E8500 at Mini-Cascade - EVGA 790i & 9800GX2 Stock : 110K on my fav game :-)

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04-07-2008, 04:50 PM
Pedro Rocha

Quote:

Originally Posted by FUGGER

Good stuff Pedro, now I gotta hunt you down with my E8400 now that I got CH fixed.

Thanks Charles!!

I dont have any doubt you can beat my 110K with your E8400 on cascade and the Stock 9800GX2, you got more than talent for that :)

Just be prepared to take some time on optimization the 790i and tweaking the drivers, but then again that's the beauty of my fav game ..it's not just brute CPU and GPU power... :D
04-07-2008, 05:14 PM
tiborrr

@dinos22: CH can be fixed to be working if ran in proper test order.
04-07-2008, 05:17 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiborrr

@dinos22: CH can be fixed to be working if ran in proper test order.

i see
what order is that if you don't mind me asking

when you guys say fixed
what FPS are we talking about
or are you still having trouble beating 8800GT/GTS GFX cards lol
04-07-2008, 06:07 PM
manyga

OCZ 2x1 GB DDR3-1600 7-7-7-20, working well in eVga 790i¿?
which memory you recommend with good value ?
I not found memories List supported for this mobo.....Someone knows?

Thankss bros!
04-08-2008, 02:33 PM
Ming@s

Pedro which is the cascade with the rotary engine?
04-12-2008, 09:05 AM
Pedro Rocha

Another weekend, another run on my favorite game - dont have time to bench during the week :(

This time I naked my EVGA 9800GX2 and now can run Nature at 775-1950-1145 :)

No Mipmap cheat of course, just Lod tweak:)

Still on the MiniCascade ..

Here is the photo :

http://pedrorocha.planetaclix.pt/Foto9800GX2_Naked.jpg

And here is the result :

http://pedrorocha.planetaclix.pt/110...00GX2Naked.JPG

And the Compare link: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9362978

Sorry NightRaven my friend, with stock card I beat your all LN2 GX2 score http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=184044 I have no doubt you can do better..

I think this, by far, the best stock video card 2001 score but I dont stop to play my favorite game - next target 111K :yepp:

Because this is
http://pedrorocha.planetaclix.pt/BestGameEver.jpg

:rofl:
04-12-2008, 09:37 AM
techno_17

Amazing Run, Pedro,

Congratulations!

btw: nice cpu voltage:D

Regards,
04-12-2008, 02:32 PM
dinos22

heheh taking a dig at NR
certainly very nice efficiency but he will easily beat you once he gets his order and lod right

he had very little LN2 for the amount of benchmarks he had to do hehehe

you are certainly a great tweaker no doubt about it..this is crazy good efficiency

:up:
04-12-2008, 02:46 PM
Pedro Rocha

Quote:

Originally Posted by techno_17

Amazing Run, Pedro,

Congratulations!

btw: nice cpu voltage:D

Regards,

Thanks :D

The vcore is not real, I measured 1.96v idle and the board sure drops a bit the vcore in load :shakes:

Maybe with vdrop mod I can get 5.510Mhz (580FSB) benchable.. when I have some time need to buy a VR for that ..

Anyway the mini-cascade is ideal for this dual core E8500, coold boot probs start to apear at around -105ºC :rolleyes:

For those who ask (again) in PM's here is the runnig order: LH -> LL -> CH -> DL -> DH -> CL -> Nature..

Used Lod 4.9 and have to drop the OC on the card a bit in Nature, it is full stock EVGA 9800GX2, no mods at all, so 775-1145 is not to bad for a full retail card :D
04-12-2008, 02:54 PM
dinos22

don't you think you will improve more if you use lower LOD for all other tests than Nature :confused:

just asking as i see others including KP using smaller values for other tests (think he mentioned it somewhere on forum)
04-13-2008, 10:41 AM
Pedro Rocha

I manged to boot to Windows with booth P1 and P2 enable at 577Mhz FSB and here is the result in terms of memory bandwith :

http://pedrorocha.planetaclix.pt/E85...EverestMem.JPG

:shocked:

Unfortunately 3DMark does not run at 577 P1 & P2 enable ..run fine with P2 enable...

The max of 3D benchable with P1 & P2 memory setting Enable seems to be 565Mhz in the cascade ... the loose on CPU is not compensate by the adedd memory bandwith :rolleyes:

Today, with P2 Enable and 578Mhz FSB I managed to get 111K with 9800GX2 stock ..so in another run a bit better than 111K seems possible ..

:yepp:
04-13-2008, 10:59 AM
runmc

Where can we find the 173.67 driver? :)
04-13-2008, 11:05 AM
Pedro Rocha

Quote:

Originally Posted by runmc

Where can we find the 173.67 driver? :)

Here my friend : http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/nvidia...ries/17367.exe

Download it, install it and go play :

http://pedrorocha.planetaclix.pt/BestGameEver.jpg

:rofl:
04-13-2008, 11:09 AM
BenchZowner

Quote:

Originally Posted by runmc

Where can we find the 173.67 driver? :)

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...173_67)Int.zip

Edit: Beaten by the 3D Mark2001 Sportsman :D
04-13-2008, 11:15 AM
runmc

Thank you very much guys. One more thing and I'll leave you alone (maybe)

I run CH and LH at default card clocks. Do you run CH, LL, LH at default card clocks or do you overclock the card on these any of these test?
04-13-2008, 11:19 AM
Pedro Rocha

Quote:

Originally Posted by runmc

Thank you very much guys. One more thing and I'll leave you alone (maybe)

I run CH and LH at default card clocks. Do you run CH, LL, LH at default card clocks or do you overclock the card on these any of these test?

Better put some VideoCard OC on all tests, CH specially gain a bit with vid card speed :yepp:
04-13-2008, 11:50 AM
BenchZowner

Yup, all tests overclocked.
And when benching "seriously", each test at it's own limits ( Nature for example usually crashes at frequencies where the other tests pass ).
04-13-2008, 12:59 PM
PPInDaHouse

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchZowner

Yup, all tests overclocked.
And when benching "seriously", each test at it's own limits ( Nature for example usually crashes at frequencies where the other tests pass ).

thats because of core speed, but nature handles higher clocks on rams, as drago low :)

(correct me if im wrong)
04-18-2008, 05:37 AM
Pedro Rocha

OK, for the very 1st time I used tweak (or cheat????), I didnt even know how to enable it, but Mike gave me the directions ;)

Here is what I get :

http://pedrorocha.planetaclix.pt/112923_GX2m.JPG

I only enable mimap on Nature (other tests seems not gain) and with equal OC on CPU and on 9800GX2 stock the gains are :
- Nature jump from 1442fps to 1566fps
- Total score jump from 110893 to 112923

I discussed this thing with Mike, he argue that after all mipmap is just extreme LOD (LOD at maximum level), but I'm not full conviced yet..

I will NOT submit this score on the ORB..

Maybe if I have strong evidence that - k|ngp|n / pro (i4memory.com) / mickeymouse (benchers that are above me on 2001 orb) used mimap on their SLI 8800GTS runs I will submit it..

But I dont have and I presume they are also Sportsmans, so I will stay way from mipmap ..

:yepp:
04-18-2008, 06:15 AM
M.Beier

Hmm,.... Well... LOD is allowed, why aint mipmap...?
We didnt use mipmap for our run btw.... And 100mhz PCI-E (BUMMER)...
04-18-2008, 06:18 AM
massman

Mipmap discussion here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=178537
04-18-2008, 06:28 AM
dinos22

pro hasn't posted any GX2 runs :confused:
are you comparing different cards here? like GX2 vs 8800GTS :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
04-18-2008, 06:29 AM
M.Beier

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

pro hasn't posted any GX2 runs :confused:
are you comparing different cards here?

used mimap on their SLI 8800GTS runs I will submit it..
04-18-2008, 07:39 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.Beier

used mimap on their SLI 8800GTS runs I will submit it..

i don't think pro's and MM's runs could be considered out of order............KP's clocks are higher but the score is as well.. >> Vince stated in his 790i thread that he has not used mipmap tweak in his runs that massman asked about http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=163
i don't know if he started using it then or not but i'd be surprised considering his strong denial and also the fact it has been stated it is banned on HWBOT

nature scales with core clocks from small amount of experience i have with 8800GT >> roughly 50-60fps per 100MHz core clock jumps

SLI 8800GTS runs
pedro's core clock > 775MHz >> Nature: 1442fps
MM'c core clock > 1050MHz >> Nature: 1530fps
pro's core clock > 1080MHz >> Nature: 1538fps
KP's core clock > 1080MHz >> Nature: 1699fps

KP's GX2 core clock run > 949MHz >> Nature: 1576fps

shader clocks unknown on all those runs :confused:

i think you just need better cooling on that card pedro rather than this cheat to reach those guys :p:
04-18-2008, 08:12 AM
M.Beier

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

i don't think pro's and MM's runs could be considered out of order............KP's clocks are higher but the score is as well.. >> Vince stated in his 790i thread that he has not used mipmap tweak in his runs that massman asked about http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=163
i don't know if he started using it then or not but i'd be surprised considering his strong denial and also the fact it has been stated it is banned on HWBOT

nature scales with core clocks from small amount of experience i have with 8800GT >> roughly 50-60fps per 100MHz core clock jumps

SLI 8800GTS runs
pedro's core clock > 775MHz >> Nature: 1442fps
MM'c core clock > 1050MHz >> Nature: 1530fps
pro's core clock > 1080MHz >> Nature: 1538fps
KP's core clock > 1080MHz >> Nature: 1699fps

KP's GX2 core clock run > 949MHz >> Nature: 1576fps

shader clocks unknown on all those runs :confused:

i think you just need better cooling on that card pedro rather than this cheat to reach those guys :p:

I didnt say that... ;)
I havent even bothered to look at their results... but you said that he hadnt run GX2, Pedro spoke of the 8800GTS runs, just wanted to clear up the confusion ;)

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