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Oh, that one, I kow it, I was hoping they released a new one.
not that I know of...I think I am gonna e-mail epox today and ask about that #4 change that doesn't exist in the bios, and I will ask about the agp/pci bug...
agp/pci problem...
fix...
use the P4C800 ULTRA Version 1.5d version...
There is a nice ClockGen proggy at www.cpuid.com, i like it more than setfsb...
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Hello..
The link too www.abxzone come up whit : cannot find server.
So i wondered if you could tel me a little about the prob.
And if you use SetFSB to set fsb.. will it then starts whit what ever you sets next time win starts?
Seems like mine is running at 72\36... Is this the same that you have prob whit?
Sorry for my bad writing.
Fosco
ABXZone works fine now, but as far as I can tell their are having problems with the P4C800 boards and AGP/PCI lock.
seems like the p4c800 and the 4pca3+/4pda2+ both have some problem where somewhere around 300fsb the agp/pci lock malfunctions, limiting oc'ing. You can get around this buy oc'ing to the highes stable oc before the bug kicks in, and then use clockgen or setfsb.
I am not sure about if it saves your oc'd speeds, because I haven't gotten to use either program yet...but I would imagine it does, otherwise that would be a real hassle.
Using setfsb at the present moment and working.:D
WOOHOO !
This board rocks. I broke all kindsa barriers that I had with my Abit MAX3 (it would not run stable over 270 at 5:4 with all the same parts) :D Check sig
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Also fixed several minor glitches as well.
What BIOS were you using with the MAX3? A lot of the issues are supposed to be fixed in a new BIOS but i'm not sure if its still beta or if its official yet.
Soulburner, is that 19645 3dmark01 the highest you have gotten on 01?
I have heard of several 4pca3's with this problem... I bet that this board has the same issue thay many IC7 (non MAX3's) have.Quote:
Originally posted by gouda96
Mine was amazing for the first 3 days. This morning i went to turn it on, and it powered up for about 1second and then turned off. If i unplug the psu and plug it back in and then press the power the same thing always happens. I had done no mods, and was giving low volts, and it was cooled very well (65f ambient with big fans).
I wonder if this mobo has some problem that causes it to die very easily. I am gonna rma this board to censuspc.com, which i hear is very easy to do.
They OC so well that the strain of the added voltage can burn out the MOSFETS . Thats why ABIT put the OTIS on there (the fan may not do a damn thing but the heatsinks on the MOSFETS are there because of a high failure rate attrubuted to OC'ing and high voltage).
Anyhow, with all this in mind I got out my jig saw and (sloppily) cut up some heatsinks for my MOSFETS and installed them. I can tell you one thing for sure... these heatsinks are hot as hell, so cooling them can only have been a good thing !!!
Check it .
Yeah since I only have 2.85v to give this RAM I can't go over 276 on the FSB :(. Not doing a vdimm mod on this one though.Quote:
Originally posted by gouda96
Soulburner, is that 19645 3dmark01 the highest you have gotten on 01?
Also its all on quiet air cooling ATM which isn't bad really. The card runs at about 83c during testing so I know with some better cooling it would clock a lot better :D. It will run stable and artifact free over 500mhz on the core even at that temperature, but 490 is faster for some reason so thats the sweet spot I run it at. Same with the mem @ 900.
I have some new plans in the works so that score is only going upwards. BTW i'm selling this card if anyone wants to play with it PM me, its a ViVo w/TV Tuner hardware as well and should have a lot of potential seeing what its done on the crappy air cooling it has.
going to have to put on some heatsinks on the moffetts;)
retro, I didn't even think to check the mosfet temps, but it would have died while in use, and not sitting overnight in a cold room. I was also only at the highest @ 295 fsb with 1.6v real...not very high, but maybe the high vdim is an issue. On all the ic7's I have dealt with, the mosfets never got hot...abit just wanted something they could hype to sell more mobos.
Soulburner...@283fsb with the stock cooler, and an non oc'd 9800p 128mb I got something like 199xx...maybe you should ditch that nvidia card and pick up a quality ati card :D
One step ahead of you, read my post again....:toast:
don't know how I missed that...did what realy annoys me when other people do, only read 1/2 the post.:toast:
I tried all the latest Beta BIOSswith my MaxIII and all it seemed to do was castrate the memory performance on the board, even though it got rid of the 255, 1:1 limit barrier. 5:4 never worked right. I got an RMA from Newegg but they gave me an exchange rather than refund.Quote:
What BIOS were you using with the MAX3? A lot of the issues are supposed to be fixed in a new BIOS but i'm not sure if its still beta or if its official yet.
I use an infrared thermometer and I too, do not notice a problem with any of the mosfets on the 4PCA3+/4PEA+. One thing I like about the Alpha 8942 is I can hotglue 4k 50-60 mm fans on the aluminum shroud, which I have blowing on the mosfets. I've not had any problems with my 4PEA+ or 4PCA3+ dying. I got heatsinks but don't even use them. I feel if they overhang the mosfet, they block cooling to the solder connections and PCB.Quote:
They OC so well that the strain of the added voltage can burn out the MOSFETS .
Well Abit, you got one more chance. :D
Getting a cpu by this weekend. Will do some testing.
Newegg has 4pca3+'s in stock now. You could rma your max3 for that or a p4c800, and you would be alot happier with either one...I garuntee it ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Clevor
I tried all the latest Beta BIOSswith my MaxIII and all it seemed to do was castrate the memory performance on the board, even though it got rid of the 255, 1:1 limit barrier. 5:4 never worked right. I got an RMA from Newegg but they gave me an exchange rather than refund.
I use an infrared thermometer and I too, do not notice a problem with any of the mosfets on the 4PCA3+/4PEA+. One thing I like about the Alpha 8942 is I can hotglue 4k 50-60 mm fans on the aluminum shroud, which I have blowing on the mosfets. I've not had any problems with my 4PEA+ or 4PCA3+ dying. I got heatsinks but don't even use them. I feel if they overhang the mosfet, they block cooling to the solder connections and PCB.
Well Abit, you got one more chance. :D
Gouda, I already have a P4C800-E. You may have missed that from some of my posts. It did overclock my L310xxx Malay 2.40C the highest, but unbuffered memory scores trailed the 4PCA3+ a bit. Buffered was higher though.
It runs BH-5 very well considering the 2.85 VDIMM limit: DDR440, 2-2-2-5 and DDR459, 2-3-2-5. But you'd need a (simple) VDIMM mod to get higher, and it will be nowhere as easily adjustable as with the 4PCA3+. The rap on the P4C800-E is you pay for what you get; it is hardly a cheap board. Prices haven't dropped on it either. You figure $230 for that board compared to $150 for the 4PCA3+? I don't think the extra bucks is worth it for 5 mhz more top end but lesser memory performance and easy VDIMM to 3.32.
I will give the IC7-MaxIII another shot. They say some boards are good and some not. I know Newegg got a new batch of boards in. It's possible it's a component problem with the board.
Why would you get the max3? It is simply the worst mobo out. If you have a 2.4c and want to use 5:4 you won't be able to oc at all because of some rediculous 5:4 bug. It is by far the most buggy board made. save your money.Quote:
Originally posted by Clevor
Gouda, I already have a P4C800-E. You may have missed that from some of my posts. It did overclock my L310xxx Malay 2.40C the highest, but unbuffered memory scores trailed the 4PCA3+ a bit. Buffered was higher though.
It runs BH-5 very well considering the 2.85 VDIMM limit: DDR440, 2-2-2-5 and DDR459, 2-3-2-5. But you'd need a (simple) VDIMM mod to get higher, and it will be nowhere as easily adjustable as with the 4PCA3+. The rap on the P4C800-E is you pay for what you get; it is hardly a cheap board. Prices haven't dropped on it either. You figure $230 for that board compared to $150 for the 4PCA3+? I don't think the extra bucks is worth it for 5 mhz more top end but lesser memory performance and easy VDIMM to 3.32.
I will give the IC7-MaxIII another shot. They say some boards are good and some not. I know Newegg got a new batch of boards in. It's possible it's a component problem with the board.
I'm looking for something that might beat the P4C800-E overclock. And I'm a fan of Abit. But they seemed to have dropped the ball on their SD/CW setups.
I am running my 4PCA3+ now. Flashed to the latest BIOS and don't see all that much diff, except they removed VCORE above 1.6 since it never worked anyway. There is no aggressive mode setting in the BIOS; that probably appies to the SD board.
One tip: you may have to jack the VAGP as high as 2.0. I can overclock 2 mhz higher now, so I'm at 279. 3D lockups at extreme overclocks are probably due to the AGP slot not getting enough volts, especially running high VDIMM.
Maybe it's the new BIOS, but my junk Corsair stick paired with a decent one now does 248, 1:1, 2-2-2-5 at 3.2 volts. Passed both 3DMarks and a 16M SuperPI run too. 2 mhz increase.
At just 277 (3.32 gig), 5:4, DDR443, 2-2-2-5 the rig is wickedly fast. Reminds me of the IC7-MaxIII with pre-beta BIOSs and AUTO settings for the ram: getting 3300+ unbuffered:
3DMark2001=20,176
3DMark2003=6,508
PCMark2002=11,272
UT2003 Demo=85.3/52.4 at 1600x1200/4xFSAA/16xAniso
40 sec SuperPI 1M run.
My 9800 Pro is only running 428/355 too. The board breezed through CodeCreatures also, at 1600x1200. Some of the SD/CW boards have trouble clearing this at max overclocks.
I really need a better CPU :p: .
I don't know if these boards can beat the p4c800 in oc's, but they are soo close that it realy doesn't make a difference...but it very well might to you.
My mobo got here today!!! I totally wasn't expecting it this soon...I am so damn happy...and guess what arrived right after I left for class? My prommy!!! All that is left is for my 2.6c kickass cpu to get here :banana: :banana:
Have fun gouda. Hope it works out.:D