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Yeah but only stepping up when you have something new to sell? Wake up guys! They've had weeks to do this.
Anyway, i've been sat in the edit window for a couple of mins considering deleting it, but tbh it is the way I feel about it. Its only one small opinion, i'm not in the mindset of trolling or anything so i'll just post no more about it. Choose to ignore it or not as you wish I suppose :).
The design of the new res looks great, as did the T3. No disrespect intended to BoxGods work.
Thanks for the answer. With this case I can do some shifting and what not, but with an external rad in top back, it makes it a bit difficult, not impossible mind you, just a bit difficult.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxGods
I figured with the drive bays being lower than where the rads would sit would be a minor issue, but with most cases it shouldn't be a problem.
Just checking things/thoughts/ideas out.
Again, thank you for your quick replies! ^_^
2 very important differences here:Quote:
Originally Posted by PiLsY
1. POM
2. local (to the designer/ reseller) manufacture
Actually, the delay in RMA's for the T3 was due to moving the molds from China to California, the California injection molding company altering the molds to fit their presses, trying different plastics, and testing parts. Primo COULD have gambled and sent out replacements with the Chinese parts but didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by PiLsY
As for "taking care of it" when they had something new to sell, the lead time for bringing a new part to market is a LONG time. I originally submitted the design for the Split Window over six months ago and the process was started--that was before the first T3's even hit the market. The delrin T3 design was started about a month after the designs for the Split Window reservoirs because of the machined aluminum faces--they have a much more distinctive (better IMHO) look then the standard T3 and the idea is to standardize the line of reservoirs.
There will be single bay Typhoon Split Window models in single and dual chamber, and dual bay Typhoon Split Window models also in a single and chamber. Then there will be the Typhoon III (T3) in a Split Window. There is also a 6th Typhoon model coming that mounts on the top or bottom of a case.
My point is that they did not just step up when they had another T3...the Delrin T3 is 2-4 weeks away. If it looks like that to you...nothing I can really say beyond the time line above. Even if you really do believe it was because of new parts...it's never too late to do the right thing. They could have made the Delrin model the Typhoon 4 and just said injection molding clear plastic is a bust, cut their losses and moved on rather then taking a bath moving production to the US. Consider how many of these split window reservoirs they have to sell to make back the 10 grand (my guess) they spent moving production to the US--even if they managed to net $15 each on the new Split Window they need to sell just over 650 units JUST TO BREAK EVEN...
Yeah, this is why I really LOVE the front ports concept on a bay mounted reservoir. In virtually every configuration you can imagine, the front ports are the highest point in the loop/s when the case is shifted onto its back, and the lowest point when shifter forward onto it's face/front. A best case scenario for filling and draining the loops COMPLETELY.Quote:
Originally Posted by IFMU
I have used T's for remote fill and drain legs before of course, and although the impact on loop performance is in reality minimal...some times you don't want the fill port out there marring the looks of a theme. That's why I designed mine as small/thin/unobtrusive as possible both on the top portion that shows outside the case, and on the inner fitting portion inside the case. I have used the DD fill ports for years and they are excellent parts, but they are just HUGE IMHO.
http://www.boxgods.com/global/images...es/A197-77.jpg
http://www.boxgods.com/global/images...es/A197-78.jpg
The hole for those is 1 inch if I remember right. Mine use a 3/4" hole as a reference to the size difference. I am not knocking the DD parts for the record--I have a build on the bench right now that uses 2 of them--just offering another option for builds that are space limited, or that need a different look, or for guys on a budget. I have been using DD parts for like 10 years and have rarely been unhappy.
The build log for that rig is at:
http://www.boxgods.com/dept/modding/...Article&ID=197
My only disappointment with Brian and primochill is that they did not return my emails.
But apart from that, for whatever reasons he did not return my emails they have pulled through and I know I will be buying from them again.
Many other companies would have brushed this under the carpet and moved on but Brian did not.
I own my own business involved in construction and have met so many people and companies that have blamed bad workmanship on bad materials and ignored the customer complaints knowing all to well that most people will just move on.
Brian did not and for that I will be more than welcome to recommend primochill and Boxgods work to anyone.
Well done Brian for stepping up to the mark in a time were most people think good customer service has disappeared.
The design is very nice. However i don't like single bay res. They need to be full at all times and create vortexes.
A dual bay split res for dual loops would be great though!
I am sort of torn on the not answering emails thing. As a person who buys stuff I know I like to be kept informed etc..on the other hand, I know that dealing with large numbers of people (customers) is something I could never do...very likely the reason I am either designing something in Solidworks or in my shop tinkering. I agree with Db that he (Brian) just needs to hire a person, even part time, who handles community relations type stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barso
Dual bay is coming =)Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
Sweeet! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxGods
The differences in how people perceive customer support seems to be largely down to communication issues. Even if the objective result is that a poor communicating company delivers what it promised faster than a better communicating competitor, the good communication makes people feel better. Unfortunately, when times get busy, this sort of thing is easy to drop. But it's rarely worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxGods
Anyway, I'm extremely happy this appears to have been sorted and am going to take full credit for the delrin T3. Why? I ordered a Technofront "Eagle" as an alternative as I was convinced that an improved T3 wouldn't appear. The next day . . . Good thing I could still cancel my order! Can't wait for these to hit the UK.
I finally got some pictures of some of the other colors and the back view in.
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That's the purple, black, and orange. Also the new fill/bleed port and the funnel. The threads on the fill port are G1/4 foe those wanting to use a compression fitting though it is shown with a metal Ghost Barb.
It also looks like there was a small snag with the larger O ring for the single chamber so Primo will likely not be shipping inventory to resellers till about the 7th or so. :(
Quick question to get an opinion from you guys.
If I drew up an acrylic window/bracket that mounted to the aluminum face plate like the reservoirs do so that the face plates could be used as replacement bay covers identical to the face plate of the Split Window Reservoirs would anyone be interested? As a bay cover it would look just like the Split Window but without a reservoir bolted on of course. Like billeted bay covers with cool windows (they would have acrylic just like the rez). A lot of material and machining there so they would not be "cheap"...say $15 to $18 each MSRP.
Thoughts?
how much reservoir volume does that thing have?
**the water below the top of the fitting is not reservoir volume....
Not positive I understand unless you mean the top ports.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondacity
Internal volume (roughly as I am not on my work PC) is 4 cubic inches for each tank on the twin tank or about 65 cubic centimeters and the single tank version would be about double that so 8 cubic inches or 130 cubic centimeters.
In my mind (and I am POSITIVE some will disagree) reservoir volume is largely irrelevant until you get to fairly large (way larger then we have room for in a case) reservoirs.
Using the flow rate numbers from a T3--which for the sake of argument is twice that volume--it would exchange the volume in the single tank more then 30 times a minute. The reservoir material is delrin which is a fairly decent insulator so there would not be a lot of water to air heat exchange even with slower rates which is a good thing as bleeding heat into your case is counter productive.
To me the primary function of a reservoir in a water cooling loop is as an easy place to fill the system and to occasionally remove accumulated air by topping off. That's why I only made the split window deep enough to reach the forward mounting screws. That extra room is a big help for SFF guys and no mater how big your case is, extra room for managing your loop/s is a good thing.