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Are the 800 series chipsets coming out that early? As far as a desktop version of the 6-core, that's still just a fantasy as far as I can tell. I haven't seen AMD mention that one is coming. Surely it will, eventually, but I don't think it's planned for this year. If so, that also makes me wonder if it will come on 32nm.
I've pretty much settled on this board now. Time to get it ordered, along with some RAM. I'm hoping to luck out with processor pricing over the next couple of weeks--at least until my next check.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
Can you run just a single CPU in a dual board and purchase a second one later on? Would make the idea even more appealing, to me at least haha.
Sure, you can run with just one CPU. You just can't use that socket's memory slots of course, but otherwise it's perfectly functional. I ran my Tyan S2912 with one Opteron 2350 and 4GB of RAM until I was able to afford the second chip, for instance.
Doh now it's even more tempting.
Damn I can almost say that those server CPUs are cheap... Selling my current system and getting a cheap-as-possible dual-socket one and clock it is tempting lmao! :D
EDIT: Particle I looked at that motherboard specs. It seems you are limited to 1.8v on the RAM so think carefully when buying em.
Overclockin hex core, O Ya! Just get 2431 get base clock to 316 (x12) and you got 3.8. :banana:
I wonder how well the power systems on mother boards can handle overclock hex-core. As well as how high you can get base clock and how much voltage it will allow you to give.
Newegg has 12 Opteron 2427s in stock by the looks of it.
ALSO: The HP WX9400 motherboard is apparently a rebadged Tyan S2915-E. The S2915-E is 6-core ready, has 4 PCIe (2 x8s and 2 x16s), 8 SAS, and 6 SATA II ports. The neat part is that the WX9400 mobo can be found for $150-200 on eBay in good quanitity from HK and China. It'll just take a little bit to get over here, but it'll be inexpensive. I wonder if they can be ran with the Tyan BIOS image. If so, they'll be 6-core ready too...AND CHEAP as heck.
Update: It appears that the HP XW9400 motherboard has gone through five revisions, and they may not all be -E variants. -005 was made to support the new Istanbul processors if I have researched properly, so that probably means -004 and before are not split plane boards (and thus non -E revision based).
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a bit u can see here, one moderator form CZ (czech republic) has opterons "istanbul"
http://pctforum.tyden.cz/viewtopic.p...30229#p7830229
some CInebench 32/64 bit, superpi, wprime
flank3r, can you ask him to try to overclock it? and also i wonder if cool n quiet might of effect performance on it.
he sended it to next editors :(. Hwe has Opteron only short term
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If I was him I would of said they got lost in the mail and kept em. :D
Anyways thanks for links flank3r
It's too bad he only had the one unit, too. I checked out his mobo--it's in one of those XW9400 workstation motherboards.
Yeah, to bad... if only someone else here would was getting 2 of them to show what it can do;)
Particle, what type of coolin/cooler were you thinking for your future hex-es?
Actually, I've been having trouble finding "good" heatsinks for Socket F. Most stuff produced seems to be geared toward servers (non-overclocking, loud). I found one that seems like it's meant for people like us, but it's pretty expensive. I suppose there's some irony there considering a $65 heatsink expensive when we're talking about a $1400+ project at this point.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/69...939_940_F.html
I'm also having a hard time with if I should buy it or not. I haven't spent any money in months and thus have saved up quite a surplus over my "save this much" line I normally keep.
Here are my current intentions:
Decided to go Supermicro instead of Tyan (S2915-E):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813182114
Opteron 2427s:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819105255
Might buy tonight. Looking for input before spending this much money though. I'm doing this as much out of what I think is community curiosity as I am for myself, so I hope there's actually that interest from the people here.
You said overclocking, so that is a quite steady heatsink for your purpose... But it shouldn't be that hard to mod on a cheaper cooler?Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
Also are you certain that board has overclocking capabilities? I know loads of those dual-socket boards does atleast on the Intel side...
The CPU only has a x11 multiplier so that meens you need to clock HTT quite high... Would be good with the 2431 model for an extra multi but that does increase price alot, but we don't know how well Istanbul actually can clock so perhaps it's worth those extra $400 if you can afford it? :confused:
Can't wait for your build man gonna be so awesome haha :up:
DOOOO IITTT!!!! Im following this intently, are you going to beef up the GPU capabilities.. I would be intrigued to know how well this would run a decently threaded game.
Initially, it'll have a Radeon 4850. I normally run two of those in XF, but since this is an nVidia chipset board that option is unavailable. Yes, it can be overclocked. I overclocked another nForce Professional 3600 chipset board a while back--a Tyan S2912.
I'd ultimately want to get an X2 card probably, but due to the money involved that may wait until the 5k cards launch this fall.
I also would of agreed for high multi. 11 x 300 is only 3.3jigaherz, 12 x 300 is 3.6 jiga.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartidiot89
My vote is for Opteron 2427. Just because of price.
So particle, dose the board need 20+4 & 8 pin power connectors or 20+4 & 8 & 4?
Also it almost looked like on that board they wanted to have holes for am2 bracket, but decided not to.
Cant wait to see pic of this system. :)
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Originally Posted by Particle
Particle, the Zalman 9500 works outstandingly well in those Dual Socket F Supermicro Boards:up:
The Super Micro H8DAi-2 is the board you want! Also as a side note Supermicro will always be the better choice over TYAN which are very problematic compared to Supermicro boards just check out 2CPU Forum and you will see the same over and over.
Talk to Dave Graham on 2CPU Forum he will give you the correct jist on what you seek.
Are you sure? As far as I can tell, the 9500s don't have Socket F mounting gear.
Look on 2CPU Forum and you will see that there are lots of people that have used them in their builds and have posted pics:)
You can ask "Jus" (Ed) on the Forum he is a friend of mine and Ed also works with Dave Graham and sells the Areca Raid Controllers for Daves business.
you should just use the 4850 you already have and wait to get a 5870 when they come out. That should be really powerful by itself so you wont need any crossfire stuff.Either that, or get a pair of GTX300 series cards and run SLI since the board supports that :)
Ok just thinking about BIOS support but I guess you know what you're doing with that amount of cash :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Particle
Can't wait to see if Istanbul can clock and thus see if it could migrate to desktops:shocked: