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09-11-2009, 09:08 AM
Farinorco

Do you know what is fascinating me more about all this crazy 6+ multi-monitor madness here? Not the monitors... but the resolutions.

Heck, I'm reading comments about Crysis, Dirt 2, H.A.W.X., etc, running well and playable on a resolution of 7680x3200. 7680x3200. That's a resolution more than 10x the surface in pixels than 1920x1200. On a single 1GB (maybe 2GB) card, 256 bit memory bus?

WTF? With a resolution scaling like the current GPUs (both for processing and memory use), it should be dragging pitifully.

Have they done something to the new cards to be less affected than usual by resolution scaling? There's something strange by there...:confused:
09-11-2009, 10:22 AM
Rise

the frames of the monitor make me want to vomit.

Option 1: Seamless monitors that hookup somehow to minimize frames (i don't see how you can totally eliminate frames though...)
Option 2: Seamless *curved* monitors to get you a better rounded shape
Option 3: Projector + screen
Option 4: 3D glasses
Option 5: Virtual reality
Option 6: Holograms
Option 7: Wire it to your brain
Option 8: The Matrix
Option 9: Go outside.
09-11-2009, 10:30 AM
64NOMIS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farinorco

Do you know what is fascinating me more about all this crazy 6+ multi-monitor madness here? Not the monitors... but the resolutions.

Heck, I'm reading comments about Crysis, Dirt 2, H.A.W.X., etc, running well and playable on a resolution of 7680x3200. 7680x3200. That's a resolution more than 10x the surface in pixels than 1920x1200. On a single 1GB (maybe 2GB) card, 256 bit memory bus?

WTF? With a resolution scaling like the current GPUs (both for processing and memory use), it should be dragging pitifully.

Have they done something to the new cards to be less affected than usual by resolution scaling? There's something strange by there...:confused:

The 5000 series GPU's are very, very fast. Yes it seems absolutly incredible but it really works, and you could see those were absolutely playable frame rates on H.A.W.X.
09-11-2009, 10:34 AM
64NOMIS

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Originally Posted by Boissez

Is that a fact?
On cheap (TN) panels there's a 20-30% variance in luminosity just on one single panel(!) - what makes you think that things would improve from panel to panel
Also although lcd's are better in terms of color/brightness accuracy over time if they are not calibrated to start with (like most cheap TN panels) they will have color/luminance shifts from day 1.

Having a 3 or 6 monitor setup with one of them having a strong color shift will strongly affect immersability IMO - even more so than the bezels.

As I said you will have to adjust luminosity/brightness but the correction will be much simpler than with projectors which have perpetual issues and need to be calibrated frequently. This problem is manageable with projectors, with LCD's I simply don't think its a moving issue, in particular in the two major use cases, those being multi-tasking (where windows in general will not span panels) and in gaming (where you can achieve good-enough calibration).

Perhaps coming out of the rear projection world (where we re-calibrated every session) it is just so much easier that I discount the remaining nuance with LCD's.
09-11-2009, 11:01 AM
koksy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rise

the frames of the monitor make me want to vomit.

Option 1: Seamless monitors that hookup somehow to minimize frames (i don't see how you can totally eliminate frames though...)
Option 2: Seamless *curved* monitors to get you a better rounded shape
Option 3: Projector + screen
Option 4: 3D glasses
Option 5: Virtual reality
Option 6: Holograms
Option 7: Wire it to your brain
Option 8: The Matrix
Option 9: Go outside.

well since no one ever reads the video card section, I thought I might answer you here.

http://www.seamlessdisplay.com/products_radius320.htm
09-11-2009, 11:03 AM
Helloworld_98

can't wait to get a 5870, although I'll probably get out a few 17" 1280x1024 screens to make use of the high resolutions that it can output a playable fps at.
09-11-2009, 02:26 PM
BrokenWall

Engadget got the right idea, theater room with 6 HD projectors to make it seamless

http://www.viddler.com/simple_on_site/7744708e
09-11-2009, 02:53 PM
brandinb

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrokenWall

Engadget got the right idea, theater room with 6 HD projectors to make it seamless

http://www.viddler.com/simple_on_site/7744708e

WOW that rocks! I want to play l4d on that setup!:eek:
09-11-2009, 03:06 PM
ahmad

I am quite impressed with this step forward. Never expected something like this.

We need to start taking monitors apart to figure out how to reduce that bezel to insignificant size... I am certain acer panels will be the best for this (because they are so cheap).

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Originally Posted by Warboy

My Opinion - ATI + Me = Sold. Now is XFX the only ATi company that offers lifetime warranty?

VisionTek does as well.
09-11-2009, 03:54 PM
stevecs

I agree, this is great. I've been struggling to get 6+ monitors heck, even 3 working seamlessly for the past several years at high res. This is exactly what I am looking for. At work I've had to coble together 6 1280x1024's (3840x2048) w/ 2 matrox triple heads merged on an nvidia gpu, but at home there has been nothing to merge 3 or more 30" monitors together at high res. This is on my hot list. :)
09-11-2009, 06:50 PM
Unoid

Holy :banana::banana::banana::banana:!

has anyone seen the movie Gamer? Giant 200" 360 degree high res displays.

Imagine using 3-6 720P projectors and playing a game with 200" worth of playable space for 5000x2000 res or so? :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing amazing, seamless 200" screen in high res. This is the first step in that direction.

Btw I bought 22000 shares of AMD last week, I've seen 20% increase in this ONE week. I could buy 12 I7 systems with the profits.

;-)
09-11-2009, 08:23 PM
cegras

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farinorco

Do you know what is fascinating me more about all this crazy 6+ multi-monitor madness here? Not the monitors... but the resolutions.

Heck, I'm reading comments about Crysis, Dirt 2, H.A.W.X., etc, running well and playable on a resolution of 7680x3200. 7680x3200. That's a resolution more than 10x the surface in pixels than 1920x1200. On a single 1GB (maybe 2GB) card, 256 bit memory bus?

WTF? With a resolution scaling like the current GPUs (both for processing and memory use), it should be dragging pitifully.

Have they done something to the new cards to be less affected than usual by resolution scaling? There's something strange by there...:confused:

Don't see why not. AA / AF requirements technically diminish as you increase resolution, but people benchmark with them because it can bring cards to their knees.
09-11-2009, 08:25 PM
Boogerlad

AA is useless for very high resolutions unless you still see jaggies. Af helps in all situations. Correct me if I'm wrong.
09-11-2009, 10:36 PM
Final8ty

Boogerlad & cegras.

Less AA is needed as the resolution increases on screens when the resolution is contained to the same over all area as a lower resolution screen.
ATM there are no consumer screens with a high enough res to eliminate the need for AA.
09-11-2009, 10:45 PM
STEvil

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Originally Posted by hurleybird

Resolution wise it's possible if some displays have black bars, or if you fool windows into thinking some displays have more pixels than they do (and then simply have the GPU not render those "extra" pixels. That's assuming all the monitors have equal pixel size. If not, things could get awfully messy...

Yeah, that was what I was implying.

1680's would just be to hold me over until I could pick up another pair of 2560x1600's.
09-11-2009, 10:47 PM
ajaidev

Just imagine this in 6 monitor or 3 monitor configuration :>

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/Data...Engine3_02.jpg

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/Data...Engine3_01.jpg

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
09-11-2009, 10:55 PM
AMDDeathstar

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajaidev

Just imagine this in 6 monitor or 3 monitor configuration :>

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

There is video of it on triple screens, but I can't find it.
09-11-2009, 10:58 PM
Olivon

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Originally Posted by AMDDeathstar

There is video of it on triple screens, but I can't find it.

here we go ! :)
09-12-2009, 12:06 AM
AMDDeathstar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olivon

here we go ! :)

Thanks
09-12-2009, 12:57 AM
eric66

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx3MU...eature=channel

new stalker video
09-12-2009, 02:25 AM
n!Cola

Quote:

Originally Posted by koksy

well since no one ever reads the video card section, I thought I might answer you here.

http://www.seamlessdisplay.com/products_radius320.htm

Yeah :

The Radius320 combines three 20.1 inch LCDs to produce a seamless wrap-around 50-inch screen with 5.76 million pixels (that's HDTV x3)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWivZ...e=channel_page
09-12-2009, 04:11 AM
Mechromancer

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajaidev

Just imagine this in 6 monitor or 3 monitor configuration :>

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/Data...Engine3_02.jpg

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/Data...Engine3_01.jpg

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

Could this mean that CryEngine3 is coded with ATI GPUs in mind?!
09-12-2009, 04:20 AM
Tim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mechromancer

Could this mean that CryEngine3 is coded with ATI GPUs in mind?!

Nah, they are good friends with nVidia. DX11 is DX11. It can be optimized for either camp, but I'd be very surprised if they would go with nVidia. Crytek and nVidia go back as far as the Dino island demo on the Geforce FX's, then Farcry on the 6800's (inc SM3 patch), and 8800's for Crysis on DX10. They have always been part of nVidia's 'The way it's meant to be played' program. Wouldn't be surprised if they have access to GT300 ES samples already, since they have always had ES samples from nVidia well before they were even announced.
09-12-2009, 07:52 AM
LordEC911

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim

Nah, they are good friends with nVidia. DX11 is DX11. It can be optimized for either camp, but I'd be very surprised if they would go with nVidia. Crytek and nVidia go back as far as the Dino island demo on the Geforce FX's, then Farcry on the 6800's (inc SM3 patch), and 8800's for Crysis on DX10. They have always been part of nVidia's 'The way it's meant to be played' program. Wouldn't be surprised if they have access to GT300 ES samples already, since they have always had ES samples from nVidia well before they were even announced.

They are old and good partners with ATi as well...
Unfortunately for AMD/ATi, Nvidia was throwing them more money/resources.
09-12-2009, 08:09 AM
soundood

slightly off topic, but has anyone seen those Radius320 50" screens anywhere for sale? i sure as hell cant find it anywhere, just plenty of reviews.

i was in fact looking for a price in £, although it wont be the first time someone has removed the bezels from some monitors, so that they can line up, with maybe 4 mm combined thickness drop out.

it was done a couple of years ago, and had a guide, may actualy have been on this site.

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