AMD 12-Core MagnyCours System Overclocked 3.2Ghz !!!!

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09-10-2009, 10:31 AM
Chad Boga

Do people think this is gonna be released as a desktop processor, or less than $2,000?
09-10-2009, 11:01 AM
terrace215

AMD must be getting nervous about Beckton. Should be some extensive demos in two weeks at IDF.
09-10-2009, 11:27 AM
FischOderAal

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Originally Posted by terrace215

AMD must be getting nervous about Beckton. Should be some extensive demos in two weeks at IDF.

Maybe AMD rents a hotel room ;) Haven't they done that before?
09-10-2009, 11:31 AM
Glow9

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Originally Posted by Chad Boga

Do people think this is gonna be released as a desktop processor, or less than $2,000?

Doubt it, but this is an enthusiast forum. If Intel can dish out $1000 i7-975 McNothin specials people would likely pay 2k for 12 cores with a lot of fun potential. I mean you can take a $300 chip to OC to Intel Core i7-975. Having 12 cores is a niche and a damn fun one when you can OC to twice it's stock speed.
09-10-2009, 11:32 AM
Manicdan

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Originally Posted by Glow9

Doubt it, but this is an enthusiast forum. If Intel can dish out $1000 i7-975 McNothin specials people would likely pay 2k for 12 cores with a lot of fun potential. I mean you can take a $300 chip to OC to Intel Core i7-975. Having 12 cores is a niche and a damn fun one when you can OC to twice it's stock speed.

you think the 12 cores will come stock at 3ghz, i doubt it, more like OC to 3x its speed (with some LN2)
09-10-2009, 11:39 AM
Glow9

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Originally Posted by Manicdan

you think the 12 cores will come stock at 3ghz, i doubt it, more like OC to 3x its speed (with some LN2)

No they come stock at 1.8Ghz I believe the original thread said.
09-10-2009, 11:40 AM
freeloader

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Originally Posted by Manicdan

you think the 12 cores will come stock at 3ghz, i doubt it, more like OC to 3x its speed (with some LN2)

I don't think anyone is expecting 12 cores at 3ghz, but realistically a 2.4 to 2.6ghz part is quite doable. Maybe 3.5 (+/- 200mhz) on a very good air cooler with a little voltage! :)
09-10-2009, 11:47 AM
Nedjo

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Originally Posted by Chad Boga

Do people think this is gonna be released as a desktop processor, or less than $2,000?

and what does that has to do with this thread about performance and overclocking flexibility of AMD next gen K10 core(s)??
09-10-2009, 01:14 PM
Manicdan

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Originally Posted by Glow9

No they come stock at 1.8Ghz I believe the original thread said.

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Originally Posted by freeloader

I don't think anyone is expecting 12 cores at 3ghz, but realistically a 2.4 to 2.6ghz part is quite doable. Maybe 3.5 (+/- 200mhz) on a very good air cooler with a little voltage! :)

i was trying to say the OC would be 6ghz if people would get double the speed of stock. i expected these to be around 2ghz for tdp reasons
09-10-2009, 01:17 PM
freeloader

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Originally Posted by Manicdan

i was trying to say the OC would be 6ghz if people would get double the speed of stock. i expected these to be around 2ghz for tdp reasons

Understood! :yepp:

Would be nice to see a stock desktop part at 3ghz under 125 watts. Maybe on a 32nm node. :D
09-10-2009, 03:23 PM
mursaat

Yes, with a 5870 integrated on-die, for less than $300, please!
09-10-2009, 04:55 PM
SocketMan

It's a 24 core system to be more precise.There won't be any 1p systems on the g34.
I know that OP knows this,but seeing how people get excited
about all the cache/cores ---well we better double all this excitement up.:up:
Correct me if I am wrong but both CPU's can access each other's L3
(among other things),and the maximum memory bandwidth goes up a lot when 2 or more sockets are used.I am counting 24MB of L3 btw (not 10 or 12 :p:)

Anyhow I don't know where am going with this,but I do know that this should make a nice "entry level" system :shocked: :rofl:

Also why people think it will cost thousands for a single CPU ?
The 4P/8P will,but not the 2P ones.I assume there will be differences in the
number of HT links and the price (similar to how it is now with the 2xxx and 8xxx series Opty's))
09-10-2009, 07:59 PM
saaya

is it really 1v vcore? :o
09-10-2009, 08:04 PM
Clairvoyant129

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Originally Posted by saaya

is it really 1v vcore? :o

Probably not, CPU-Z sometimes misreads vcore
09-10-2009, 08:43 PM
informal

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Originally Posted by Clairvoyant129

Probably not, CPU-Z sometimes misreads vcore

It's around 1.15V.
09-10-2009, 08:54 PM
mrcape

Go AMD, Sweet!
09-10-2009, 10:35 PM
s7e9h3n

Someone pointed me to this thread...Thanks Perkam - haven't made the news here in quite awhile.

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Originally Posted by saaya

is it really 1v vcore? :o

Yes, it really is 1.037Vcore default

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Originally Posted by informal

It's around 1.15V.

Actually, for runs @ ~3Ghz, all the cores were set to run at 1.165Vcore. I was able to figure out the value for the P-State register which allows for Vcore increases. IIRC, I even had 1.5+Vcore available but didn't even think twice about it for fear of melting the coolers.

I'll try to address some of the other questions/comments later - I have a bad habit of reading threads from back to front...:p:
09-10-2009, 11:05 PM
FlanK3r

yes, it was about 1.15V only, for SOI nice :)
09-11-2009, 08:41 AM
saaya

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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

Actually, for runs @ ~3Ghz, all the cores were set to run at 1.165Vcore.

sweet :D
09-12-2009, 10:34 AM
LaMpiR

I've been looking at this and here it is compared to some new Intel I9 cpu.
AMD Magny 3Ghz 24 cores - 24 threads:
32M - 3.539 sec
1024M - 75.768 sec

Intel i9 3,8Ghz 6 cores - 12 threads:
32M - 4.9 sec
1024 - 140.814 sec

I think it's quite impressive.
If this could be pared up with better oc, some good ddr3, few ssd's, 58xx it would be overclockers dream :)
Here is the screenshot for intel cpu
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&postcount=50
09-12-2009, 11:14 AM
kl0012

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Originally Posted by LaMpiR

I've been looking at this and here it is compared to some new Intel I9 cpu.
AMD Magny 3Ghz 12 cores - 12 threads:
32M - 3.539 sec
1024M - 75.768 sec

Intel i9 3,8Ghz 6 cores - 12 threads:
32M - 4.9 sec
1024 - 140.814 sec

I think it's quite impressive.
If this could be pared up with better oc, some good ddr3, few ssd's, 58xx it would be overclockers dream :)
Here is the screenshot for intel cpu
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&postcount=50

I suppose that AMD's result was obtained on dual-cpu platform, so actually there were 24 threads, not 12. Also Core i9 is not a competitor to Magny Cours since i9 is a desktop CPU and probably will at least twice cheaper then a cheapest Magny Cours (without considering matherboard prices). Nehalem-EX (8 cores, 4 channel mem, 24MB L3) is a direct competitor of Magny Cours.
Still new AMD platform has very good bandwidth per socket with its 4 mem channels.
09-12-2009, 11:49 AM
LaMpiR

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Originally Posted by kl0012

I suppose that AMD's result was obtained on dual-cpu platform, so actually there were 24 threads, not 12. Also Core i9 is not a competitor to Magny Cours since i9 is a desktop CPU and probably will at least twice cheaper then a cheapest Magny Cours (without considering matherboard prices). Nehalem-EX (8 cores, 4 channel mem, 24MB L3) is a direct competitor of Magny Cours.
Still new AMD platform has very good bandwidth per socket with its 4 mem channels.

I know you can't compare those to directly but still. Idea that it's dual socket crossed my mind also but didn't know that results were on 24 threads.
Tnx for clarifying ;)
09-12-2009, 01:39 PM
informal

Also there was some thermal throttling at OCed clocks due to heat and results in wprime 1024 are not scaling very well.With better cooling(non stock) that issue could be cleared up.
09-12-2009, 01:44 PM
Chri$ch

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaMpiR

I've been looking at this and here it is compared to some new Intel I9 cpu.
AMD Magny 3Ghz 12 cores - 12 threads:
32M - 3.539 sec
1024M - 75.768 sec

Isn´t it 24 cores / 24 threads (@ 3Ghz) ? (12 cores per processor)

edit: 24 cores...

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4831/wprimetask.jpg
09-17-2009, 08:24 PM
takealready

:shocked: This thread should have a XXX rating. :shocked:

That's unreal. You'll never have to buy another cpu again with that much raw power.

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