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What did you have to do to get them working? I don't know if its different than my 5900, but did you have to change more than one thing? I only did what Kunaak suggested which is renaming the 5800 line to a 5900, however it did not work...Quote:
Originally posted by zakelwe
Finally managed to get the 44.03's installed
Hi Soulburner,Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
What did you have to do to get them working? I don't know if its different than my 5900, but did you have to change more than one thing? I only did what Kunaak suggested which is renaming the 5800 line to a 5900, however it did not work...
I had the same sort of problem as you where the screen went black with " flashes and fizzles " on it, for want of a better word, but I rebooted and it was Ok.
This is what I found worked
1) Installed 52.16 and this made a 52.16 directory in the unzip win2kXP directory.
2) Copied the inf file over from 52.16 with all the later card names in it.
3) Uninstalled the drivers.
4) Rebooted, Microsft hardware wizard pops up, pointed it in the direction of the 44.03 folder. Various files are missing so you have to copy them over from 52.16 as well.
Then the install finished. I rebooted and it sort of worked OK though you can't use display control panel for the video card settings as they are not there, I am using Gainward expert tool.
Another problem is that if I did a whole run it would drop to lower scores so maybe it doesn't handle 3d mode with the 44.03 drivers and so that is why you cannot use them ?? Not sure.
Just doing some more tests now.
Good luck.
Regards
Andy
PS Another problem is everybody reporting a "bugged" nature to Futuremark as they don't spot the drivers :) They'll probablty keep getting removed !
BTW, which 5700U are you guys using and what were your OC's at stock, if you even bothered to try stock. :p:
Zakelwe, your 3DMark link is invalid. Did you get a better run or have they pulled the bench from the Orb due to the hacked drivers?
Soulburner, I am not sure why you cannot get the 4403's to work with your 5900. I simply installed them from the .exe and didn't have a single problem. They seemed to work pretty good, although I could only break about 18k.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7046973
No, I use the 44.03s for benching as indicated in my signature. I can't get anything earlier, such as 43.51 to work.
Sorry, in your link to 3dmark2001 it says you have an R9800 and in the 3DMark2003 it says you are using the 5175s on the FX 5900. I no longer have the 5900 and wont get another for a few weeks. I wish I had it now to test some drivers.
EDIT: I just modded the 4251's and put them in a .zip , but I have no where to upload them. I don't even have the 5700 Ultra in my sig anymore to test them. I RMA'd them due to being poor OCers. Just have a Ti4200 for now.
Whoa how did my 3DMark link change? What the......
Fixed....I guess...:stick:
I took it out SPQQKY as ai got a better 18300 score, see first page just below the Bulgarians. Although you gain lots on nature and drag low you lose out on a couple of the other games compared to 52.16, though you still get about 400 points or so.Quote:
Originally posted by SPQQKY
BTW, which 5700U are you guys using and what were your OC's at stock, if you even bothered to try stock. :p:
Zakelwe, your 3DMark link is invalid. Did you get a better run or have they pulled the bench from the Orb due to the hacked drivers?
Soulburner, I am not sure why you cannot get the 4403's to work with your 5900. I simply installed them from the .exe and didn't have a single problem. They seemed to work pretty good, although I could only break about 18k.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7046973
The card did do 590/1070 with stock volts and cooler on it ( Gainward 5700U Golden Sample ) but last night it would only do 580/1060, maybe because of the drivers or it was a bit warmer.
Regards
Andy
The 43.51's were kind to me, but my card was already supported :p This thread just reminded me of the speed i had in the past :D
Hey guys,
Interesting read... any possibilities in replacing my 9800XT with a 5950Ultra with those 43.51's, cooling it to -50C and juicing the heck out of it?? 250fps Nature with the FX-51 @ 2.9gHz??
C
Might turn in a nice result :) I still think 44.03's are slightly better, but that's in my rig, yours might prefer 43.51's.Quote:
Originally posted by charlie
Hey guys,
Interesting read... any possibilities in replacing my 9800XT with a 5950Ultra with those 43.51's, cooling it to -50C and juicing the heck out of it?? 250fps Nature with the FX-51 @ 2.9gHz??
C
Let us know how you get on !
Regards
Andy
I talked to OPP about that Charlie....he seemed to agree that it would turn very high numbers considering he had one at #1 back at 25.9k or so...and so did DJ...
But can you use an older driver with the 5950? FUGGER tried, didn't he? I don't remember if it worked or not.
Did anyone ever figure out how to install older drivers on a 5700 ultra and actually make them work correctly?
I have been tryin to do this all different ways suggested here and a few things I tried on my own.
If I do get them to install all it does is lock up when I run 3dmark, and the control panel won't function.
This is really starting to piss me off as I'm sure this card is capable of so much more,
if I could just get away from these POS 50x drivers.
Peace
WannaGoFast
Bit tricky this, I managed to install them twice on two different hard drives but using a different technique each time but I didn't have your problem to get around, mine was no screen image.Quote:
Originally posted by WannaGoFast
Did anyone ever figure out how to install older drivers on a 5700 ultra and actually make them work correctly?
I have been tryin to do this all different ways suggested here and a few things I tried on my own.
If I do get them to install all it does is lock up when I run 3dmark, and the control panel won't function.
This is really starting to piss me off as I'm sure this card is capable of so much more,
if I could just get away from these POS 50x drivers.
Peace
WannaGoFast
Two things to note about the older drivers, you cannot clock your 5700U as high with them for some reason ( seen by both me and TodB aka mollov ) and also the card downclocks itself to 2d core and ram more easily.
Regards
Andy
Does this work for 5950?
it should.
I seen fugger doing this with his 27k score.
Zakelwe...would you recommend the FX5700U to any1 ? because Im really considering to buy it
Hi,Quote:
Originally posted by Bra!nFreeZe^
Zakelwe...would you recommend the FX5700U to any1 ? because Im really considering to buy it
If you are going to go for Xt9600 or 5700U then I would say get the 5700U because unless you are Mr Icee you will be able to overclock the 5700U a lot higher.
If you are just looking at cards in general for games and benching then I would say
Ati AA is a lot better than nvidia's AA
nvidia still do better drivers ( but not by as much as previously).
If you can afford more than the 5700U then I would seriously consider the Gainward Ultra/1200Xp Golden sample product code 4981
This has the same memory as the 5900U and although default clocks are 400/850 Gainward guarrantee 440/900. This is 5900U speeds more or less and you could probably get it a lot higher.
The 5950U is only 475/950, so with a bit of luck you could have 5950U performance for 5900 price ( which is cheap).
Also, 5900 is 4x2 and 5700u is 4x1, so that is a big difference in Dx7 games.
If I only could have one card then that is the card I would have.
Regards
Andy
Yup works with 5950U like a charm :D
Has anyone tried the 45.32's on the 5700 Ultra? I just was browsing at 3DChipset in the unofficial nVidia drivers and downloaded them out of curiosity. These are the only 4x.xx drivers I have seen with the NV36 (5700 Ultra) in the driver files. It is only named NV36, so I am guessing these were a beta drivers before the official release of the chip. I edited mine to read as a 5700 Ultra, but I am just to damn lazy to test them out as I have just set everything up for DX9 and gaming using the 5303's and don't want to reinstall. Any guinea pigs. I am hoping they will give a balance of performance between the 4x.xx and the 5x.xx
I try 45.32, 45.23 on the 5700 Ultra. They recognize the card like NV36 but the scores with Aquamark3 are between 30.000 and 31.000. The best score I take it with 56.72 WHQL.
Chaintech FX5700U 128MB - 475/906@525/1020MHz
Thanks Kunaak,
Good to see that someone stepped up & did such a good job on how to "force" older nVidia drivers to work with the newer cards...
Makes me want to go back to the drawing board & do a "how to" for the ATI drivers...
/reminds meself to get my greasy little hands on an ATI X800 series VC...
Cheers,
Minnyboy
wow, this was a interesting read to see again...
thanks Minnyboy for the compliment :D
Agreed this is a very useful thread.
I want to see if the 6800 series can use 44.03 and whether the new architecture like those drivers or not.
First person to do it gets a beer.
Regards
Andy ( the landlord )
well, they do say the 6800 is the exact same card as the 5950 except it has some bridge chip on it...
Can't find the 43.30 drivers.
Link?