350Mhz HTT on Phenom II reached.

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12-29-2008, 04:10 AM
Lightman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oese

i wonder how high the nb will clock probably. any info on this already? I've seen shots with 2,6ghz but dunno if those clocks are stable.. because with my 9750 that has mainly been holding me back using cnq during 24/7 use, whereas htt300 worked here on agena also:

http://www.abload.de/thumb/russmark33ghz1200mhz7oh0.jpg

i wonder if i could reach ht3.0/ht3.1 speeds (2,8ghz/3,0ghz) with nb/imc?

It was stated somewhere in this thread that max. for this particular CPU sample is 26xxMHz NB clock.
2.6GHz NB was stable. :)
12-29-2008, 04:38 AM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

it IS vista ;)

yup vista eats quite a bit of performance on 3dmark. I wonder why the used win xp for that test. :p:

Also there is quite some fluctuation in points with a same clocked cpu and cpu score. Just look at the orb.
12-29-2008, 05:42 AM
OverClocker_gr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macadamia

In general, Phenom kept up like that.

But I dunno, it seems like HWBox is getting... wronger and wronger?

p/s: CONFIRMED. HWBox performance is waaaay borked.

Their 3Ghz performance CPU score = 4136

If we consider ideal linear scaling to 3.8Ghz, we get only 5238. That's still WAY below Toppc's score (5682).

Probably HWBox has a 10% deficit on any compute intensive benchmarks?

pp/s: Could be Vista SP1, looking into performance impact as of now.

what is wrong with you man.
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/116/06uc9.jpg

if there is any performance loss at the deneb,the same loss will be for all the other cpus
12-29-2008, 06:28 AM
Rammsteiner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hornet331

hmm gpu score is higher but cpu score is a lot lower. There are ~100 points less on SM2.0/3.0 scores. Wonder where that comes from.

As others said before, this has been always the case.

Tony's comparison with a Yorkfield and a Agena B3 at the same clocks (think it was 3.4Ghz) shown the same score. They had same RAM speed/timings, same GPU etc, yet Agena B3 managed to get a higher GPU score while it had a lower CPU score, but it had the same final points as Yorkfield. But I think Phenom scales better with GPU's.

I did a small calculation a time ago, showing that Yorkfield scaled actually very bad with GPU's, while Phenom did it better. But well, this was often useless because of the lack of clocking on Agena B3's (although they got better after a while).
12-29-2008, 07:48 AM
Toppc

4.2G CPU-Z DONE

BUT CAN'T RUN ANYTHING

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X4940/4200.JPG
12-29-2008, 07:54 AM
Smalltimer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toppc

4.2G CPU-Z DONE

BUT CAN'T RUN ANYTHING

Is this on air, water or something else?
To bad you can't run anything...
Would love to see some numbers at this speed.
Very insipring
12-29-2008, 08:11 AM
Toppc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smalltimer

Is this on air, water or something else?
To bad you can't run anything...
Would love to see some numbers at this speed.
Very insipring

AIR COOLING
Xigmatek HDT S-1284C

http://www.xigmatek.com/images/hdts1284-bg2.jpg
12-29-2008, 08:54 AM
Caveman787

Is that the old version with the heatpipes still far apart?

Or are they once again making a new version?
12-29-2008, 08:56 AM
Stuen4y

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toppc

4.2G CPU-Z DONE

BUT CAN'T RUN ANYTHING

Can you reach the same clocks only with multiplier manipulation and if you can, please post some results with HT link oc and with multiplier.
As you see, it's not Achilles, so it should be with closer pipes position.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caveman787

Is that the old version with the heatpipes still far apart?

Or are they once again making a new version?

As you see, it's not Achilles, so it should be with closer pipes position. In Europe it's called S1284EE(Enhanced Edition), but as we see in Asia the name is different. @Toppc, could you tell the whole name of the cooler, what means this "C" at the end.
12-29-2008, 09:26 AM
Lastviking

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toppc

4.2G CPU-Z DONE

BUT CAN'T RUN ANYTHING

Ram:27776MB , where can i buy so much ram? :cool:
12-29-2008, 09:30 AM
Toppc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caveman787

Is that the old version with the heatpipes still far apart?

Or are they once again making a new version?

new version!!

HDT S-1284C

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalercbb/HDT_S1284/2.JPG

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalercbb/HDT_S1284/5.JPG

Appear on market for three months in taiwan
12-29-2008, 09:50 AM
Toppc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lastviking

Ram:27776MB , where can i buy so much ram? :cool:

Should be a miscarriage of justice
12-29-2008, 10:12 AM
Caveman787

Ah so s1284EE here is the same as s1284C there.

How were temps when you got it running stable overclocked?
I'm assuming you got a slightly lower overclock stable before you tried 4.2, just wondering because the s1284EE is a wonderful cooler and with how cool these things seem to run the temps should be really good.
12-29-2008, 10:27 AM
diekul

Hi Toppc what is the highest stable oc you can get with a x14 multi? That is the same multi as the 920 uses.
12-29-2008, 10:59 AM
roofsniper

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondhahnmrt85

Very impressive for non BE CPU's :up:
Can you test with default multiplier at 350MHz HTT = 5250MHz :D :D with subzero cooling definitely :cool:

all phenom II cpus have unlocked multis just it seems they are not using the BE after every cpu now since they are all BEs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toppc

4.2G CPU-Z DONE

BUT CAN'T RUN ANYTHING

still pretty impressive that you can get to 4.2ghz without raising the multi.
12-29-2008, 11:23 AM
crazydiamond

Quote:

Originally Posted by roofsniper

all phenom II cpus have unlocked multis just it seems they are not using the BE after every cpu now since they are all BEs.

are you positive about that? (honest question not being smartass :p:) i have been under the impression the 920 had locked multi over 14
12-29-2008, 12:10 PM
roofsniper

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazydiamond

are you positive about that? (honest question not being smartass :p:) i have been under the impression the 920 had locked multi over 14

i have read about it in the past but i can't be 100% sure.

Quote:

The Phenom II X4 940 and 920 will also have unlocked multipliers.

thats dated November 18th. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd...ming,6612.html

im guessing that at least for now all amd cpus are gonna have unlocked multis.
12-29-2008, 12:39 PM
Oese

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightman

It was stated somewhere in this thread that max. for this particular CPU sample is 26xxMHz NB clock.
2.6GHz NB was stable. :)

Many thanks! That would point towards a 940 then... Mmmh gotta watch things develop until end of next week ;)
01-06-2009, 03:16 AM
Toppc

UP TO 360

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X49400/360CPUZ.JPG
01-06-2009, 06:12 PM
nanohead

Quote:

Originally Posted by roofsniper

i have read about it in the past but i can't be 100% sure.

thats dated November 18th. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd...ming,6612.html

im guessing that at least for now all amd cpus are gonna have unlocked multis.

Yeah, thats what I'm wondering too. If they're all unlocked, I'll get the cheaper one to start, otherwise, its uptown for me
01-06-2009, 07:14 PM
charged3800z24

Quote:

Originally Posted by nanohead

Yeah, thats what I'm wondering too. If they're all unlocked, I'll get the cheaper one to start, otherwise, its uptown for me

There is a guy with the "Phenom II 920 goodness" thread, that has the 920 and I don't recall any multi OCing going on...so I don't se it being a BE. I might peak again tho.. I am board anyhow....(shhh...supose to be migrated a server);)
01-06-2009, 10:22 PM
hyc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteiner

As others said before, this has been always the case.

Tony's comparison with a Yorkfield and a Agena B3 at the same clocks (think it was 3.4Ghz) shown the same score. They had same RAM speed/timings, same GPU etc, yet Agena B3 managed to get a higher GPU score while it had a lower CPU score, but it had the same final points as Yorkfield. But I think Phenom scales better with GPU's.

I did a small calculation a time ago, showing that Yorkfield scaled actually very bad with GPU's, while Phenom did it better. But well, this was often useless because of the lack of clocking on Agena B3's (although they got better after a while).

Sounds like this is just the difference between HyperTransport and the Intel FSB. We've always known that HT is a better I/O interface. Most people assumed the difference was only important in server apps but now it's obvious that there's a noticeable difference on the desktop too.
01-07-2009, 03:09 AM
Lightman

TOPPC how you managed to climb up to 360HTT?? :up:
Voltage tuning or just simple matter of patience and pray?
01-07-2009, 03:23 AM
amdcian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toppc

UP TO 360

[IMG]_http://www.coolaler.com.tw/toppc/X49400/360CPUZ.JPG[/IMG]

Extremely impressive :shocked:

I know what my next mainboard will be :D
01-07-2009, 09:57 AM
crazydiamond

this looks to be a great board to pair w/ a 920

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