For those saying that there aren't two models out there definitely are.
Black PCB: http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=3827
The brown PCB is showed above. :D
Why?
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For those saying that there aren't two models out there definitely are.
Black PCB: http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=3827
The brown PCB is showed above. :D
Why?
Don't make fun of my poopy colored motherboard... :D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mattskees
I've just ordered this board and just wanted to know if there are any waterblocks that fit the nb/sb and mosfets.
Also wanted to know if watercooling the chipset is even worth it.
Like if the PWM's and NB temps get really hot like on the DFI's.
I doubt that you need to watercool anything than the cpu.
FYI. I can touch the PWM heat sink. It feels like 50-60 degree C.
Running CPU at 1.52V at the moment.
a small fan over chipset and mosfets would work fine
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/7...0646tn6.th.jpghttp://img361.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif
Taadaam! Here you can see "ASUS's 8+2 Power Design". 10 phases? I don't think so ;). In my opinion looks like 5 phases with two chokes on phase.
Well I see 2 ranks of 10 mosfets = 20
20 / 2 = 10 = 8 + 2
Is that wrong...???
You can also see these 20 vrms in 5 groups. 4 vrms + 2 chokes on each group.
2 per choke = 10 i.e. 8 + 2 thats how I see it anyway...
I can see the grouping that you refer to, but that doesn't mean that they are grouped like that as part of a pattern that demonstrates their application, the circuit path taken on the PCB is what will determine the routing and therefore the applcaiotn of the modules, they could be grouped like that purely for space reasons, or for placing of heatsinks etc...
Maybe somone else can chip in with their thoughts as well...
But for now my thinking is that it is in fact 8 + 2 phase...
But if I'd like to get more clarification
I'm gonna do that for sure. Especially the PWM section, its pretty hot, and it gets really hot in my room from all these incremental heaters that I have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaivan
I'm gonna use the Koolance universal with the plates. Looks like their 107mm will fit perfectly. I'll probably do the NB also, but use an enzotech copper heatsink for the SB, as it doesn't get that hot. For the NB, I had some danger den and zalman water blocks sitting around not getting used. The NB and SB are standard 52mm mounting, so just about everything will fit it. The FETs use a "standard" Asus config, but I'm not sure if any of the Asus specific blocks from EK, etc., will fit as the board is too new. The koolance is a much better approach anyway. I hate buying water blocks that only fit one thing. Way too expensive for those of us who upgrade every few months!!! :)
A TON of heat comes from the PWM section, which is just like the DFI. Also the same thing with the 4850s that I have in tri Crossfire. I'm actually thinking of switching to 4870s because they don't seem to produce as much heat in the power section judging by the look of the coolers, which don't have a sink on the FETs like the 4850s do.
Also gonna get a Zalman 850W PS to cool down and *quiet* down my rig. Using a Thermaltake toughpower 750 now and when it spins up to around 400 watts, I feel like I'm sitting on the wing of an ATR-72 turboprop.
Heat and noise,..... heat and noise. my enemies :D
I have never seen 4 per phase on any of these boards.. how ever it is. it looks to have good clean power..Quote:
Originally Posted by Milans
I'll take some pics when I strip off the stock cooling so we can see whats thereQuote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
The PWM cooler is very cool for me, just barely above body temperature. The NB is pretty hot but not hot enough I would have to pull my hand off of it, I can leave my fingers on it comfortably. SB somewhere in between the two.
WOW thanks a lot you have really done your research.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by nanohead
The problem with most of the newer AMD boards is trying to find a mosfet block and the koolance (not my top choice for WC) one seems to be quiet flexible.
All I need to do now is to find a NB block that accepts BP 1/2"ID 3/4"OD compression fittings.
I just bought this board from the egg and the PCB is black but the traces are brown. It will stay in the box until the 125 watt 9950 hits. Hopefully by the time I make it home, really, really, soon! :)
Can you use any pci-e slot for x16 or for crossfire any 2 slots that are the same color with this board
My :banana::banana::banana::banana: brown board is sitting in the box until the 125w 9950's come out as well. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by [XC] M411b
It so not fair ..... all you guys with the mobos sitting in the box waiting, and I'm still stuck waiting for them to become available here in the UK.....!!!
I'm itching to get one to try, been waiting for what seems like forever for this mobo.....
I'd like to get a 125W 9950 as well, but same thing with that availability is dire here are the moment....
Still nothing in the UK for at least another week, maybe 2....
The following places in the UK are selling this board:
http://www.lambda-tek.com/computing/pcdesigner.htm
http://www.kikatek.com/product_info....source=froogle
http://www.morecomputers.com/extra.a...eferer=Froogle
But I would not buy one, I have already sent the 790GX Asus board back for being faulty, On the Asus Forums there are all ready reports of post problems, ACC not working, raid problems, and the list goes on and on for the M3A79-t feluxe and its only just come out. Asus = poor build.
The blues are dedicated x16, the blacks run at x8 max. The blues throttle to x8 when you have 3 or more cards installed in order of installation (in other words, slot 1 goes to x8 when a card is installed in slot 2, its partner, but slot 3 stays at x16) I run 3 4850s in tri crossfire, and thats how the board sets itself up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glow9
But it doesn't matter as far as we can all tell. x8 @ PCIe 2.0 has GOBs of bandwidth, so no issues. It seems that with the exception of the monster 4870X2, X8 or x16 simply doesn't matter.
For once, I'm gonna be an optimist on this stuff actually working :D:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by nuts24
Not sure if there's much of a problem with the actual board. I was a victim of the first M3A32-MVP and it simply sucked big time.... I was traumatized on Asus, so when the M3A79 came out, I was VERY reluctant, but I figured I'd try it anyway. All I can say is...WOW... very solid
I've seen many of the things people are complaining about, and there are some legitimate things there (due to the first BIOS version I'm sure), but many of the complaints are folks who are either impatient or simply not experienced enough with the AMD Phenom way of doing things (not like us diehard lunatics at least)
The firmware definitely feels solid, but there are some improvements that can be made. ACC is definitely working (I can get 3.6Ghz on a 9850 that would only do 2.9 before) and I'm have NO random crashing. Also, RAID issues that people are complaining about has NOTHING to do with Asus implementation, but rather it is an AMD chipset/Promise technology problem with how the firmware is configured (it was the same on the SB700). Any SB700/SB750 board has the same issues, (trust me on that, I have 4 SB700s running in the house, all running RAID/SATA, and its ugly to get it going)
Other than that, I must say I am amazed at how tight the board feels. Its my first "high end" Asus since the original A8V that hasn't pissed me off ;)
As usual, whats on internet forums is not always the truth :ROTF:
That's a pretty awesome overclock a 9850. I wonder how much you could push out of a 9950 or even a 125w 9950 when they come out.Quote:
Originally Posted by nanohead
What kind of cooling are you running, and what is the cpu voltage?
I apologize in advance if your cooling setup air or water is in your sig as it's early in the morning, I haven't slept and I'm too lazy to check. :D
Also :banana::banana::banana::banana: brown or jetblack? It HAS to be jetblack because brown obviously can't make for good overclocks, it's just not cool enough~
Thanks for the links, I've been watching all 3 of those sites (as well as one or 2 others), waiting for availability, they all have it listed, but not one of them has had stock available since they first listed them....Quote:
Originally Posted by nuts24
I've been checking on a daily basis since they first listed the mobo, and on the ones that have it, I filled in the "e-mail me when available" option as well..
Some of them have availability dates as well, but since the mobo's were first listed the dates have changed all the time, first of all it was 4th Sep, then 23 Sep, the latest is 29th Sep, though who knows if it'll change again....!!!
Thanks for replying though...LOL, I was just having a jokey moan, about the guys who have the mobos sitting in a box....:D:D
Nothing to date....
Yeah... It is a pretty good overclock. It runs great until I try to save a screenshot with the snipping tool so I can post it here. I'm working on the problem. Voltage is 1.45-1.5, but AOD ends at 1.45 so I'm trying to work on measurement via BIOS, CPUz or Everest, and still keep AOD functioning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattskees
I have a 9950 in my existing together gamer, but I'm in the process of dismantling it and will move that CPU over to the M3A79.
Cooling is on water for the moment with the 9850, but only a 1/4" (6mm) system. My main system is a 1/2" system with manifolds, so that should reduce temps substantially, when I transplant it.
I have the poopy brown color, but I don't care actually. I want SPEED, aesthetics means nothing to me because I'm shallow and crass :ROTF:
This is the best one where the snipping tool cooperates!
AMD chipset drivers cause my system to hang during shutdown... Event viewer is clean with no error message. Any help would be greatly appreciated.