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Today is finally the right time to part II, test with AMD Vishera FX
INTRODUCTION
After a long time I finally got to the being playing with the new processor Vishera FX. Generally processor rather exceeded my expectations. His performance in practice is everywhere higher than the Zambezi FX and also improved the potential for clocking and of course due to the power consumption of the MHZ clock. I'm quite pleased with the power consumption after considerable overclocking, which is actually quite a bit lower.
Roughly speaking, the new FX processor at the same clock offers a 3-25% higher performance than the previous generation of FX processor. In the most common case, the differences of about 10-15%. That's not bad for a simply architecture refresh on the same production process. The processor has been in the eye only these tiny changes and I think that has been streamlined many processes (bugs removed) from the previous concept. Even this, however, counts, and so Vishera Bulldozer is already more capable the bulldozer to the masses.
But now let's take the motherboard Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z, a description of you may have read two months ago, it is in principle perhaps the very best piece of hardware processors Bulldozer for Vishera I uploaded already newer BIOS, otherwise the set is fully identical.
http://i.imgur.com/JuZau.jpg
selection Test
I tested on these programs. Unfortunately, for reasons of time, I got more demanding, but all the practical tests, we were able to see some world-class reviews ( example www.hardware.fr ). Even so, I have included several graphs to compare and Vishera Zambezi FX to their default values and then after maximum "stable" overclocking. Individual tests include benchmarks:
Memory subtests: Aida64, MaxxMem
Calculation of pi: very oldschool superpi 16M, newer wprime 32M a 64M, older PiFast aka Hexus, modern MaxxPI a System stability tester used two methods by focusing on one core.
3Dmarky a games test: 3D06, 3Dvantage, 3D11, DosBox, Unigine Heaven DX11
Rendering: Cinebench R10, Cinebench R11.5, POV-Ray 3.7
Video: x264 4.0, x264 FHD
CPU complex test: Fritzchess benchmark, CPU 3Dmark Vantage, Physics 3Dmark 11, Geekbench, UCbench
Working with files compression and decompression: Winrar 4.20, 7-zip
Graphs
So first joint charts, where both FXs side by side...
3Dmark 11 –purely score for the processor
http://i.imgur.com/0DgHw.png
Memory subtests in AIDA64, more MB/s is better
http://i.imgur.com/EhWvm.png
Rendering in POV-Ray
http://i.imgur.com/cnTXq.png
Elderly x87 SuperPi (interesting that I came to you the result of default better for Vishera, though SuperPi is Vishera processor for some unknown reason, or worse your efficiencyu)
http://i.imgur.com/7PE7e.png
The greater part, however, graphs associates Vishera look at the results on nominal settings against a maximum overclocking.
CPU score
http://i.imgur.com/5lIPL.png
You have full 3DMark tests and results
http://i.imgur.com/6PjcU.png
Memory test MaxxMem in bandwith GB/s
http://i.imgur.com/lLn7N.png
Scores in Cinebench R10 for one and all working and computational benchmark kernels Nuclearus.
http://i.imgur.com/GAx1C.png
A tak? novějš? Cinebench R11.5
http://i.imgur.com/d62Ws.png
Complex test Geekbench a Fritzchess
http://i.imgur.com/Fk00b.png
SuperPi may be counted as using other alternatives. System Stability Tester can do it through one or more cores and with different way ... MaxxPi loaded with all cores and utilizes the newer instructions, there was a meaningful calculation of the 8M places.
http://i.imgur.com/vjoXE.png
Wprime loads all cores, PiFast was not ...
http://i.imgur.com/97UBU.png
Ucbench used to calculate both brute force and in podv?počtu then some newer SSE instructions
http://i.imgur.com/i0gBV.png
DosBox uses very low resolution benchmark Quake1 is thus dependent on brute force single core CPU without much optimization. Unigine Heaven running on the contrary, FHD resolution with DX11.
http://i.imgur.com/aqmRC.png
Winrar and 7-zip indicate the strength of compression and decompression. This is after OC, especially with 7-zip, really huge.
http://i.imgur.com/Wq3V6.png
http://i.imgur.com/GvKKx.png
X264 in the second passage is representative videoencoding
http://i.imgur.com/fVROA.png
Overclocking
Overclocking is a chapter that offers most of the articles also often differs term "stability" as well as the methodology of determining stability. I think it is not strictly necessary to worry processor 10h in the most brutal tests of stability. Stability is for me to state computer assembly from the perspective of the user, in any application where there are no crashes, restarts and OS freezing after a period of use. For some it may be constantly running Folding @ Home, for another 3h PRIME95 and for some stability in online games ... I tested the 30min AMD Overdrive stability test. From my perspective, this is a very Uptake test, where you can select different parts of load that we want to test or classically tick everything and have a complete test stability
The alpha and omega of AMD processor temperature. Still I have to repeat over and over and temperature, temperature, temperature. If we follow Coretemp, FX cores temperature should not exceed the long term value of 70 ? C (this is in reality the CPU still around 85!). The following, however, we keep the temperature the better. Example. The default settings and low overclocking we can afford to keep the temperature and 70C will see without instability. But if we on the maximum of the CPU clock, there us already this temperature can limit. 4.9 GHz and a temperature of 70 C does not bode well for a while everything will be okay, gradually we will see probably error. However, if at the same clock and voltage reaches a temperature knock to 60 C, I'm sure that the processor will be fully stable. It must be really good cooling - high quality cooler with pushl-pull fan (the bigger the flow, the better) and sprite or mainstream allinone like Corsair H70 etc.
Because of this I got to the beautiful 5010 MHz! It could indeed take over, and 4950 MHz to put the clock tuning, where temperatures are not as much of a problem. It is a higher average, but on the internet I've seen a few better.
The overclocking is also related small chapter I love above all, and the maximum overclock for benchmarks. Here I got an additional 200 MHz up Cinebench I even went through with efforts to 5240 MHz! Below is a short video jerky quality (probably nerves as I was tight :)) and below some pictures.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SFJVH9AZmw
http://i.imgur.com/HaZUb.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tAcYN.jpg
Undervolting at stock clocks
Not as we see chapter of undervolting. And with the attendant decrease in consumption. For many, it is more interesting than the actual overclocking. And also because he devoted an integral part of the text and images. As you can see in the first picture in the load voltage declined in CPU-Z at 1212 V.
http://i.imgur.com/2zhNp.jpg
Another image is already the completed 30-minute state of stability, I opened it AI Suite II to see realistically set voltage to the load, the idle voltage shown in CPU-Z (but I do not know why the new CPU-Z does not appear here podtaktov?n? cores ...) . What is even more interesting and beneficial of undervolting is sometimes higher performance! This is due to the fact that the frequency of the processor in the base varies between 4000-4200 MHz and is subject to TDP of CPU. The lower voltage consumption is obviously reduced and thus the load is often a multi-threaded processor 4100 MHz frequency.
http://i.imgur.com/1z3su.jpg
Power consumption
And how everything is reflected in consumption? Meant, what is the consumption in the base, and when overclockingor undervolting ground state? Well.
http://i.imgur.com/dDHBj.png
Among states in idled are not significant differences. Approximately 3W savings even worth mentioning. Basically, the entire assembly during exercise tells about 232 W. After overclocking over the 5 GHz consumption increased, but the processor is not as uncomfortable hungry as FX Zambezi. Consumption grew by "only" 83W! This is about more than 70W less than the FX-8150 at a frequency of about 4880 MHz with the same line-up! If the processor to operate default values of frequencies, we are able to save with undervolting decent 36W. With longer tweaking of CPU voltage VDD and CPUNB would be still some Watts knocked down. All, of course, also depends on the length of the processor.
Crosshair combo with Vishera FX-8300 can be recommended to all fans who are looking for maximum platform at AMD. The board will delight stability, widgets (fastboot, diretckey, post display, etc.), software, build quality and components fitted, fully digital cascade (DRAM and CPU), processor FX-8350 offers very good indeed multithreaded performance and respectable single thread, finally overcomes him with confidence Phenom II (mainly in practical use and gaming). Is definitely a huge plus overclock with good cooling and definitely my plus earn significantly lower power consumption for overclocking than the last bulldozer.
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Excellent review!
Would you say this setup could run @ 5240 MHz permanently?
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no, I wrote about it...Max stable is 5 GHz, 5240 MHz is only benchable for some benchmarks, validation up to 5500 MHz
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Lapped heat spreader maybe?
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it not helping much...But we will see, stil I have it at benchtable with MX4, next weekend I will change chip to my workstation with liquid ultra :)
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My second FX-8350 is really awesome! 1.565V in BIOS, 1.35V CPU/NB, I tried quickly validation and I was shocked:thumb:... The best FX I ever seen. Cooling is only AMD liquid cooler, so nothing special.
http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1163108/
http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1163109/
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2607102
I got more with the same voltage (5734 MHz, but validation was wrong :( ). This chip could be interesting with LN2 :)
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Great write-up FlanK3r and grats on the new chip!
Looks like you're going to out-perform your last chip by a significant margin.
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I was shcoked, this chip must be 8 Ghz+ :)
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How looking PC station for 5711 MHz (second chip) with 1.565V at CPU? Nothing special!
http://i.imgur.com/d4kRx.jpg
Yesterday me with friend frozed my first Vishera chip (validation "only" 5510 MHz with 1.575V) with LN2...Looks not bad :)... Playing Quake III more than one hour with 6 GHz for people and max. clock was finally broked :)
http://i.imgur.com/N8Ihl.jpg
And one from few screenshots
http://i.imgur.com/rdKOE.jpg
If I remember right, we got about 8100 MHz with this voltage. After Christmas I take some time for LN2 and I tried the best what I could do :-).
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The best, what I and froxic can save with core 0/1 was this. We got over 8000 MHz with core 2+3 (something about 8040-8050), but we have only photo...
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/2610620.png
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2610620
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Now my FX-8320. I tested with the same settings as both FX-8350s. First, I finding validation only with 1.565V. I tried cores 0-1, 2-3 etc. The best looking at this FX-8320 0+1 and 5+6.
Near 5500 MHz, is it about 100 MHz worse than FX-8350-1 (LN2 8GHz+) and 200 MHz worse than FX-8350-2
http://i.imgur.com/PgkgQ.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2611144
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Quick question my set up same as your but cinebench 11.5 is showing 4C/8T instead of 8C/8T. Got mine stable @ 5ghz with 1.48v watercool.
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what are temps at those volts of 1.56v fx-8350 on yur antec 920 watercooler?
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in Coretemp about 55-56 C (so in real about 70-75C)
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Yes, Finally I got some record after long time :)...I tried the worse from my 2 FX-8350s for LN2, but both are good with air/liquid cooling. This one can get 5600 MHz with 1.565V for validation and about 5 GHz full stability. Second one is in safe for some time...But its devil... 5750 MHz 1.565V. It could be better than this one "record holder" FX. So, what is now Czech+SK record in frequency? There is it!
http://i.imgur.com/slTO5.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2648344
http://i.imgur.com/H726c.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/R4dxV.jpg
FX-8350, Asus C5F-Z, G.Skill TridentX 2400 MHz, AX 1200W, Sf3d pot and IKEA table for benchtable :D
http://youtu.be/ERDUH8w9uRY
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Congrats Flank3r.... :clap::clap::clap:
When I first looked at your pics I thought you had a cup of "Ice Water" sitting on top of your cpu... :p:
Lots of v's but 8.14 is really impressive!
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Nice job FlanK3r!
Very interesting LN2 pot :P I normally use this thing for beer :D
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hehe, is it of beer - originally.
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U should do christian ney like binning,get 200+ 8350 and find the best ones,surely hit 8.5-8.6 ghz :D
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And some benchmarks? I know, superpi and others x87 old benchmarks are not fine for FX chips, but still are the most populated benchmarks of overclockers...So some superpi and Pifast please :)
http://i.imgur.com/cKIRo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/r18Cv.jpg
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3rd FX-8350 :), not bad for AMD FX liquid cooler and 20C ambients :)))
I love Vishera :)...,next chip looks similar as my second chip for validation. There is a bit higher result, but I used here more voltage than at my second chip...But this chip is good with all cores. I was suprised :) So, lets go!
Validation 1.575V = 5743 MHz !!!!
http://i.imgur.com/oNnXFJG.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2658280
Cinebench R11.5 at 5295 MHz with 1.55V!
http://i.imgur.com/N9GfYbQ.jpg
And with many and many try I got finally over 5300 MHz Cinebench :) 5321 MHz and 9.17 points
http://i.imgur.com/9iasmCD.jpg
And finally few Superpi 1M benchmarks
http://i.imgur.com/5aVU3fp.jpg
Look at CPUNB there, over 2700 MHz
http://i.imgur.com/B37qnXP.jpg
With lower CPUNB I got the same result at higher CPU frequency (5478 MHz)
http://i.imgur.com/jDFTKNB.jpg
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What batch is your 3rd Vishera? Looks a good one! :up:
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again the same, 1229pgn ,-) I was suprised, I booted at 2700 MHz CPUNB to windows :)
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nice nice job bro! and nice chip there as i say you