NVIDIA 3D Vision Surround Drivers Now Available

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Originally Posted by orangekiwii

"lol...I love trolls :slap:"



For someone so mature, sophisticated, intelligent, and clearly in-the-know about everything multi-monitor, I'm surprised your refined argument is so immature, childish, and indicative of all the things you accuse me of.

You never did... I never said you did either. Just you stated it makes playing much easier. Which seems silly because I'm confident I'm a better player than you without the 'ease' of having lots of money to spend on a monitor.


As for Nvidia 3d vision, I've always wanted to try it but didn't feel like dropping the money on a monitor thats a downgrade from the one I have currently. I wish there was a way to try it easily.

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You may be a better player than me even with my ability to more easily spot targets. But what makes you so confident that you are a better player? You can judge someones skill at a game by what they post in a forum? :slap:

And I never said I know everything there is to know about anything. I've only stated my observations of what I was seeing and provided the screen shots showing as much.

As for downgrading your monitor well, yes and no. Yes I downgraded from a 24" 1920x1200 monitor to 20.1" 1680x1050 monitor but I have 3 20.1" 1680x1050 monitors. It was well worth it. While the individual screen size may be smaller you have to remember you have 3 of them and it more than compensates for it. I would have just gone with 2 more 24" monitors but 2 things were stopping me: 1) my desk would barely be able to fit them and 2) the cost of just adding 2 more 24" monitors to match the one I already had was more expensive than all 3 of the 20.1" monitors I now have. So I sold the 24" and haven't looked back since.

I have three monitors here waiting to mod but do not have time ATM to even hook them up. Plan to have this mod ready by PAX?
http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/51/dsc02396r.jpg

thats the same expression a cat gives when its about to pee on something

CraptacularOne, sorry we got off on the wrong foot. I'm just bewildered a 5870 gets 60+ at all times (you sure it doesn't drop below? I can't stand the fps lag in bc2 as it makes mouse sensitivity lower).

As for better player, I'm semi-pro :)


I for one can't get three monitors, I only have room for 'maybe' two 20" on my desk, and as far as I'm concerned, having a bezel go right through the center of the screen is far from ideal.




Darth, does the cat go with the monitors? Guaranteed win-button, drop some catnip by 'accident' near your opponents 'mouse' and watch :)

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Originally Posted by Rock&Roll

I'm not sure one needs to expect a renaissance because of triple head gaming. It's really in the eye of the beholder. A pure pragmatist is going to look at those two screenshots and see that they show the same quantity of action. While there are some games where the outer two screens really do give you feedback and action, the list is not long.

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Well if the list is not long, maybe you could post it? :D (sorry for being an ass)

Yes, those particular screenshots don't show much action on the side monitors - they were selected for convenience in composing my post. I guess I should've posted screenshots of GRID or L4D or NFS Shift or Batman or Prototype or Fuel or Dirt 2 or Bioshock or Metro 2033 or Devil May Cry IV or or or etc. Fact is, posting screenshots of multimonitor gaming is like showing someone a picture of the Grand Canyon and expecting them to really "get it". I guess I was foolish in doing so. :shakes:

But, for the sake of argument (which there now appears to be no shortage of in this thread!), lets assume that no currently published game has ANYTHING useful rendered in the periphery. Would your "pragmatist" argue that the hardware is useless or "gimmicky"? Would your "pragmatist" have taken a similar position on multicore processors when they first appeared, because the list of software utilizing multiple processors was "short"?

IMO, anyone poo-pooing this technology is pissing against the wind. Apparently there's some clever guys at AMD and nVidia who seem to think there's a future in it. With the backing of the major players, game publishers will get on board with multimonitor - and yes there will be a renaissance!

EDIT: Looks like things can bee taken a little too far. Check out this Frankenstein setup using SoftTH + Eyefinity.

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Originally Posted by orangekiwii

CraptacularOne, sorry we got off on the wrong foot. I'm just bewildered a 5870 gets 60+ at all times (you sure it doesn't drop below? I can't stand the fps lag in bc2 as it makes mouse sensitivity lower).

As for better player, I'm semi-pro :)


I for one can't get three monitors, I only have room for 'maybe' two 20" on my desk, and as far as I'm concerned, having a bezel go right through the center of the screen is far from ideal.

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No worries, it's just the internetz..:p:

It may go below 60fps here and there but not for long and as I said my results are far from scientific. When I was playing I would glance over at the fps and it was usually way above 60. I was honestly surprised myself at the performance and is why I grabbed the screens showing the fps.

As for skill, I'm no pro or semi pro, I'm just an average gamer. I'm far from bad though my K/D is around 1.79. I would honestly say my K/D has improved with 3 monitor gaming though. It really is a lot easier to spot targets with a wider aspect ratio. I'm sure if you're a semi pro you'd agree after experiencing it. Having a massive view field makes it harder for enemies to flank you too.

I agree that a bezel in the center screen is a bad idea but with 3 monitors you only have bezels on the sides. And really after you start playing you hardly notice them. The slight annoyance they present is easily forgiven with the increased view you have of the horizon.

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Originally Posted by orangekiwii

CraptacularOne, sorry we got off on the wrong foot. I'm just bewildered a 5870 gets 60+ at all times (you sure it doesn't drop below? I can't stand the fps lag in bc2 as it makes mouse sensitivity lower).

As for better player, I'm semi-pro :)


I for one can't get three monitors, I only have room for 'maybe' two 20" on my desk, and as far as I'm concerned, having a bezel go right through the center of the screen is far from ideal.




Darth, does the cat go with the monitors? Guaranteed win-button, drop some catnip by 'accident' near your opponents 'mouse' and watch :)

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my personal experience with BC2 and a single 5870 at 5292x1050 is that frame rates are around 40-50 with stock clocks on the 5870. Crossfire helps gain about 10-15 frames in this game, if your system doesn't stutter with CF (mine doesn't).

That frankenstein rig is just.....unusable :p: But really, what I'd like to see with eyefinity/surround is this: A single (40" or so) landscape monitor working with 3072x1920 (16:10) or 3414x1920 (16:9) resolution flanked by two 24" 1920x1200 monitors in portrait.

You'd get less bezel interference in surround, and if your game/app sucks in surround, you're still left with one hell of a big center monitor.

1x 2560x1600 flanked by 1600x1200's

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Originally Posted by STEvil

1x 2560x1600 flanked by 1600x1200's

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Not possible with NV surround. All displays have to be the same resolution.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dv-sys...echnology.html

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Originally Posted by CraptacularOne

Not possible with NV surround. All displays have to be the same resolution.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dv-sys...echnology.html

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Not possible yet anyways

ditched my 5870 for a pair of gtx470s and I am pretty impressed with Nvidia's multi-monitor implementation.. so far so good.. easy to setup, performs well, seems very stable so far also.. fingers x'd keeps on acting like that. :)

Btw, in regards to the BC2 comments, I'm not surprised that a 5870 can drive triple monitor at 60fps+. BC2 is a way more cpu bound than gpu, my 4870 512mb could run BC2 with everything on high/no AA/no HBAO at 1920x1200 res very well.

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Originally Posted by CraptacularOne

lol...I love trolls :slap:

Go back under the rock you crawled out from ok?

Aww does somebodies ego hurt? Those were the fps I was seeing with my setup. I had this argument before when I stated the performance I was getting. The numbers in the screen are there for you to see. I'm not making them up.

And now you want to play me? Where in this thread did I state that I was the best BFBC2 player? I just said it makes things a lot easier to see and spot targets with multi monitor. Calm down with your nerd rage junior :rolleyes:

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You are the one posting very immature comments and trolling.

You are also rejecting deductive reasoning.

Let's start with some base facts.

GTX480 stock > 5870 stock.

At maximum details in BC BF2 at 1920x1200 with a stock GTX480, it does not have a minimum FPS of 60. Therefore, the same can be said about a 5870 as it is a slower card. Granted yours is overclocked, but that wouldn't cause a massive increase in performance, the FPS boost would be in the single digits.

Now, based on the previously established facts that a GTX480 at 1920x1200 on maximum details in BC BF2 does not maintain a minimum FPS of 60, and that the 5870 is slower than the GTX480 (an overclock won't turn the tides of the final conclusion), it can be easily deduced that a 5870 (even overclocked) will not maintain a minimum FPS of 60 at maximum details at 5040x1050, when the GTX480 fails to do this at 1920x1200.

That is pushing more than DOUBLE the number of pixels as a GTX480 running at 1920x1200, which doesn't have a minimum FPS of 60.

Also are you using 4xAA? That still isn't very clear.

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Originally Posted by ElSel10

You are the one posting very immature comments and trolling.

You are also rejecting deductive reasoning.

Let's start with some base facts.

GTX480 stock > 5870 stock.

At maximum details in BC BF2 at 1920x1200 with a stock GTX480, it does not have a minimum FPS of 60. Therefore, the same can be said about a 5870 as it is a slower card. Granted yours is overclocked, but that wouldn't cause a massive increase in performance, the FPS boost would be in the single digits.

Now, based on the previously established facts that a GTX480 at 1920x1200 on maximum details in BC BF2 does not maintain a minimum FPS of 60, and that the 5870 is slower than the GTX480 (an overclock won't turn the tides of the final conclusion), it can be easily deduced that a 5870 (even overclocked) will not maintain a minimum FPS of 60 at maximum details at 5040x1050, when the GTX480 fails to do this at 1920x1200.

That is pushing more than DOUBLE the number of pixels as a GTX480 running at 1920x1200, which doesn't have a minimum FPS of 60.

Also are you using 4xAA? That still isn't very clear.

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By looking at the screenshots he posted i'm going to say no AA or 2X, not that it really matters since you should be paying more attention to gameplay than how many triangles are on the blade of grass next to the guy you're shooting.

As to the performance numbers, well i'm gonna say maybe we should look into how the exact numbers have been achieved in what you are using to compare with the numbers being shown. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ight=benchmark

I wish I would have bought 120Mhz monitors now instead of 60 lol...oh well. ATI doesn't even do 3D yet. I am sure the 6000 series will but until then I will just be stuck with eyefinity.

@ ElSel10, the only thing I'm rejecting is your notion that you have any idea you know what you are talking about :rolleyes: The only game I mentioned that I was running 4xAA in was Dirt 2. BFBC2 was run at 2xAA in the screens I posted. Furthermore where in this thread did I say the fps was minimum 60? I said it was 60+. I suggest you go back a actually READ what I wrote before you spout off nonsense and making :banana::banana::banana::banana: up :slap:

if your a pro or semi pro, you dont use visual candy, you turn it all down to remove distractions and increase fps.

Then BC2 is runable with eyefinity using a single 5850.
overclocked ofc.
5760x1050.

noobs plays using visual candy if you ask me.
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is 3d vision only for 3d or it includes normal play +3d if you wanna go 3D?

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Originally Posted by CraptacularOne

3 monitor gaming is awesome and you really should check it out of you can. I got all 3 of my monitors for under $300 total. Just keep an eye out for deals and snag them when you see a good deal.

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well... i got my current 22" 1920x1080 samsung when the financial crysis hit hard for around 120$ :D

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Originally Posted by DarthBeavis

I have three monitors here waiting to mod but do not have time ATM to even hook them up. Plan to have this mod ready by PAX?
http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/51/dsc02396r.jpg

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nice :D what mod? remove bezels? :D :D

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Originally Posted by CraptacularOne

@ ElSel10, the only thing I'm rejecting is your notion that you have any idea you know what you are talking about :rolleyes: The only game I mentioned that I was running 4xAA in was Dirt 2. BFBC2 was run at 2xAA in the screens I posted. Furthermore where in this thread did I say the fps was minimum 60? I said it was 60+. I suggest you go back a actually READ what I wrote before you spout off nonsense and making :banana::banana::banana::banana: up :slap:

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The way I was interpreting it was that you were saying it maintained a minimum FPS of 60, and you had mentioned 4xAA for one game, but then no more mentioned it again and I was unsure whether it was that one game, or all of them. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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Originally Posted by flopper

if your a pro or semi pro, you dont use visual candy, you turn it all down to remove distractions and increase fps.
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noobs plays using visual candy if you ask me.
;)

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I can't help but smirk when people use the word "professional" and "gamer" in the same sentence. I know it's real and people make money from it, but still.

"Son, get off that game! You've been playing it all day! Not now mom, I'm a professional!" :p:

@Darth, wth is that R2D2ish looking thingy.