Dumo's MSI 890FX GD70

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05-30-2010, 12:03 PM
FlanK3r

this thread is co good crazy....3300+ MHz NB ?!!! 4700MHz superpi, RAMs...
05-30-2010, 01:51 PM
runnin17

I have to say; I am impressed with the MSI board from reading this thread. I thought the board was much slower than the CHIV at first, but it looks to handle itself quite well. I still am partial to Asus over MSI, but I can't say the MSI is terrible. If I wasn't waiting for the CHIV Extreme I would have a tough decision between the Formula and the GD70.
05-31-2010, 10:51 AM
Mad222

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
If I read this thread earlier, I would have gone for 4.952GHz & PI1m @ 4.72GHz. Now, I'm 2MHz behind you...ok, I need to catch up then !

It was sooooooo entertaining....1st with namegt & now with you, Chew :up:

My pleasure....:D

Oh...BTW, have you heard about the little bug from an AMD article about Thuban running 1333 scale ?

MSI GD70 is the next mobo I'll test ;)

See you tomorrow ! need to go to beeeeed !

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

I usually don't take air benching to seriously or get competitive but my buddy mad22 is making my life difficult raising the bar all the time. :up:

Madd I will see your 4.9 and raise you 50mhz :D
06-01-2010, 06:38 AM
barong

i just bought this mobo why does the link width only x8 not x16???
06-01-2010, 08:28 AM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad222

Oh...BTW, have you heard about the little bug from an AMD article about Thuban running 1333 scale ?

Nope haven't heard. Got a link to article?
06-01-2010, 08:29 AM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by barong

i just bought this mobo why does the link width only x8 not x16???

No clue, I haven't gotten that far as to test 3d yet. Other priorities atm.

Motherboard testing isn't paying my bills unfortunately.
06-01-2010, 02:43 PM
barong

@chew

can you give me guide for the bios ,how to run x6 stable @ 4ghz
mine cannot pass intel burn test always blank screen, please need help
06-01-2010, 02:48 PM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by barong

@chew

can you give me guide for the bios ,how to run x6 stable @ 4ghz
mine cannot pass intel burn test always blank screen, please need help

I wouldn't be running 4gig prime on this board personallly and i can't run it and won't run it because it's not my board....I can't afford to buy dumo a new one.

In order to help you that means i would actually have to be able to run it...
06-01-2010, 05:06 PM
barong

And if I want to raise my nb freq,
What should I raise
Cpu-nb voltage or nb voltage?
06-01-2010, 05:59 PM
BeepBeep2

Quote:

Originally Posted by barong

And if I want to raise my nb freq,
What should I raise
Cpu-nb voltage or nb voltage?

CPU-NB voltage.
06-01-2010, 06:06 PM
barong

Sorry if I ask to much,
And what nb voltage use for?
06-01-2010, 06:37 PM
BeepBeep2

Quote:

Originally Posted by barong

Sorry if I ask to much,
And what nb voltage use for?

The chipset in on your motherboard.

The "NB" that CPU-Z and guys talk about is actually the Internal Memory Controller on the CPU die. That speed also controlls the speed of the L3 cache.
06-02-2010, 10:23 AM
MBomberZ1

On the off chance that a waterblock is made for the PWM and NB area of this board, with your best guess, would this comfort you enough to load a 6 core fully for extended periods of time?
06-02-2010, 11:19 AM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBomberZ1

On the off chance that a waterblock is made for the PWM and NB area of this board, with your best guess, would this comfort you enough to load a 6 core fully for extended periods of time?

On my own board yes? On a board i can't afford to replace for someone else no.
06-02-2010, 01:26 PM
TheBlueChanell

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBomberZ1

On the off chance that a waterblock is made for the PWM and NB area of this board, with your best guess, would this comfort you enough to load a 6 core fully for extended periods of time?

I've got a PWM block for the 790FX GD70, I assume that it will fit the 890FX variant as they share the same PWM and heatpipe setup. I don't have both boards on hand but I get paid the 10th and the 890FX should be coming my way. I will post some pics once it's good.
06-02-2010, 01:40 PM
MadDias

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueChanell

I've got a PWM block for the 790FX GD70, I assume that it will fit the 890FX variant as they share the same PWM and heatpipe setup. I don't have both boards on hand but I get paid the 10th and the 890FX should be coming my way. I will post some pics once it's good.

i´m afraid the block for the 790fx gd70 won´t fit the 890fx gd70, because there´s a capacitor in the way, that isn´t there on the 790fx.
if u have the anfitek block... i don´t know about other pwm blocks for the gd70.
06-02-2010, 03:43 PM
MBomberZ1

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

On my own board yes? On a board i can't afford to replace for someone else no.

I should have been more specific, at 4ghz + on 1.45v+ :)
06-02-2010, 03:55 PM
BeepBeep2

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBomberZ1

I should have been more specific, at 4ghz + on 1.45v+ :)

Prime does nasty things to cheap boards and while the 890FX-GD70 might be an awesome board in alot of ways, it only has a 4+1 phase PWM. With a ~180w load (About 4 Ghz with 1.475v) That puts 45w on each primary phase. These are not heavy-duty volterra phases that EVGA uses on it's $400 Classified boards. They aren't built to withstand 45w on each phase. More like 35.

He doesn't want to kill Dumo's board...and even though a waterblock lowers PWM temps it's really no guarantee that the parts will hold up over rated spec.
06-02-2010, 03:59 PM
MadDias

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBomberZ1

I should have been more specific, at 4ghz + on 1.45v+ :)

i primed 4.1ghz@1.475v on the 790fx gd70. i bet this board can handle this too, if u cool the pwm properly. there´s a screenshot of 1hr prime blend in the gd70 thread.
i´m sure that the ones that fried their pwm either didn´t cool them, or they enabled some power saving functions in the bios that made the pwm go crazy.

@beepbeep2: the 1090t i have draws less power than my old 965 c2. and the tiny 4+1 pwm handled the c2 with 4ghz@1.535v just fine. maybe i´m just lucky, i don´t want anyone to fry his board by running stupid prime.
but saying that a thuban draws more power than the old 140w denebs just isn´t right.
06-02-2010, 04:25 PM
TheBlueChanell

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadDias

i´m afraid the block for the 790fx gd70 won´t fit the 890fx gd70, because there´s a capacitor in the way, that isn´t there on the 790fx.
if u have the anfitek block... i don´t know about other pwm blocks for the gd70.

damn :/ you 100% sure?
06-02-2010, 04:30 PM
BeepBeep2

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadDias

@beepbeep2: the 1090t i have draws less power than my old 965 c2. and the tiny 4+1 pwm handled the c2 with 4ghz@1.535v just fine. maybe i´m just lucky, i don´t want anyone to fry his board by running stupid prime.
but saying that a thuban draws more power than the old 140w denebs just isn´t right.

I never did :shrug:
06-02-2010, 05:01 PM
MadDias

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueChanell

damn :/ you 100% sure?

not 100%

but one cap on the 890 gd70 is closer to the nb heatsink, than it was on the 790 gd70.

890fx gd70
http://www.abload.de/img/msi_890fx_gd70_1x5co.jpeg

790fx gd70
http://www.abload.de/img/five_pictures1_2010032nux4.jpg
06-02-2010, 05:15 PM
crazydiamond

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadDias

i primed 4.1ghz@1.475v on the 790fx gd70. i bet this board can handle this too, if u cool the pwm properly. there´s a screenshot of 1hr prime blend in the gd70 thread.
i´m sure that the ones that fried their pwm either didn´t cool them, or they enabled some power saving functions in the bios that made the pwm go crazy.

@beepbeep2: the 1090t i have draws less power than my old 965 c2. and the tiny 4+1 pwm handled the c2 with 4ghz@1.535v just fine. maybe i´m just lucky, i don´t want anyone to fry his board by running stupid prime.
but saying that a thuban draws more power than the old 140w denebs just isn´t right.

i didnt think they were that bad w/ x4, hella people had that board & i never really saw complaints here. there has already been more fried boards w/ x6 than there was the entire time gd70 was around w/ x4..

i primed the :banana::banana::banana::banana: out of my 790fx-gd70 w/ 965c3 x4 (1.6v+) and never had problems, just didnt want to take the chance w/ x6

edit: and i thought i read one time that msi 4+1 is basically the same as asus "8+2" but just labeled differently.
06-02-2010, 05:37 PM
BeepBeep2

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadDias

not 100%

but one cap on the 890 gd70 is closer to the nb heatsink, than it was on the 790 gd70.

890fx gd70
[IMG]http://www.abload.de/img/msi_890fx_gd70_1x5co.jpeg

790fx gd70
[IMG]http://www.abload.de/img/five_pictures1_2010032nux4.jpg

Thats a picture of a prototype board. The board looks different in retail. :yepp:
/end quote comment

Here is what I'm talking about the 4+1 PWM:

MSI 890FX-GD70:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5856/msi890fxpwm.jpg

ASUS Crosshair IV Formula:
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/9842/asus890fxpwm.jpg

ASUS M4A89TD Pro/USB3:
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/5...la890fxpwm.jpg

Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5:
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1...90fxud5pwm.jpg
06-03-2010, 02:57 AM
moorhen2

Chew*,i have read a review on this board over hear in the UK,saying that early bios's dont have the option to disable "turbo core",is this correct,and has this option been dealt with in later bios's,as i am considering giving one a go,as i have 2 790fx gd70's,and never had any problems with MSI boards.Thank's in advance.:)

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