Most of that looks like the plating has been eroded by the flow rate, really doubt it's corrosion.
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Most of that looks like the plating has been eroded by the flow rate, really doubt it's corrosion.
well i guess this 655 is no joke, eh? but still i feel the prognosis is dim here for some reason. it looks like :banana::banana::banana::banana:. can i put this in a loop on a good rad? or is it trash? but wth should it erode like this?
Your fine with copper/brass rads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Computurd
Water carved the Grand Canyon, you think a little nickel plating stands a chance? ;)
lol dude big sigh of relief.:worship:
now to put this back together...jesus you know how hard thats gonna be now that i look at it?:explode:
should i give it a good clean with some ketchup first? or just leave it as is?
and just for clarification it should be good with this BIPS and swiftech stacker i have?
Cleaning is going to depend on how much it's going to bug you if you don't. ;)
Yeah, you'll be fine with those.
Let me guess: there's copper in the loop, and no anti-corrosion additive was added?
In a loop with copper and nickel, the nickel will be corroded... ;)
These 12xxML mips blocks were never intended to be used on 1880 cards. So as mentioned you'll have to start your dremel to get the job done.Quote:
But dude.. MIPS = FAIL in this solution. Sorry SiX, this block just doesnt work.
Anyway it was fun to do and I guess that's what counts, isn't it? ;)
Finally today I had some time to get the blocks ready.
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7707/foto938.jpg http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1400/foto933.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8776/foto934l.jpg http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4691/foto939.jpg
But of course you can also use some heatsinks. :ROTF:
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8306/foto936m.jpg
Baldux i hate you. you totally stole my thunder.
that is beautiful. an excellent job! your looks so much better than mine will, i am only going with one block.
great job! wow impressive. where did you get those ram HS and how did you apply them?
also, how much of a drop have you noticed on your expander? not sure if its worth a WB, there isnt one available for a few weeks, and that may just keep me from getting one if the copper HS works fine.
Thanks, I'm also glad it has come out fine. Planned this for quite a while but was too lazy to execute it till today. :)
Block cover plates have been polished and nickel plated again, just to fit other blocks.
The mips stock plating is very dull but for some blocks they newly offer polish and high-grade nickel plating. Guess one has just too ask.
The heatsinks are Enzotech MOS-C10, just nickel plated. I've not really attached them to the ram chips. It was more a joke as those aren't getting that hot.
Iirc the hs already come with pre-cut adhesive 3M 8815 thermal pads. I'll use the hs for my mobo.
For sure a hs is sufficient for the expander, altough I've not measured air temps before.
Anyhow the waterblock is more for looks as those chips should be able to run stable up to 90°C-100°C and you'll not reach this under standard use if there's only one fan around.
Will take some time till the block will be going under water as at the moment I need my working machine 24/7.
:confused: First I'm hearing of this? :confused:;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Joe
If this were the case, there would be a whole lot more ppl screaming bloody murder. Fact is, copper and nickel get along just fine. :fact:
so i am placing this pic for your thoughts guys...to the few who are reading LOL.....the size of this copper HS is much smaller than the original Areca one. (fun fact, it has areca etched down on the base plate below the pins. why i have no idea you cant see it unles you are staring directly into the HS)
back to the issue, the smaller copper on is well, smaller! do you think it will dissipate heat well enough? i know the areca definitely is not copper, as it is way lighter.
http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u...2-56-13176.jpg
Without a fan (even a small one) that copper going to get H...O...T...not because of the smaller size but, rather the better transfer rate.
I probably would have opted for the version with the fan built it and under volted it but, yeah...it'll work well.
yea i agonized over this, but this caught my eye:
seems a bit loud, eh? for such a small fan? i have some real tiny fans though that is real quiet i used on a classy NB so that might work i can get that on thar if need be i guess..Quote:
anufacturer: Adda
Size: 35x35x6 mm
Part #: AD3512MB-K73S
Volts: 12v DC
Current: 0.06 amp
Power: 0.72 watt
RPM: 8000
CFM: 4.7
Noise: 28 dB(A)
bought the spacer for the block btw, and that was a total no-go. was too thick so i busted out the dremel and looks like :banana::banana::banana::banana: but its functional enough.
got the gentle typhoons in and man it was like losing virginity hooking that up about an hour ago....man they are just beautiful. when they just kept spinning and spinning after like thirty seconds after i turned them off i was just setting there in awe. my my my what a beautiful fan!
Funny you should bring it up. I just did this to a 15mm Delta (wish I'd wrote the number down:() for a FX5500 (that had a dead fan) for an old Shuttle I'm reviving. Hacked the Delta out of the frame and stuck it to the sink with some 3M 8815. Cut the plug off the dead fan and soldered it to a small round breadboard I got from RadioShack. I then wired up a 1KΩ .75W trim pot to be able to tune it to a noise level that what was somewhat palatable and provided enough cooling power.
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1867/sn150949.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9339/sn150950.jpg
I can take better detailed pics if your interested.
hmm only thig is that is probably way above my skill level with electronics. i knwo nothing of soldering, and hooking into a cards electrical source like that is something i dunno if i would be able to do...the areca does have a fan header on it btw :) but i do not think you can adjust the fan output. i have never used it. also though there is a fan header that is right there on the mobo. that is an awesome mod though that is cool.
i do have these small fans handy though...some are real old school, i was driving along and seen a garage sale of all things with bunches of computer gear. stopped and snapped up some goodies, but here are the fans im working with and a small round fan (blue one) that i find interesting, i found two of them. i wouldn't use it on the card though for sure! i am probably going to use the one closest to the copper HS on the pic as it has the smallest spindle in the middle, so i imagine it will have the best airflow. that one actaully came off 680i NB. will also have to do some db 'testing' with each i guess
http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u...0-14-42947.jpg
I wouldn't underestimate those Sunon's you have there (those look like some sort of Maglev version). I have some old 120 x 38 Sunons (KD1212PMB3-6A) they say run @ 2400 RPM and push 84CFM, both are probably true...@ 6.6V. When I dial all the way up, I get 11.8V to the fan and it's spinning @ 3700RPM and who knows how much air (pressure could be better though).
yea the little barstids push some serious air, but they whine worse than my 14 yr old daughter:p:
hmmm gonna have to see what kinda justice i can get with some pwm/analogue on the tbalancer. i will have one free fan channel and it seems some to waste it on a tiny fan such as this....however, i also can put a digital sensor right on that copper beastie and run a curve on it, might be able to keep the screaming down except when benching. wont need too much pressure, there isnt much restriction there :) when i do some PCMark Vantage runs that raid card gets so hot you can cook eggs on it....i mean you can feel the heat radiating off it when its under 8 ssd load. will be interesting, very fun to play with! cleaned up the ek fullboard block and have a kmp-400 on it right now leak testing. your right that washer kept popping out took me over an hour.:bsod:
They get along just fine in the short run, but in the long run the nickel gets corroded...Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
however, i really doubt this is erosion due to the abrasive force of the cooling fluid. theres no particles in water, and the flowrate is pretty low, even with a d5...
To this, there is only one proper response...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Joe
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/7484/facepalmw.gif
actually i dont think its going to get that hot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
Because the transfer is better, so is disipation.
So unless he has like 0 rate of air flow in there, even something small would still keep that sink in check.
And OP, yes, that copper sink is better then the ALU.
Its about Mass, which weigh's more?
Im fairly sure the Copper sink still weighs more.
Lastly if ur in doubt on your KL block, Email Tim and ask him, is this normal?
well the copper is WAY heavier. i feel that it will dissipate and conduct better for sure.
as to the block, i really will go with WL theory. i cleaned it up and whatnot, all of the 'damage' isnt even skin-deep so to say. i mean it is very superficial, so long term i dont think it will cause an issue. i already have it together and it just completed 12 hour leak test, so i will put it on a loop and then test for another 24 hours, if its good then off we go!
cant wait to get started finally i have *almost* everything i need to finish so i am doing some heavy duty stuff today.
Yeah im sure the enzo will work a lot better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Computurd
The only way u can cheat mass is via heat pipes because ur using a submedium inside the pipes.
Or change to a heavier metal with better conductivity, like silver, or to carbon nano tubes.. but then good luck removing the heat from the tubes.
I would have gone two of these:
http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...?product_id=87
in one block, then to the next, the out the 2nd block :yepp:
& before anyone cries foul on the tube size..: :rolleyes:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=147767
besides, for said application, its plenty :up:
edit: tho I must say, that MIPS block is haaawt! :slobber:
mine is not as shiny, i didnt know you could have them plated/buffed. i still like it though :) copper HS might be temporary. we will see how temps do.
http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u...3-09-14380.jpg
thats so darn XTREME :D shame on u posting such poor qual pics! :p: :slapass: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Computurd
:up:
just in case I missed it, what are ur temps now? :)