~6% increase in Vcore and 20% increase in clocks :) :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverda
I think we will see no benchmarks from sxs112 due to NDA,but it would be nice to hear some general experience he has with the chip :).
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~6% increase in Vcore and 20% increase in clocks :) :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverda
I think we will see no benchmarks from sxs112 due to NDA,but it would be nice to hear some general experience he has with the chip :).
so many cpu-z screens, but no numbers. :(
Probably a very early sample, Voltage is too high.Quote:
Originally Posted by leoy
OKTABIT POWER!!! I smell leaking screenshots with excellent overclocking results coming up...:rolleyes:
I can assure you that is not an early sample and it overclocks GREAT with air...;)Quote:
Originally Posted by gallag
Not really. Thats stock voltage (it is the same than Shanghai, 1.35v http://products.amd.com/en-us/Optero...f8=&f9=&f10=4& )Quote:
Originally Posted by gallag
Nope,default Vcore for Shanghai is the same 1.35V.And you will be amazed how "much" power it draws at default,both idle and load :). The "higher" than usual voltage seems to be pretty normal for AMD's version of 45nm(SOI) process.And that's why you will see 1.6V for air cooling being pretty normal for 3.8-4Ghz OCs.And temps will be quite surprising ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by gallag
BTW,the retail C2 stepping is in the CPuz shot.
@ dread77
I hope you can post more :D. It's getting hot in here :D.
Oktabit ftw ^^
waiting for results :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by dread77
Can't be cool with 125W TDP.Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
Oh rly :p:? I guess it depends what is cool for you? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Calmatory
125W is TDP,a requirement for cooling device,it doesn't mean it draws that much power under full load.Look at 140W 9950's,they draw less then 125W 9850s,around ~100W(and those 9850s are rated the same way..). Keep in mind this is a major improvement process wise versus 65nm,current leakage is cut down considerably and parts cope great with excess vcore.Temps are great too,on air.
You'll have to wait for the first results i guess.
My 9950(140w) idled at 1.5vcore at 25 degrees and had a max of 45-50's with true dual fan. Surprised...., and the temps should be real cause the heatsink was not that hot, my new 9950 (125) w idles at 35 and maxes at 60 with only 1.4v,With same setup... So..., nothing is impossible.;)
Interesting, If that pans out to be true then colour me impressed. Thx for the info.Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
My only concern is not the temperature of the core, it is usually just up to the cooler, but also the power it draws and how much it heats the rest of the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
Besides, I wonder why 125W TDP if the thing goes well below 110-115 W etc. Sure the lower temps with the stock cooler are better, but then again I'd rather have $10 cheaper product with 10 C higher temperature. Also lower TDP usually means lower power draw which means less excess heat and lower power bills, and it "saves climate"!
I do understand that the 45 nm with immersion lithography is a godsend for AMD when compared to their 65 nm process, and that leakage has been reduced greatly, but that does not help to convince me that the high TDP wouldn't mean high power draw, which means a lot of heat which means hot chip. :p:
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Originally Posted by informal
In mentioned OKTABIT screenshot the VCore is set in auto, and the motherboard is an ASUS M3A79-T. I can't say :D but most probably :D it can be stable with less VCore.
Most probably OKTABIT will be able to upload a couple of results just as an indication of what PhenomII is capable.:up:
TDP is not really that important. It is mainly a specification for Heatsink designers and motherboard manufactures for a worst case scenario type of thing. Like a future CPU that may have ridiculous clocks/voltagesQuote:
Originally Posted by Calmatory
Put it this way, the TDP for my 939 Opteron 165 is 110 Watts. My whole system only was drawing 180-200 Watts of AC power full CPU and 3D Load, and my power supply is only around 72% efficient. That is 130 to 140 Watts DC. That is with the Opteron Over-Volted to around 1.45 volts, @ 2.6GHz and an ATI x1800 GTO.
I still wonder why 125 W TDP if e.g. 95 W was sufficient. :shrug:
You can ask them why they rated 9950s with 140W rating at first,while it really pulled ~100W in full load :).That rating obviously is for reference only.BTW, the 2.8Ghz 920 part has the same rating of 125W,it must be "hot" too? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Calmatory
We'll have to wait and see what power draw these thing really have,another month and that will no longer be the unknown characteristic.
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Originally Posted by dread77
I'm looking forward to it :) :up:
Maybe they are leaving room for the increase in overclocking head room.
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/2935/piiyf7.jpg
I found this on another forum. Where does it come from?, does somebody know?
Also look at the II after Phenom, while early samples didn't have that. (old ones, 'Phenom tm')
Oh, lol, didn't knew it came from XS :D
Thanks Eson.
whats with the corners of the heat spreader? are they raised?
To me it looks like marks from a cooler. Agree anyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by G0ldBr1ck
My QX have some marks like that, only closer to each other.
they are going downward.. they are polished edges..not raised..Quote:
Originally Posted by prostoman