Final Specs for ATI HD 4870 and HD 4850 Leaked

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05-21-2008, 02:56 AM
adamsleath

looking forward to these.
one of these 48xx and maybe a new gtx thingy for my 2nd peecee. sometime soon mehopes.
05-21-2008, 03:03 AM
Sparky

Will one of these cards then be what I finally upgrade to from my x1950xt? That x1950xt has just held out too well for me to really bother spending the money so far :p:
05-21-2008, 03:14 AM
mascaras

these specs are the same posted here ??? >> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=818

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Originally Posted by w0mbat

The specifications just look very, very wrong.

regards
05-21-2008, 03:29 AM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by mascaras

these specs are the same posted here ??? >> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=818

regards

so repeating a lie makes it right? :ROTF:

OK so now i say the sky is green, and i post this in different forums, and some newssites and then it must be true.
05-21-2008, 03:35 AM
adamsleath

maybe there wont be any 48XX cards :D; but if there are then the specs are whatever they end up being.
05-21-2008, 04:05 AM
saaya

lower gpu speeds than i thought...
4ghz gddr5.... wow...
05-21-2008, 04:36 AM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

lower gpu speeds than i thought...
4ghz gddr5.... wow...

qimonda also has 4,5ghz gddr5 in the pipeline. ;)
05-21-2008, 04:39 AM
biohead

here we go again, sigh.
05-21-2008, 04:53 AM
RPGWiZaRD

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

As for the price, I'm predicting:

HD 4870 X2 ?? ?? ??
HD 4870 1GB GDDR5 $349
HD 4870 512 GDDR3 $300
HD 4850 512 GDDR3 $250
HD 4850 256 GDDR3 $225

Perkam

Yea I also predict prices to end up like that. Which I think would give ATI at least a few months - half year nice sales numbers in performance section until performance segment is filled out with GT200 chips as I bet these 4xxx cards will perform a bit better than G92/G92b while NVIDIA will probably dominate the highend section with GTX 260 and 280 which I think will end up as $450 and $550 pricetag and I bet ATI will get more profit per card than NVIDIA if prices would be around those levels.
05-21-2008, 06:25 AM
[XC] hipno650

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Originally Posted by AliG

No the lack of texture power was the biggest blow imo, this time around it'll have more than enough shader power for aa and hopefully enough TMUs (I personally would have liked to see the 64 g92 has, but that's just me), but only time will tell.

at least they got a bump. but not bumping the rops?? another problem with this many shadders is games are not coded to use them well. so yes 3dmark will fly but real games will see less of an increase until games code for the mass of shadders. and yes i do agree that the Number of TMU's will be a problem but at least they got doubled but they are still far behind nividia's count.
05-21-2008, 06:57 AM
Dave_Sz

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

Check the NH article, this was supposed to be under NDA but leaked by Hardware Infos.

The only thing not certain are the final clocks, everything else is as it is in the document.

Perkam

that doesn't mean anything. I can tell you that i've been under an NDA and show u some fancy pictures too...
05-21-2008, 07:05 AM
Calmatory

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Originally Posted by Dave_Sz

that doesn't mean anything. I can tell you that i've been under an NDA and show u some fancy pictures too...

Then what MEANS something really? Let me answer for you: nothing. Am I correct?
05-21-2008, 07:17 AM
perkam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave_Sz

that doesn't mean anything. I can tell you that i've been under an NDA and show u some fancy pictures too...

Credibility.

That is what makes the difference. It is the reason a newbie posting a 6Ghz Intel quad core pic would be shunned for being a photoshopper, but when hipro puts one on XS, you KNOW its real, because, as an extreme legend, you can trust what he posts.

I do not know about hardware infos, but NH is a credible site, but that is not ruling the possiblity that it could be a plant by AMD, since Kinc from NH hasn't (or can't) post in this thread to confirm.

We'll just have to wait and see, but a document as original as that is hard to call a fake seeing as both websites are staking their credibility on the line to confirm the specs, which means SOMETHING, not nothing.

Perkam
05-21-2008, 07:19 AM
w0mbat

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7769.html

http://www.nordichardware.com/image3.php?id=5063
http://www.nordichardware.com/image3.php?id=5062
05-21-2008, 07:38 AM
perkam

Quote:

Originally Posted by w0mbat

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7769.html

http://www.nordichardware.com/image3.php?id=5063
http://www.nordichardware.com/image3.php?id=5062

Ok that's it, now I KNOW Marcus (kinc) has them :rofl::rofl::rofl: :ROTF::ROTF::ROTF::ROTF: :clap::clap::clap:

Another note, 480SPs on single slot cooler for 4850 FTW :up:

Perkam
05-21-2008, 07:41 AM
iadstudio

maybe this will finally be worthy of a crosfire-x setup (4870x2 + 4870)

I'm just hope having a x-fire board pays off eventually.
05-21-2008, 07:48 AM
w0mbat

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

Ok that's it, now I KNOW Marcus (kinc) has them :rofl::rofl::rofl: :ROTF::ROTF::ROTF::ROTF: :clap::clap::clap:

Another note, 480SPs on single slot cooler for 4850 FTW :up:

Perkam

AFAIK they dont have them right now but will get them soon.
05-21-2008, 07:49 AM
NH|Delph1

Quote:

Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler

So one website says a confidential source has told them yadda yadda yadda, another website(Fudzilla) has mentioned final clocks, so NH divulges information they were told not to share? I should take this as fact because? :rolleyes: If these are true then great but anyone can fake a document :down:

Actually, when Fuad posted the RV770Pro clocks, I got permission from the source to post the rest.

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Originally Posted by w0mbat

AFAIK they dont have them right now but will get them soon.

Indeed ;)

//Andreas
05-21-2008, 07:53 AM
RPGWiZaRD

When was the launch date again? I can't wait for the cards...errr I mean WR scores to be posted. :p:
05-21-2008, 08:47 AM
w0mbat

Either 16th or 18th june.
05-21-2008, 08:59 AM
AliG

Quote:

Originally Posted by 003

If that's why their holding back then they are idiots!! Maybe they like being raped by nvidia though.

I agree, they should have made the rv770xt have something like 32 ROPs and the rv770pro have half of them disabled, that would allow them to bring both a nice power envalope and also it would further seperate the 4870 and 4850, which I personally think needs to be done for them to sell more of both cards.
05-21-2008, 09:03 AM
GoThr3k

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliG

I agree, they should have made the rv770xt have something like 32 ROPs and the rv770pro have half of them disabled, that would allow them to bring both a nice power envalope and also it would further seperate the 4870 and 4850, which I personally think needs to be done for them to sell more of both cards.

why not somethink like a 4830 with the disabled functionallity you describe?
4870 RV770 gpu, high clocks
4850 RV770 gpu, medium clocks
4830 RV770gpu, low clocks and some tiny bits disabled (like for exemple 16 rops)

i think this would able them to get higher yields, get an enthusast part, get an high end card and a high midrange card
05-21-2008, 09:05 AM
TheKarmakazi

If the 4ghz ddr5 w/ 256mbit bus = ddr3 with 512mb bus, why pay more for the ddr5? Am I missing something?
05-21-2008, 09:08 AM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheKarmakazi

If the 4ghz ddr5 w/ 256mbit bus = ddr3 with 512mb bus, why pay more for the ddr5? Am I missing something?

cause

gddr5 with 256bit -> cheaper pcb, cheaper chip, more expensive ram

gddr3 with 512bit -> expensive pcb, expensive chip, cheap ram.
05-21-2008, 09:14 AM
eleeter

DDR5 also has some sort of timing compensation built in (someone clarify this) so you don't have to worry so much about trace lengths.

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