek or anything but one of the reasons why they were only able to get 4.4 compared to nventivs 5.0 is because nventiv had JC who knows muych more compared to anyother asetek/nventiv employee. If nventiv didnt have jc they would be in the same range as asetek but im glad that they do have him. Good old JC will set them straight :toast:
They also had a .09 processor, where Asetek had a .13.....Quote:
Originally posted by Phyrox
Well Im not defending asetek or anything but one of the reasons why they were only able to get 4.4 compared to nventivs 5.0 is because nventiv had JC who knows muych more compared to anyother asetek/nventiv employee. If nventiv didnt have jc they would be in the same range as asetek but im glad that they do have him. Good old JC will set them straight :toast:
whats up aoc007 mate....:toast:Quote:
Whats up evil_raver its nice to see another raver that likes xtreme ocing and hardware.
i wonder how many of us are here....;)
You can order up to 20 of these in the drop down box, in US dollars that would only set you back 30 grand :toast:
When someone gets one, if they have an original prommy mach 2 and know someone with the Asetek Light Speed, get them set up and have some bench comparisons :)
Would be in interesting IMHO.
damn 1,500 bux for the gt? well thats at least on area the ls wins in..................
True but hopefully LS is close in performance terms :)Quote:
Originally posted by megahurtz-oc
damn 1,500 bux for the gt? well thats at least on area the ls wins in..................
Ravers speak up and unite!Quote:
Originally posted by evil_raver
whats up aoc007 mate....:toast:
i wonder how many of us are here....;)
For that much money nventiv had better deliver some awesome cooling...
Where is that price coming from for the GT? I have $988 usd