Nvidia misses GTX470/480 launch targets

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Originally Posted by DosDuoNo

what an idiot charlie is, even after everything,he decides to scare the only people left with false rumours....YOU, how low will this low life go?

100 cards for europe? all of europe?

i can confirm that 1 UK e- retailer alone will have 50 + 50 initial stock on the 12th april, thats not counting OCUK and Dabs here in the UK (you do the math)

with many more confirmed for May 6th, yes they will be limited numbers, but 100 for the whole of europe? hahahahahahhaah

what a tosser :rofl:

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Amazingly, I think Charlie bashers are worse than Charlie himself. Now, there's a good chance that Charlie if full of :banana::banana::banana::banana:, but some of his bashers definitely are!

-Charlie claimed that two major AIB's had less than 100 each for the whole of Europe, he didn't claim that there were less than 100 cards total for all AIBs for the whole of Europe as it seems like you are implying.

-April 12th is two weeks since fermi launched, Charlie's claim is for the FIRST week. May 6th is *definitely* not in the first week that Fermi launched so what the heck is your point?:rofl:

If you hate Charlie, don't put words in his mouth and make up crap. You cannot defeat him by stooping below his level, that only makes him stronger!

I wonder where we might have heard this before...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...34#post4212734

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8123/54121452.jpg

he meant PROOF. that package could be a dual dildo for all we know!!! we don't believe!!! because charlie can't be wrongg!!!

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Originally Posted by annihilat0r

he meant PROOF. that package could be a dual dildo for all we know!!! we don't believe!!! because charlie can't be wrongg!!!

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if the end result is the same why does it matter if its a dil or a gfx card?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3642/n...shows-up-early

If Charlie had learned to back off for a few minutes and hold his tongue on this matter he could have made allot of the nvidia fans look silly, but god forbid he doesnt show what a biased ass he is at every turn. Charlie isnt accurate, its just some of his sources are and he just had one heck of a betting streak.

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Originally Posted by flippin_waffles

Let me call your rhetorical, and raise you one... How big does that truth staring you in the face have to be before you see it! :D

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What, like the truth I quoted in Chumbucket's post?

Here you are calling Charlie "reliable" when anyone who's actually been paying attention will quote you specific times he's been way off.

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Originally Posted by Cybercat

What, like the truth I quoted in Chumbucket's post?

Here you are calling Charlie "reliable" when anyone who's actually been paying attention will quote you specific times he's been way off.

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and there will be just as many ppl that will quote him when hes right...
he tells u what his sources tell him...if his source is off he's off..if the plans change then the info changes


ppl need to not be so sensitive and read the actual information being posted

does charlie dislike nvidia YES!!! everyone here knows that..
is he happy as a pig in :banana::banana::banana::banana: that nvidia is in the position they are in?..YES!!! everyone knows that as well..

so stop bashing him cause like another poster said..u look just as bad or even worse when your doing exactly the same thing he does..

the person i quoted only the first line was aimed at what u said :) so dont take the rest personally.

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Originally Posted by annihilat0r

he meant PROOF. that package could be a dual dildo for all we know!!! we don't believe!!! because charlie can't be wrongg!!!

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At evga forums people already have cards from newegg and the evga store.

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Originally Posted by InCredible

and there will be just as many ppl that will quote him when hes right...
he tells u what his sources tell him...if his source is off he's off..if the plans change then the info changes

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So basically he has a free pass on anything he gets wrong?

maybe what this charlie trying to say is .. Nvidia is playing the supply&demand scenario ..

too much supply, too little demand = price drops
too little supply, too much demand = price increase, Nvidia happy

but this is very common on the trader's market ... most manufacturer uses this method to jack up their profit ... nothing unusual, Nvidia is run by humans. everyone does it

ethically may sound evil, but hey, that's business. everything is profit driven :)

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Originally Posted by hurleybird

Amazingly, I think Charlie bashers are worse than Charlie himself. Now, there's a good chance that Charlie if full of :banana::banana::banana::banana:, but some of his bashers definitely are!

-Charlie claimed that two major AIB's had less than 100 each for the whole of Europe, he didn't claim that there were less than 100 cards total for all AIBs for the whole of Europe as it seems like you are implying.

-April 12th is two weeks since fermi launched, Charlie's claim is for the FIRST week. May 6th is *definitely* not in the first week that Fermi launched so what the heck is your point?:rofl:

If you hate Charlie, don't put words in his mouth and make up crap. You cannot defeat him by stooping below his level, that only makes him stronger!

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Originally Posted by InCredible

and there will be just as many ppl that will quote him when hes right...
he tells u what his sources tell him...if his source is off he's off..if the plans change then the info changes


ppl need to not be so sensitive and read the actual information being posted

does charlie dislike nvidia YES!!! everyone here knows that..
is he happy as a pig in :banana::banana::banana::banana: that nvidia is in the position they are in?..YES!!! everyone knows that as well..

so stop bashing him cause like another poster said..u look just as bad or even worse when your doing exactly the same thing he does..

the person i quoted only the first line was aimed at what u said :) so dont take the rest personally.

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No one here is worse than Charlie.

Here the thing. Charlie main job is being a journalist. With any job, certain principles are supposed to be followed and as a journalist, he follows none of these.

Objective writing, no. non-biased reporting, no, Sensitive reporting, no.

Being paid by sources to write articles, probably(look at all the AMD ads on his site).

We can have any opinion we want, because we are just posters. We can say what we want because it is an opinion and it doesn't reach very many people. Charlie as a journalist, with an audience that spans far more, he has to follow certain principles. He doesn't.

Its the same reason, doctors can't have relationships with patients, or therapists have to there patients therapy confidential. Charlie violates pretty much all journalistic conduct, short of what could get him arrested.

Charlie should never be called a journalist for the same reasons a pervert should never be a gynecologist.

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Originally Posted by Serpentarius

maybe what this charlie trying to say is .. Nvidia is playing the supply&demand scenario ..

too much supply, too little demand = price drops
too little supply, too much demand = price increase, Nvidia happy

but this is very common on the trader's market ... most manufacturer uses this method to jack up their profit ... nothing unusual, Nvidia is run by humans. everyone does it

ethically may sound evil, but hey, that's business. everything is profit driven :)

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Except for one little problem with that theory. ATI's 5 series is alive and well and playing the market by nvidia plays for ATI too. :p:

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Actually most of what he says is true.

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there are sometimes truths buried in there. but do you think he has secrets to tell? do you see the stock market move when charlie posts? reputable news sources like digitimes linking to charlie? no, because what he posts isnt news. charlie is a tabloid like the national enquirer.

only kids think he has secrets for them. if you are over 21 and read charlie like a newspaper then you better check yourself before your wreck yourself. the little kids here still have time to learn their lessons, but you are running out.

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Originally Posted by Dainas

Except for one little problem with that theory. ATI's 5 series is alive and well and playing the market by nvidia plays for ATI too. :p:

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market is based on confidence ... look around, ask any layman computer user, they'll select Nvidia as choice.

as long they have the market confidence, the demand is there .... Nvidia always have the upper hand to weave whatever price they set.

all market are based on this simple theory, whether if you're selling veggies or a Ferrari, or you're a stock market broker ...

it doesnt matter how good/bad is your product, just as long as people demands it, and it'll sell.

if people even demands is higher where else the stock is low, that's the time to jack it up and make a healthy profit. this may sound ridiculous, but the more limited the product stock, the more precious it is ...

intersesting.

so i just went on a local price portal (http://www.geizhals.at) and looked what cards are currently on stock. although its not all of the EU, but there are at least shops from germany, gb and austria included here!

nvidia:
GeForce G 210 (1)
GeForce GT 220 (30)
GeForce GT 240 (20)
GeForce GTS 250 (23)
GeForce GTX 260 (0)
GeForce GTX 275 (1)
GeForce GTX 280 (1)
GeForce GTX 285 (23)
GeForce GTX 295 (0)
GeForce GTX 470 (0)
GeForce GTX 480 (0)

compare this to ati:
Radeon HD 5450 (15)
Radeon HD 5550 (0)
Radeon HD 5570 (13)
Radeon HD 5670 (9)
Radeon HD 5750 (19)
Radeon HD 5770 (36)
Radeon HD 5830 (9)
Radeon HD 5850 (17)
Radeon HD 5870 (28)
Radeon HD 5970 (7)

remember thats not cards! thats the numbers of shops having this type of card from any manufacturer in stock!

we all know that charlie hates nvidia so much that he will try to pick most negative info so thats how you are gonna read this news ---- 'Nvidias fermi arch based card supply is lower than expected ' forget the actual number thats prolly most negative one but they failed to deliver enough quantity that is conclusion imho

Every focus group member has the line in their signature, and it's a 4 person group. The line is required by NVIDIA's legal department. :up:

The only focus group members registered here are Rollo and me.


Amorphous

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Originally Posted by flippin_waffles

Ill take charlies word over focus group members any day or night of the week. And since its impossible to tell who is and isn't part of the focus group, that leaves me trusting charlie over any pro-nv member on the web. Not to mention that charlie's info has been proven quite reliable. So factor in the focus group viral marketing and all the charlie bashing starts to make sense! :D

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Wow. Can I steal that? :ROTF:

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Originally Posted by tajoh111

Charlie should never be called a journalist for the same reasons a pervert should never be a gynecologist.

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Originally Posted by ElSel10

That's funny. I just got off the phone with PNY and my GTX480 shipped this morning with 2nd day air. Charlie can rot in a sack.

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you managed to buy 1, thats why he must be wrong? :confused: :lol:

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Originally Posted by bamtan2

only kids think he has secrets for them. if you are over 21 and read charlie like a newspaper then you better check yourself before your wreck yourself. the little kids here still have time to learn their lessons, but you are running out.

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I read anything, that doesnt mean I believe it nor anticipate what that person has to write in the future. And I cant really read anything 'like a newspaper', seeing that I dont read any newspapers at all. What Charlie writes is actually far less biased and incorrect than much of what the Daily Mail or The Sun write in their rubbish papers, or what a lot of programmes and news on TV show. If you disagree with that, then you likely arent watching much TV or reading Newspapers either.

I simply saw this news posted elsewhere, then realised it hadnt been posted here yet so did that. It was my first time visiting Semiaccurate actually.

If you think that reading and sharing information makes you a little kid, then you must be the one thats a little 'wrecked'. According to you, anyone that reads anything in the newspaper or sees anything on TV that you dont like or disagree with must be a little kid too.

Time can only tell if he was wrong or right. People got their hands on 5870's when it was launched that does not mean AMD did not have short supply at that time....

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Originally Posted by annihilat0r

I don't think the 100 per AIB for Europe figure is correct. I have been in touch with some Turkish retailers and they told me about 100 cards per AIB will enter Turkey in April, and more in the coming months. While this is not a big figure at all (Turkey is a big GPU market, bigger than most EU countries) it's far away from what Charlie says.

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Even tough Turkey has some European soil. When looked in big picture, Turkey is not in Europe.

That 100 cards for europe is confirmed from atleast one aib by www.muropaketti.com. And retailers know :banana::banana::banana::banana:. They can always say they get lots, actual deliverd amount is another case. And as stated earlier, Turkey is not in Europe. Their cards should not count against allocated card count for Europe.

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Originally Posted by saaya

you managed to buy 1, thats why he must be wrong? :confused: :lol:

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:rofl: i am gonna sig this :up: i am between that 100 degrees comment and this one :p:

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Originally Posted by Mechanical Man

Even tough Turkey has some European soil. When looked in big picture, Turkey is not in Europe.
And as stated earlier, Turkey is not in Europe. Their cards should not count against allocated card count for Europe.

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Geez, you go out of your way to make a political statement that changes absolutely nothing related to what I said, just for the sake of expressing your political views. Wherever Turkey is located, do you think it is normal for Turkey to get as many cards as the whole Europe?

FYI, a lot of ATI partners include Turkey in their European channels, for example the Sapphire office in Turkey is in their South European branch which is headed by Italy (which sells less cards than Turkey :eek:)