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06-14-2008, 08:17 AM
pest

@W1zzard

the Crysis-Scores are way to high, with what timedemo did you bench?
At 1600x1200@High 4xAA (inGame) 16xAF (Driver) i get roughly 17fps with a
8800GT 700/1000, E8400@3.6GHz, WinXP, gpu_bench
06-14-2008, 08:18 AM
Luka_Aveiro

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_M

Huh? So a regular member wouldn't get the same treatment? :down:

It's just like that everywhere, you shouldn't be surprised at all.

Minding I have great respect for w1zzard and consider him a role-model, I'm sad this had to happen to TPU, they are great and I honestly hope nothing bad happens to them due to this.

Anyway, relatively to Crysis, I think RPGWiZaRD suggestion is one of the bests, since if you have a benchmark tool available to everyone, it will be much easier to compare results :)

Best regards everyone, and w1zzard, if you really gonna end up your life making graphic cards, info leaks are not going to be a problem :yepp: *j/k*
06-14-2008, 08:20 AM
W1zzard

confirmed .. all crysis results are at 1280x1024. for some reason the loading screen loads in the right resolution and then crysis switches back to 1280x1024 for the benchmark :(((
06-14-2008, 08:25 AM
pest

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

confirmed .. all crysis results are at 1280x1024. for some reason the loading screen loads in the right resolution and then crysis switches back to 1280x1024 for the benchmark :(((

Use Crysis-Benchmark Tool 1.05 :)
06-14-2008, 08:26 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_M

:yepp: great

Huh? So a regular member wouldn't get the same treatment? :down:

If you came to me with the same scenario that W1zzard did this am I'd have done the same thing for you.
Maybe I worded my prior statement not quite correctly but you can ask around this forum and anytime someone PM's me for help I do all that I can to help them.
06-14-2008, 08:28 AM
Errik89

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

do you see anything wrong with the settings? we are using the benchmark_gpu timedemo with multiple runs because the first run is really low because of hdd accesses.

if you say the scores "are too high" - they are consistently high through all our cards, right? so the relative positioning is correct?

crysis does not support AF at all? then our graph titles are wrong

yes, they are too high for all vga that you have tested, so, probably, the relative position anyway is correct. ;)

What driver you have used for benchmark? (if u can tell this...) :)
06-14-2008, 08:29 AM
pest

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

crysis does not support AF at all? then our graph titles are wrong

you can always force AF through driver, but it on ly works in Crysis if you don't use POM
06-14-2008, 08:36 AM
W1zzard

Quote:

Originally Posted by pest

you can always force AF through driver, but it on ly works in Crysis if you don't use POM

r_TexMaxAnisotropy doesnt work in crysis?
06-14-2008, 08:39 AM
pest

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

r_TexMaxAnisotropy doesnt work in crysis?

as far as r_UsePom=0 it should work.
06-14-2008, 08:40 AM
Luka_Aveiro

Quote:

Originally Posted by pest

you can always force AF through driver, but it on ly works in Crysis if you don't use POM

Are you 100% sure about this?

I believe Crysis has AF even while using POM...
06-14-2008, 08:52 AM
W1zzard

:cry:

Code:

cfg.Add(_T("r_Width = ")+api->GetParameter(_T("ResolutionX"))); cfg.Add(_T("r_Height = ")+api->GetParameter(_T("ResolutionY")));

I had Width and Height swapped ...
06-14-2008, 08:54 AM
pest

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luka_Aveiro

Are you 100% sure about this?

I believe Crysis has AF even while using POM...

99.9% sure ;)

on my test-setup setting "r_Texture_Anisotropic_Level = 16"
and "r_TexMaxAnisotropy = 16" doesn't change the framerates.
Have to force it through the driver

Better leave it off at all, for the Benches
06-14-2008, 08:57 AM
W1zzard

Quote:

Originally Posted by pest

99.9% sure ;)

on my test-setup setting "r_Texture_Anisotropic_Level = 16"
and "r_TexMaxAnisotropy = 16" doesn't change the framerates.
Have to force it through the driver

Better leave it off at all, for the Benches

but i doubt crysis uses bi/trilinear filtering instead? so 0x AF seems to be incorrect?
06-14-2008, 09:00 AM
W1zzard

===== Crysis =====
Average: 20.9 FPS
Minimum: 14.6 FPS
Maximum: 23.3 FPS

woot new results for 3870x2 1600x1200, 4x AA. looks correct now?
06-14-2008, 09:35 AM
Luka_Aveiro

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

but i doubt crysis uses bi/trilinear filtering instead? so 0x AF seems to be incorrect?

I may be confused about what I'm going to say, but I quite believe in that matter that AF is really =0, because POM is the technique to make 2D textures look like 3D, so no texture filtering needed. As for the long distance views (mountains, rocks vegetation etc), the command "e_view_dist_materials=2048" improves the distant object details, so it makes quite sense the absence of AF.

Did this make any sense or am I wrong about something?
06-14-2008, 10:00 AM
perkam

Good to know we sorted through that :up:

Looking forward to corrected review :D

Perkam
06-14-2008, 10:03 AM
audiofreak

@W1zzard:
I am not sure if somebody already asked but could you explain how 9600 GT could possibly have 19.6 FPS in Crysis in 2048x1536 with 4xAA and 16xAF?
06-14-2008, 10:05 AM
w0mbat

He explained, just read the tread.
06-14-2008, 10:08 AM
W1zzard

i'm rebenching all cards now with the correct crysis settings and will post the numbers here when done for public scrutiny :)
06-14-2008, 10:08 AM
dinos22

oh :banana::banana::banana::banana:
good to see you getting to the bottom of it
06-14-2008, 10:17 AM
w0mbat

Do u use a newer driver?
06-14-2008, 10:18 AM
audiofreak

Aha ok. So if he actually tested in 1280x1024 instead of 2048x1536 the scores for GTX 280 Amp would be:

2048x1536 4xAA = 20.71 FPS
1290x1080 4xAA = 28.27 FPS

That is if the original 49.7 FPS was indeed with 4xAA.
06-14-2008, 10:19 AM
Errik89

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

i'm rebenching all cards now with the correct crysis settings and will post the numbers here when done for public scrutiny :)

very good! :up:
06-14-2008, 10:42 AM
s1nykuL

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

i'm rebenching all cards now with the correct crysis settings and will post the numbers here when done for public scrutiny :)

That would be great W1zzard, but please don't get yourself in any more grief with Nvidia.

We can all wait, this isn't life or death or anything like it.
06-14-2008, 11:24 AM
W1zzard

Quote:

Originally Posted by s1nykuL

this isn't life or death or anything like it.

you should have seen the original thread that got deleted. new numbers wont include nvidia's future products of course :)

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