ATI Hint at NO Price Drop

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03-25-2010, 12:44 PM
SamHughe

Don't worry guys, I'll take care of it.

Ahem...

BEHOLD NVIDIA OFFICIALS! I SHALL PURCHASE A 5870, IF YOU DON'T SELL GTX 480 FOR $449 AT LAUNCH!

That should do it. Enjoy.
03-25-2010, 01:05 PM
Manicdan

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

I hear they lost the wafers already in production( no numbers on how many wafers were lost though), plus the lost time. This is why Fermi is delayed a week, and ATi stock is expected to be affected worse than nV's.

PCPerspectives reports shortages until May from both parties, hence everyone else saying kinda similar stuff(on thier podcast). Personally, I was expecting this of Fermi any way, due to the launch being @ a lan, rather than an industry event.

I guess the coming months may tell teh truth, but I expect retailer's to gouge just because they'll be slightly more tight on actual boxed units.

wow, and here i thought you were joking by turning the 1.5 day loss into an excuse for a 4 week delay. i think furmi has too much power, and god is angry and dosnt want it released.
03-25-2010, 01:17 PM
cadaveca

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manicdan

wow, and here i thought you were joking by turning the 1.5 day loss into an excuse for a 4 week delay. i think furmi has too much power, and god is angry and dosnt want it released.

Not my news, just PCPerspectives/TweakTown. The others hinting at increases are using the same source, but because you'd have to listen to the podcast, and few do, no source is given.

I'm just placing a source to other's info.

Delays or not, this stuff doesn't matter to me.

And if you know Shane Baxtor, this thread is all due to them hyping thier own rumours. In case you didn't, ShaneBaxtor and TweakTown belong together in the same sentence. He's using his own info, based on Fermi performance, plus the TSMC news, to single out the lack of a price drop(FERMI cost), and maybe an increase(TSMC problems).
03-25-2010, 02:04 PM
naokaji

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Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ

I'm still wondering what happened to that we won't sell any video cards for more than $599 comment.

And how much of the price is actually controlled by the gpu manufacturer? how much of it is controlled by the likes of Asus? and how much by the etailers?

I would not be too quick to blame the gpu manufacturer for the price you pay.
03-25-2010, 02:26 PM
Trouffman

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

this is news?
sigh... i should start blogging obvious stuff as well :P

"lOOl" Exactly my point bro ;)
03-25-2010, 02:36 PM
audioave10

I must say that the hype machine and rumours caused by this 6-month delay
has been truly epic. :yepp:
03-25-2010, 03:14 PM
Aerwidh

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Originally Posted by jmke

http://www.madshrimps.be/vbulletin/f...me-news-71015/

:rofl:

Google :D

lol, saaya get's more and more famous :D
03-25-2010, 04:06 PM
mrcape

When is the 5970 coming out?

j/k

(but it's not worth $700 lol, maybe 500)
03-25-2010, 06:47 PM
sniper_sung

Just confirmed that the price of 5870 in the UK increased by about £20~£30.
03-26-2010, 06:38 AM
Elmy

The people that sit in these forums and say " I'm waiting for the 5870 to drop 30 bucks before I buy one " make me LoL. Really you would sit here for 6 months and wait for the prices to drop 30 bucks ?
03-26-2010, 06:52 AM
Manicdan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmy

The people that sit in these forums and say " I'm waiting for the 5870 to drop 30 bucks before I buy one " make me LoL. Really you would sit here for 6 months and wait for the prices to drop 30 bucks ?

im waiting for it to cost 200$, which should have happened by about late summer if it wasnt for TSMC slowing down the whole industry, and Nvidia going a pricing rampage.

ati/amd said they liked launching 300$ cards, but now they have the option to launch a 400+$ card, they jump right on it.
03-26-2010, 07:06 AM
Metroid

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

this is news?
sigh... i should start blogging obvious stuff as well :P

Is just as you said on the Fermi thread, the new Catalyst 10.3 was specifically to counter the question on whether or not should ATI start dropping its 5870 price.
03-26-2010, 08:50 AM
Dr.FuzzyBallz

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Originally Posted by onethreehill

Do not be surprised if AMD increase prices of HD 5870 & HD 5850

Wait so i was planning on getting a computer w/ 5850.. but i was waitin till the Nvidia card came out hoping for a price drop & then buying it..

Would you & the rest of you suggest i might as well get it now?
03-26-2010, 09:06 AM
Manicdan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.FuzzyBallz

Wait so i was planning on getting a computer w/ 5850.. but i was waitin till the Nvidia card came out hoping for a price drop & then buying it..

Would you & the rest of you suggest i might as well get it now?

no, id wait till May or June, i hope we see a 20-30% price drop by then, could save you 50+$
03-26-2010, 01:03 PM
mrcape

How much improvement would I get if I'm using gtx295 now and I got a 5970 or 5870? How long have the 5970 been on the market and how much of that time have they really been in stock? Every time I look they are sold out since launch, or are $700.

edit - one more thing - I have not paid any attention to the news on Fermi, is there a dual gpu version coming out? I think that's what I'm, waiting for if I want to see an upgrade that warrants the price.
03-26-2010, 01:15 PM
Dainas

If your using a GTX 295, besides DX11 a negative is what you'd get. If you are going for a pair of 5870s or a 5970 then you'd have a nice boost.
03-26-2010, 01:25 PM
MrMojoZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcape

edit - one more thing - I have not paid any attention to the news on Fermi, is there a dual gpu version coming out? I think that's what I'm, waiting for if I want to see an upgrade that warrants the price.

That would be difficult from a power perspective, maybe a MARS type of deal?
03-26-2010, 01:45 PM
YukonTrooper

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Originally Posted by Sly Fox

Ditto.

Guess it means another 6 months of waiting for us poor college student folk. :rofl:

Hey, you'll be alright with your GTX 260 216 for awhile. I'm Mass Effecting on mine @ 1920X1200 4xAA without a hitch. No Crysis for me yet, though. I'm still waiting for a card that will play that game at 60FPS min at 1920X1200 4xAA+. :p:
03-26-2010, 07:05 PM
onethreehill

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Originally Posted by Dave Erskine, AMD spokesperson

Four months after its launch, the ATI Radeon HD 5970 remains the undisputed performance leader. Six months after its launch, the ATI Radeon HD 5870 remains the clear winner at and below its price point. Add to that a top to bottom line-up of DirectX 11 graphics cards as well as cutting-edge features such as the immersive experience of ATI Eyefinity technology, and we are confident ATI Radeon graphics cards will continue to be the favorite choice of customers wanting the most advanced and efficient graphics products.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/rad...870,10000.html
03-26-2010, 07:14 PM
onethreehill

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.FuzzyBallz

Wait so i was planning on getting a computer w/ 5850.. but i was waitin till the Nvidia card came out hoping for a price drop & then buying it..

Would you & the rest of you suggest i might as well get it now?

If I were you, I will buy SAPPHIRE 100282-3SR Radeon HD 5850 1GB for US$279.99, free shipping @newegg now (assuming you are in the US) :D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...lt=True&Page=1
03-26-2010, 07:33 PM
onethreehill

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manicdan

no, id wait till May or June, i hope we see a 20-30% price drop by then, could save you 50+$

Save 50+$ from MSRP or street price?
03-27-2010, 05:53 AM
Manicdan

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Originally Posted by onethreehill

Save 50+$ from MSRP or street price?

just that kind of savings in general. if the one he wanted now (based on ports, brand, heatsink/fan quality) was overpriced, it may be possible to save 50$ by waiting 2 months, considering no one has a clue how accelerated the price dropping process will be now.

if the 2GB 5870s cant be priced so freaking high they match a 480 (since they wont be that much better anyway) they might have to drop everything down a bracket.

i also wouldnt pick up one just on principal, paying the price i could have pain in november just would make me hate seeing it every time i looked in my case.
03-27-2010, 05:57 AM
iTravis

Anyone know either HD5850 or HD5870 is available at Dell? I have a 20% coupon off and really tempted to get a pair of either one. Still scratching my head whether HD5850 CF or HD5870 CF is better in term of price/performance.
03-27-2010, 05:59 AM
zalbard

Now we know why there's no price drop incoming, lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by YukonTrooper

Hey, you'll be alright with your GTX 260 216 for awhile. I'm Mass Effecting on mine @ 1920X1200 4xAA without a hitch. No Crysis for me yet, though. I'm still waiting for a card that will play that game at 60FPS min at 1920X1200 4xAA+. :p:

Keep waiting. :p:
03-27-2010, 06:14 AM
xlink

Quote:

Originally Posted by iTravis

Anyone know either HD5850 or HD5870 is available at Dell? I have a 20% coupon off and really tempted to get a pair of either one. Still scratching my head whether HD5850 CF or HD5870 CF is better in term of price/performance.

5850 is better bang/$ and so is 5850CF.

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