MA790X / MA790XT-UD4P 790X bugs fixes etc etc.....

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06-06-2009, 06:55 PM
chew*

OK guys I am playing on the 790FX-UD5P and I think i have your issues figured out.........

You guys have no Port 80 diagnostic cards and are impatient ;)

Try setting +.250 NB vid and 2600-2700 NB speeds...........wait a good minute.......before you decide that its not going to boot........Its going through a cycle when you change NB speed..........

I just passed cinebench 4050mhz cpu and 2700 NB with according to AOD 1.1NB vid ;) so I would say that its just being reported wrong.

So once again like I stated you can send images to gigabyte till your hearts content........If you do not send them a shot of bios setting and a multimeter readout they will not take you serious ;)

I will see if i can figure out the reason its taking so long to apply the settings and see if we can speed it up a tad......
06-06-2009, 07:20 PM
villa1n

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

OK guys I am playing on the 790FX-UD5P and I think i have your issues figured out.........

You guys have no Port 80 diagnostic cards and are impatient ;)

Try setting +.250 NB vid and 2600-2700 NB speeds...........wait a good minute.......before you decide that its not going to boot........Its going through a cycle when you change NB speed..........

I just passed cinebench 4050mhz cpu and 2700 NB with according to AOD 1.1NB vid ;) so I would say that its just being reported wrong.

So once again like I stated you can send images to gigabyte till your hearts content........If you do not send them a shot of bios setting and a multimeter readout they will not take you serious ;)

I will see if i can figure out the reason its taking so long to apply the settings and see if we can speed it up a tad......

So set NBvid +.250v and change the multi to a boot? Should i try a lower divider and boost the cpu fsb? I just want more memory stability, i know with 8gb of ram my oc potential is lower, but if i could get it to 3.7 i d be happy :)
06-06-2009, 07:45 PM
chew*

Ehh i'm running 225 fsb but only to run the ram at specs.....post a screenie in a few trying to get 2900 benchable...........
06-06-2009, 08:23 PM
villa1n

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

Ehh i'm running 225 fsb but only to run the ram at specs.....post a screenie in a few trying to get 2900 benchable...........

yeah bumped the fsb to 210, have my rame (ddr2 800) clocked to 820mhz, 1.8 stock volts, to 2.0 and tried the + .250 nb vid.. booted no problem :) Ran OCCT, detected a core error on core1 with cpu volts at 1.475 .. not sure how to tell which core i unlocked when i put on hybrid.. so for now, 3.5ghz is 24/7 stable, with 2200 nb, nbvid +.200, and multi 17.5 , fsb 200.. i ll try again tommorow, gonna watch some robin hood first ^^

Thanks for all your input by the way, its invaluable :)
06-06-2009, 11:55 PM
JCRSystem

Hi...
(copy and pate form other post)
I need help with the bios integrated in the Jmicron chip, the bios is very old and I have problems with Linux, in Linux the HDD connected in the Jmicron sata ports is unrecognized.

Can anybody create a custom bios thats contains the last jmicron bios?
(I not use the F5A bios jet)

I know the jmicron sata have some insures, but I use to connect the E-sata cables here.

The jmicron sata have S.M.A.R.T. in AHCI mode but the SB750 sata not. (or I do not activate).

The official Jimcron site have a change log for the bios.
ftp://driver.jmicron.com.tw/jmb36x/O...ase%20note.txt

The board have the 1.06.59 bios but the jmicron last bios is 1.07.00.

See yaa...
06-07-2009, 01:25 AM
FlanK3r

Chew (and others too), i post my BIOS set. MB= MA790X-UD4
With first set my PC not post, i must reset CMOS:
How u see, i have here NB only 2400MHz and set problem NB multiplier (higher than 11x not post), i mean bug BIOS
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4...thisnopost.jpg

Beacuase at second screen BIOS is every OK, PC boot to windows normaly without problem and NB is here in addition higher:
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/667...sthisallok.jpg
06-07-2009, 02:26 AM
SoulsCollective

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlanK3r

Chew (and others too), i post my BIOS set. MB= MA790X-UD4
With first set my PC not post, i must reset CMOS:
How u see, i have here NB only 2400MHz and set problem NB multiplier (higher than 11x not post), i mean bug BIOS

*pic snip*

Dude...your pics are massive. Thumbnails or lower res, please - not everyone has a 30" monitor.
06-07-2009, 09:08 AM
chew*

[QUOTE=FlanK3r;3834021]Chew (and others too), i post my BIOS set. MB= MA790X-UD4
With first set my PC not post, i must reset CMOS:
How u see, i have here NB only 2400MHz and set problem NB multiplier (higher than 11x not post), i mean bug BIOS
[IMG]http://img188.

Beacuase at second screen BIOS is every OK, PC boot to windows normaly without problem

pc doesn't post or doesn't post fast enough............

I have a port 80 card.....I can see what the board is doing............It is doing something when you change NB multi........and literally resets itself 3 times before it posts.........which takes a little while......
06-07-2009, 06:28 PM
Daveburt714

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

Try setting +.250 NB vid and 2600-2700 NB speeds...........wait a good minute.......before you decide that its not going to boot........Its going through a cycle when you change NB speed...

I tried this chew* (@ 2600nb), and it didn't work, the machine shut down and never rebooted. I even took a shower waiting for it to come around, nothing short of a CMOS reset would get it to post again. (It appears my chip just won't do 2600nb at reasonable volts)...

I've been messing with this board most of the day and even though the monitoring software only shows IMC changes when it's done through software it does seem that the bios is making some kind of voltage change on the IMC (I can't imagine I'd get 2400nb @ 1.20v's)...

I managed to get the system to a point where I'm pretty happy with the Clocks/Voltages without having to use PhMSR Tweaker, which is a good thing. :D

CLICKABLE Bios Shot:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...7_BiosShot.png

CLICKABLE Stable Clocks (new 24/7 Bios only settings):
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...ssBiosOnly.jpg

The Bios "software hooks" are terrible to say the least. Along with the PCI-e problem, adjusting HTLink multi with AOD doesn't work either....
I'm not really sure whats going on without test points and a DMM but at least I got an unlocked 4th with clocks and V's I can live with.
To be quite honest I'm getting tired of :bananal: with it for now... :p:

Hopefully they won't give up on this board and the next bios will fix some of this squirleyness.
06-08-2009, 04:04 PM
gOtVoltage

UPDATE THE X4_550Beast lives...time to play UD4P..goodness

First off i set Defaults and unloaded the 720 andInstalled 550BE.

1st BOOT In Hybrid Mode,, F5A Bios UNLOCKED .

Next :
Noticed is Vcore is 1.35v Default.

Then:
NBvid is @ 1.1vid Default... This is lower than my 720 @1.2vid

Now :

Im getting and Idea where the Temps are and will slowly bump up the Volts to see how the Heat rises.

Interesting :

It may be a 955 variant. Its temps are 26c Idle Bios @ 3.1ghz X4cores and 1.34volts .

The 720 was 28c Idles@ stock 2.8ghz X4cores 1.3volts.

It could be the default NBvid too. Only way ill know is to raise it up some:yepp:

Last serial 90020........Step is 0921 APAW:D

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...4P_F5Abios.jpg

Will post clocks later,, Im seeing what volts this thing likes and if the NB goes higher than the 720 @ stock NBvid volts.
06-08-2009, 04:30 PM
chew*

I will address the NB issue shortly however I know for a fact its not voltage related and +.20 is not enough for 2600NB on this board currently......I believe I know where the issue lies.....most likely the same issue the ddr III board had with voltage is not applied in the correct order for boot......

It can be clocked...but not easily.....I'm running into similar issues on the UD5P ddr II, I can get crazy NB speed but it takes some serious finesse to do so on the F4A bios which should be public and the same or similar to what your on.
06-08-2009, 04:52 PM
gOtVoltage

Cool ...thats one to look forward too.

This 550 is Not a 940 , i think its of 955 bloodlines.

Stock volts @1.35v 3500mhz CPUx4cores and NB @ 2200mhz 1.1volts

I m gonna see what she can do on default Volts with and stock ram for now.

Once i get a good Idea what she may want ,,then ill start turning her On with some Heat:ROTF:

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...ts_3500mhz.jpg
06-08-2009, 07:06 PM
villa1n

Quote:

Originally Posted by gOtVoltage

Cool ...thats one to look forward too.

This 550 is Not a 940 , i think its of 955 bloodlines.

Stock volts @1.35v 3500mhz CPUx4cores and NB @ 2200mhz 1.1volts

I m gonna see what she can do on default Volts with and stock ram for now.

Once i get a good Idea what she may want ,,then ill start turning her On with some Heat:ROTF:

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...ts_3500mhz.jpg

Wow, very nice, seems the older silicon, 940 derivatives don't play as nice as these 955 almost but not quite made its. Very nice chip by the looks of it, better than the 720's haha.
06-08-2009, 07:51 PM
gOtVoltage

Uh Oh ,, UD4P..

it was probally me but ,,

Would Running 3900mhz X4cores with too low volts cause the (Bios to Corrupt) when shutting down from windows?

1.45v on CPU and .100+NB.. It recovered to F2bios . I have never had a Bios get corrupt when shutting down Vista.

I ran 32m then I restarted PC. The HD light stayed on and i never rebooted. I had to pull power after switching PSU off . When the Bios Came back it Said Corrupted,, i reflashed F5A again.

Added some volts to Cpu and NB since and Bios seems fine now.
Upped the Volts to 1.47v Vcore and NB @ 1.2v:D
06-08-2009, 07:53 PM
chew*

Yah that can happen sometimes on a failed OC.......Board is very good at recovering though.

I have yet to smoke the bios beyond recoverable yet.
06-08-2009, 07:57 PM
villa1n

Quote:

Originally Posted by gOtVoltage

Uh Oh ,, UD4P..

it was probally me but ,,

Would Running 3900mhz X4cores with too low volts cause the (Bios to Corrupt) when shutting down from windows?

1.45v on CPU and .100+NB.. It recovered to F2bios . I have never had a Bios get corrupt when shutting down Vista.

I ran 32m then I restarted PC. The HD light stayed on and i never rebooted. I had to pull power after switching PSU off . When the Bios Came back it Said Corrupted,, i reflashed F5A again.

Added some volts to Cpu and NB since and Bios seems fine now.
Upped the Volts to 1.47v Vcore and NB @ 1.2v:D

Very nice! What kind of Stability tests you running at those sets? OCCT? prime? what temps... I m jealous, haha building a pc out, but almost tempted to switch in a 550 be for my 720 be haha.
06-08-2009, 08:42 PM
gOtVoltage

Quote:

Originally Posted by villa1n

Very nice! What kind of Stability tests you running at those sets? OCCT? prime? what temps... I m jealous, haha building a pc out, but almost tempted to switch in a 550 be for my 720 be haha.

Well So far the UD4P is holding its own.

Just Overclcoking in 100Mhz increments watching temps and load..

I dont think i have pushed things yet,, Slowly bringing up the Volts .Havnt even Tweaked Ram and Nb.

Hmm ,Stability im using 32m /Tropics/ and some Crysis between 100mhz on CPU for Now.

Just trying to see where the max Clocks are. Then ill back it down a little and probally run Intel Burn test, OCCT or some other Stuff . So much fun ATM. $109 is more than Justified and the Mobo $50 grabbed @Half off.Still less than a 955:D

I am gonna 1.55-1.65..:wasntme: Im actually pushing mY PSU/Mobo harder than the CPU , I think.

720 maxed@ 3950 on X3cores .

The X550BEeeastAlready @ 4000+ with X4cores and 1.49volts:D

I think I had too low Volts when i corrupted the Bios LOL.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...lt_4000mhz.jpg
06-08-2009, 09:33 PM
villa1n

Quote:

Originally Posted by gOtVoltage

Well So far the UD4P is holding its own.

Just Overclcoking in 100Mhz increments watching temps and load..

I dont think i have pushed things yet,, Slowly bringing up the Volts .Havnt even Tweaked Ram and Nb.

Hmm ,Stability im using 32m /Tropics/ and some Crysis between 100mhz on CPU for Now.

Just trying to see where the max Clocks are. Then ill back it down a little and probally run Intel Burn test, OCCT or some other Stuff . So much fun ATM. $109 is more than Justified and the Mobo $50 grabbed @Half off.Still less than a 955:D

I am gonna 1.55-1.65..:wasntme: Im actually pushing mY PSU/Mobo harder than the CPU , I think.

720 maxed@ 3950 on X3cores .

The X550BEeeastAlready @ 4000+ with X4cores and 1.49volts:D

I think I had too low Volts when i corrupted the Bios LOL.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...lt_4000mhz.jpg

Very Nice...now that is Value!! haha those 60+ temps.. are those GFX or is it getting that hot at 1.49v ? 3.9 @ 1.47v stable would be ridiculously awesome for 109$ haha.
06-08-2009, 10:43 PM
gOtVoltage

My Hot A$$3870x2 lol is 60+c's

This chip is a Nice 28C idle and Mid 40's loaded. Im past 4100mhz:D
06-08-2009, 10:47 PM
chew*

I feel left out, I want to murder a dual core to :(
06-08-2009, 11:39 PM
gOtVoltage

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

I feel left out, I want to murder a dual core to :(

There fun. trying for 4200 but am tired lol.. Im just slowly bumping volts watching temps..Keeping NB @1.3votls max so far up 4150mhz . Not worried about High NB.. i think thats this chips weakness. Or the Imc.

I forget this is a Dualcore .. Im thinking 955's can do 4200mhz with low volts.

Then i look and im still below 1.53volts :rofl:

Well since the reflash its rock n roll ......

@CHEW,, i can run 2800nb @ 1.35vid @ 4000mhz. I can also use 11/12/13/14/NBmulti no problem. I knew the 720 had a hard time with this Bios. The 550BE runs just like a 955 to the T.. a 550 on AM2+ with decent mobo is amazing.

UPDATE:

I tried Two cores.. it clocks the Same lol , cant get higher than 4200mhz no matter the Volts wierd.

Mine clocks best with Low HTT and using 20x CPUmulti to get up to 4200mhz Max in TwoCores ..After a lot of Hangs in 2xmode i just went back to Fourcores @4160/2700 with 4xcores in hybrid now.:shrug:

It seems harder for me to get Two cores as stable vs 4cores.

I Know its Bios related and Not the Chip ,r my Chip would not Be able to Bench at 4160mhz.

This is with the Dual Bios Function (Normal vs Hybrid)and the Normal Mode seems harder to tweak. I think the UD4P F5a Bios is better optimized for Hybrid Mode.
06-09-2009, 07:41 PM
villa1n

Quote:

Originally Posted by gOtVoltage

There fun. trying for 4200 but am tired lol.. Im just slowly bumping volts watching temps..Keeping NB @1.3votls max so far up 4150mhz . Not worried about High NB.. i think thats this chips weakness. Or the Imc.

I forget this is a Dualcore .. Im thinking 955's can do 4200mhz with low volts.

Then i look and im still below 1.53volts :rofl:

Well since the reflash its rock n roll ......

@CHEW,, i can run 2800nb @ 1.35vid @ 4000mhz. I can also use 11/12/13/14/NBmulti no problem. I knew the 720 had a hard time with this Bios. The 550BE runs just like a 955 to the T.. a 550 on AM2+ with decent mobo is amazing.

UPDATE:

I tried Two cores.. it clocks the Same lol , cant get higher than 4200mhz no matter the Volts wierd.

Mine clocks best with Low HTT and using 20x CPUmulti to get up to 4200mhz Max in TwoCores ..After a lot of Hangs in 2xmode i just went back to Fourcores @4160/2700 with 4xcores in hybrid now.:shrug:

It seems harder for me to get Two cores as stable vs 4cores.

I Know its Bios related and Not the Chip ,r my Chip would not Be able to Bench at 4160mhz.

This is with the Dual Bios Function (Normal vs Hybrid)and the Normal Mode seems harder to tweak. I think the UD4P F5a Bios is better optimized for Hybrid Mode.

Wow. Very nice, so whats the highest stable 4core mhz/volts vs 2core... Also these are definitely a competitor for the e8400 in Oc'ing if this is a trend.!!
06-09-2009, 08:36 PM
JCRSystem

Hi again...
Just notice that Gigabyte release the bios F5...

http://asia.giga-byte.com/FileList/B...0x-ud4p_f5.exe

Any change please comment..

See yaa...
06-09-2009, 09:02 PM
Daveburt714

I just wanted to let everyone know I got a reply from GBT Tech Support concerning the CPU-NB vid setting (I linked them to post #43 in this thread).

They sent me pics showing Bios screens w/DMM readings for the "NB Voltage Control" (chipset). Although thats not the setting I was concerned about, I looked at my message again and realized it was my fault because that is what I highlighted in my bios on that message and I actually had my CPU-NB vid at stock in that pic and on that run.

I take back anything bad I said about their Tech Support, it seems like they are paying attention to their AMD customers again! And it's appreciated...:up:

That being said (and I could be wrong), I'm still not convinced that the "CPU NB VID Control" (Integrated Memory Controller) is working properly on the MA790XT-UD4P, but I won't pester them anymore until I figure it out for myself...

It's quite possible I'm just a dumbazz, but I'll get a DMM and find out for sure.... Stay tuned, I'll let you guys know one way or the other... ;)
06-09-2009, 09:04 PM
chew*

Thats Ok dave.

I tuned them in on where I think the problem is, possibly why that bios just popped up.

It's kinda of hard for me to actually pinpoint the cause without the actual board in question here....Best I can do is hope my board has same issue.

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