MSI X58 "Eclipse" Triple channel & Gskill 2Gx6

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10-14-2008, 06:05 AM
bartx

Incredible bandwith :eek: I'm waiting for subzero :D
10-14-2008, 10:52 AM
Mungri

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

Intel is not advising against overclocking the ram at all, and I'm not concerned with damaging the ram. Intel have advised that using more than 1.65v vdimm will damage the MCH of the nehalem cpu, hence the sticker over the ram slots of X58 boards saying exactly that.

In that case I deffinately wont be buying Nehalem.

I'll skip it and wait for the next. The only DDR3 ram you can safely use then is 1333 Mhz, not much improvement from my 1150 to bother upgrading to just for triple channel.

No 1600 - 2000 Mhz DDR3 can be used without damaging the Nehalem CPU :down:

If Intel are telling the truth that is.
10-14-2008, 11:04 AM
Hondacity

wow excellent bw and latency...

bhavy read more stuff...it won't damage the nehalem... there is a workaround by manufacturers..
10-14-2008, 02:19 PM
Mungri

More information on the MSI X58 line up here:

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,8162.html

http://www.nordichardware.com/image3.php?id=5793

X58 Platinum for me please!!!
10-14-2008, 02:26 PM
WaterFlex

TBD goes with 4xPCI-E x16! Woooooow...madness...
10-14-2008, 06:49 PM
Mungri

I still prefer the look of my lollercoaster though :(

http://img.tomshardware.com/us/2008/...c_platinum.jpg

I wish I could get exactly the same layout and cooling. Im a copper loop freak.
10-17-2008, 12:46 PM
makaka

too slow :-) , u got a crazy system congrats
10-19-2008, 08:32 AM
slim142

I CANT BELIEVE THIS
20Gb/s read is just AMAZING!

Can somebodytell me if Tripple channel memory can work as dual-channel mode too?
I might just save the money that I planned on spending on some RAM and save a little more for a Tripple Channel :D
10-19-2008, 10:17 PM
kaskuli

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhavv

Huh???

MSI are awesome. Lower price for top end stuff, and the lollercoasters are pretty and do an awesome job with cooling. They are only going upwards to me, I have no idea why people here dislike them so much.

I was going to skip Nehalem and wait for 32 nm CPU's, but I just might get tempted again by this :p:

But I would like a tripple channel motherboard with just two PCI-E slots, I dont need 3.

Just about all the DDR3 kits I see are rated for operation at 1.8-2.0v, and backed by a lifetime warranty, so I see no problem. Intel are just advising against overclocked ram, but there isnt anything wrong with it.

Cellshock 1866 Mhz triple channel kits are already available for pre order:

3x1 Gb

3x2 Gb

Really expensive, I will wait untill the G.Skill 1600 Mhz ram drops in price.

Thanks for the heads-up on the Cellshocks... they have a nasty habit of selling out fast...
10-20-2008, 05:14 AM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by slim142

Can somebodytell me if Tripple channel memory can work as dual-channel mode too?

:rofl: :confused2 :rofl: :p:
10-20-2008, 05:32 AM
CryptiK

Ok concerning the 1.65v vdimm can damage the MCH of nehalem, although that's what intel say, apparently if you keep the MCH:Vdimm ratio as close to 1:1 as possible then no damage will result, and a minimally higher vdimm is also apparently ok. The MCH voltage goes up to 1.85v, so perhaps 1.9 - 2.0v vdimm is going to be ok. I guess the guys that upgrade to the new platform and start pushing it long 24/7 can establish this as true or just talk.
10-20-2008, 05:45 AM
Gen

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhavv

I wish I could get exactly the same layout and cooling. Im a copper loop freak.

You mean your an aluminum loop freak.
10-25-2008, 12:49 AM
Mungri

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gen

You mean your an aluminum loop freak.

Nope, its all copper loops:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5844/dsc00063lh1.jpg.

Pffff.... Aluminium, ewwwww!!!

(Picture to show why I want a lollercoaster again).

I like MSI, but they are now begininning to make their motherboards more normal to fit in with the rest of the crowd.

Information on triple channel kits from OCZ and Corsair:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...php?p=12756216

http://channel.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=15971

I'll just be buying another one of these though:

http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/part...=CT25664BA1067

Bah, back in stock and I bought a pair for £54 each :(
10-25-2008, 06:49 AM
rintamarotta

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmc123

It's triple channel so 4 slots wouldn't work. It is kind of a pain though because 6 gigs may not be enough, but 12 gigs is too much and more expensive.

12Gb well for enthusiasts its cheap, i allready got 3 x Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 4Gb Kits.

One thing im shure, im going to blow up my first i7 920's MCH soon as it arrives to my door.
10-26-2008, 01:45 AM
Mungri

If you want DDR3 on the cheap, just buy these, invalidate the warranty and remove the stickers / slap on some good heatspreaders:

http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/part...KIT25664BA1339

(I posted the wrong link before to 1066 Mhz modules).

Fully equipped with brilliant D9JNM chips -

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5334/dsc00062by2.jpg

And a decent overclock for a Combo motherboard with only 6 Phases:

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9581/1700gw2.jpg (They also do 1600 Mhz 7-7-7-21 with 1.75v, but I didnt screen cap this yet)

Stick em in a Gigabyte or Asus mobo and you should be able to reach 1800+ Mhz.
10-27-2008, 02:23 PM
Razzz

Looks like a nice board. Great work with the memory.
10-27-2008, 03:29 PM
TheKarmakazi

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhavv

In that case I deffinately wont be buying Nehalem.

I'll skip it and wait for the next. The only DDR3 ram you can safely use then is 1333 Mhz, not much improvement from my 1150 to bother upgrading to just for triple channel.

No 1600 - 2000 Mhz DDR3 can be used without damaging the Nehalem CPU :down:

If Intel are telling the truth that is.

That is not the case though. :up:
10-28-2008, 06:29 AM
Mungri

Yes, I am ready for a nehalem upgrade, but I wont get it right away on launch, I'll wait 4-6 months for prices to come down. 1.8v on the ram wont damage the CPU right? Because that is how much my sticks are using. But then if the thrird ram module I buy isnt as good as the two I just got ... :down:
10-28-2008, 01:30 PM
HawaiianSupermn

:shocked::shocked::shocked:
10-28-2008, 02:30 PM
DMH

But 1,7V MCH isn't dangerous for 24/7,from X48 1,7VMCH was alot
10-29-2008, 04:53 AM
2chesapeakes

I was torn between this board and the Asus if I don't see some impressive reviews on the Asus board I know what will be in my shopping cart.
10-29-2008, 07:59 AM
Yellowbeard

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhavv

No 1600 - 2000 Mhz DDR3 can be used without damaging the Nehalem CPU :down:

If Intel are telling the truth that is.

Not so, we'll be doing 1866+ at 1.65v :up:

http://www.corsair.com/_datasheets/TR3X3G1866C9DF.pdf
10-29-2008, 06:38 PM
Mungri

Ewww... Corsair :stick:

How much will it cost? £500?

:down:

Good bare micron D9JNM > All expensive stuff. Even the G. skill 1600 Mhz kit was too expensive for me.

I'll be highly interested if any Ram manufacturer could create some bare modules that can still be protected by warranty if heatspreaders are stuck on.
10-30-2008, 12:43 AM
Cool Vibrations

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhavv

More information on the MSI X58 line up here:

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,8162.html

http://www.nordichardware.com/image3.php?id=5793

X58 Platinum for me please!!!

Wow, quad SLI? That's ridiculous. :eek:

Also, would triple channel DDR work with different ram? Let's say (E.g. Two Corsairs and one Patriot at the same speed DDR1333) I'm guessing vendors will start marketing 3/6GB ram now? (3x1gb or 3x2gb)
10-31-2008, 02:54 PM
Don_Dan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool Vibrations

Also, would triple channel DDR work with different ram? Let's say (E.g. Two Corsairs and one Patriot at the same speed DDR1333) I'm guessing vendors will start marketing 3/6GB ram now? (3x1gb or 3x2gb)

I don't see a problem why it shouldn't work, I have run dual-channel on DDR2 with many different RAM modules, never had issues! :up:

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