X3350 Arrival

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03-25-2008, 07:34 AM
zoob

I caved and ordered two from moogr
http://www.moogr.com/INTEL_CPU_XEON_...id-368325.html
Use the coupon marchmadness
Found the deal here.
03-25-2008, 07:37 AM
RunawayPrisoner

Never mind... you guys ready for this? Here you go, 500MHz at LAST! :up:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=334952

I think that's all I'll do at this point... it's time for good ol' X3350 to take her break. I have been pushing her quite hard the last few days. :p

And by the way, batch #: L803B196

Now I'm even more positive that a X38 or X48 motherboard would be able to go beyond 500MHz, or at least be able to do more at 4.00GHz than my board... probably... hmm... they can even keep this FSB 24/7 stable! Oh yeah, and voltages needed for 4.00GHz:

VCore: 1.500V BIOS, 1.492V CPU-Z
PLL: 1.80V
VDimm: 2.30V (just to be on the safe side)
FSB Term: 1.50V
NB: 1.71V
SB: 1.20V

SuperPI 1M at 4.00GHz is 12.500s.
03-25-2008, 01:27 PM
trans am

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Got it now lets see what she can do.
03-25-2008, 01:30 PM
RunawayPrisoner

Congrats! And let's see some results with a true overclocker's board! :)
03-25-2008, 02:31 PM
Crankybugga

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunawayPrisoner

Never mind... you guys ready for this? Here you go, 500MHz at LAST! :up:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=334952

I think that's all I'll do at this point... it's time for good ol' X3350 to take her break. I have been pushing her quite hard the last few days. :p

And by the way, batch #: L803B196

Now I'm even more positive that a X38 or X48 motherboard would be able to go beyond 500MHz, or at least be able to do more at 4.00GHz than my board... probably... hmm... they can even keep this FSB 24/7 stable! Oh yeah, and voltages needed for 4.00GHz:

VCore: 1.500V BIOS, 1.492V CPU-Z
PLL: 1.80V
VDimm: 2.30V (just to be on the safe side)
FSB Term: 1.50V
NB: 1.71V
SB: 1.20V

SuperPI 1M at 4.00GHz is 12.500s.

What voltage you need for stable 3.6 and 3.8Ghz?
Id would think 1.5v is too high for 24/7 air cooled rig.?
03-25-2008, 02:32 PM
karl_eller

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunawayPrisoner

Never mind... you guys ready for this? Here you go, 500MHz at LAST! :up:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=334952

I think that's all I'll do at this point... it's time for good ol' X3350 to take her break. I have been pushing her quite hard the last few days. :p

And by the way, batch #: L803B196

Now I'm even more positive that a X38 or X48 motherboard would be able to go beyond 500MHz, or at least be able to do more at 4.00GHz than my board... probably... hmm... they can even keep this FSB 24/7 stable! Oh yeah, and voltages needed for 4.00GHz:

VCore: 1.500V BIOS, 1.492V CPU-Z
PLL: 1.80V
VDimm: 2.30V (just to be on the safe side)
FSB Term: 1.50V
NB: 1.71V
SB: 1.20V

SuperPI 1M at 4.00GHz is 12.500s.

I'd watch that vCore if I was you. The 45nm CPUs (at least the Wolfdales, and I doubt Yorkfields are much different) have a habit of dying if given much more than about 1.45v actual for 24/7 use. I personally wouldn't want to be using more than about 1.4v actual with a 24/7 rig.

Eller
03-25-2008, 02:34 PM
Richard Dower

Guys, anymore places selling these CPUs?
03-25-2008, 02:37 PM
RedHOT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Dower

Guys, anymore places selling these CPUs?

onsale.com is where i got mine... showed up today.... too bad my motherboard doesn't show up till tomorrow.
03-25-2008, 02:39 PM
PhilDoc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Dower

Guys, anymore places selling these CPUs?

I gave a link for excaliberpc on the first page. They say they have one left if you hurry.
03-25-2008, 02:53 PM
RunawayPrisoner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crankybugga

What voltage you need for stable 3.6 and 3.8Ghz?
Id would think 1.5v is too high for 24/7 air cooled rig.?

3.6GHz: 1.22V
3.8GHz: 1.32V

Quote:

Originally Posted by karl_eller

I'd watch that vCore if I was you. The 45nm CPUs (at least the Wolfdales, and I doubt Yorkfields are much different) have a habit of dying if given much more than about 1.45v actual for 24/7 use. I personally wouldn't want to be using more than about 1.4v actual with a 24/7 rig.

Thanks for the reminder. Someone said the same thing to me when I bumped my E8400 to 4.65GHz the other day. I'm just posting a validate for 4.00GHz to show that there's really... no such thing as a 480FSB wall for this CPU. Of course it's not a matter of VCore, since I can also boot into Windows at 4.00GHz with 1.35V (just found out). The problem is that the strain on the motherboard at 500FSB is too great for it to maintain stability over long-term use, so 4.00GHz is really unrealistic, and not just for the vCore it requires.

I'm currently running 3.80GHz still, and it's stable enough at 1.32V. There's very little difference between 3.80GHz and 3.60GHz, though. Probably 1.1 seconds in SuperPI 1M and that's it.

P.S.: And this chip is showing weird signs... of voltage requirement. It required 1.344V to prime stable for over 4 hours just yesterday. Now if it's degraded, it should require more, right? Today, it's requiring only 1.320V to prime stable for 7 hours straight. Slapping a Big Typhoon over it cooled it down drastically, too, and now I'm hovering at 20C-55C in normal office works and gaming sessions. Also to note that 475FSB no longer required me to boost the PLL and FSB termination voltages. I can leave them at stock now, and instead, just bump the northbridge voltage to 1.55V and it's rock solid. I have a Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II on my northbridge chip so I'm not afraid of temperature... but... that's just plain weird. Just yesterday, it required 1.64V PLL and 1.40V FSB Term to stay stable at 3.80GHz!
03-25-2008, 03:05 PM
Crankybugga

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunawayPrisoner

3.6GHz: 1.22V
3.8GHz: 1.32V

Thanks for the reminder. Someone said the same thing to me when I bumped my E8400 to 4.65GHz the other day. I'm just posting a validate for 4.00GHz to show that there's really... no such thing as a 480FSB wall for this CPU. Of course it's not a matter of VCore, since I can also boot into Windows at 4.00GHz with 1.35V (just found out). The problem is that the strain on the motherboard at 500FSB is too great for it to maintain stability over long-term use, so 4.00GHz is really unrealistic, and not just for the vCore it requires.

I'm currently running 3.80GHz still, and it's stable enough at 1.32V. There's very little difference between 3.80GHz and 3.60GHz, though. Probably 1.1 seconds in SuperPI 1M and that's it.

P.S.: And this chip is showing weird signs... of voltage requirement. It required 1.344V to prime stable for over 4 hours just yesterday. Now if it's degraded, it should require more, right? Today, it's requiring only 1.320V to prime stable for 7 hours straight. Slapping a Big Typhoon over it cooled it down drastically, too, and now I'm hovering at 20C-55C in normal office works and gaming sessions. Also to note that 475FSB no longer required me to boost the PLL and FSB termination voltages. I can leave them at stock now, and instead, just bump the northbridge voltage to 1.55V and it's rock solid. I have a Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II on my northbridge chip so I'm not afraid of temperature... but... that's just plain weird. Just yesterday, it required 1.64V PLL and 1.40V FSB Term to stay stable at 3.80GHz!

Cheers, decent looking chips :)
03-25-2008, 06:51 PM
RunawayPrisoner

And... 480 FSB wall is busted. :p

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...C/MaxBench.jpg

That's 3.92GHz stable at 1.44v... so if I'm not mistaken, it'd take 1.52v or 1.54v for 4.00GHz stable. vCore for frequencies are as follow:

Stock stable: 1.14v
3.00GHz stable: 1.16v
3.20GHz stable: 1.18v
3.40GHz stable: 1.20v
3.60GHz stable: 1.23v
3.80GHz stable: 1.33v
3.90GHz stable: 1.42v
4.00GHz stable: ???v (never tried)

That's how it is for my chip so far. :)
03-25-2008, 07:30 PM
Nebulus

That's a killer chip you have there. 490 x 8 at 1.44..... when you say stable, you mean prime stable right?
03-25-2008, 07:37 PM
RunawayPrisoner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebulus

That's a killer chip you have there. 490 x 8 at 1.44..... when you say stable, you mean prime stable right?

Yes, I mean Prime stable. The CPU has to be stable so that I can overclock my GPU and achieve that. :)
03-26-2008, 12:18 AM
RunawayPrisoner

Slight bump... and... max 3DMark06 with 9600GT:

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...Mark0696gt.jpg

Seems to be around or above 8800GT scores now. :)
03-26-2008, 12:47 AM
lv_88

That looks great! :)

These ones are so much fun, I got mine today, and started easy with
8x400, all stock and its nicely stable so far, and I'm on the stock cooling (yeah will have to get something else later) But for now I'm quite happy since I'm
upgrading from a X2, and working with mainly 3D I'm more than happy :)
03-26-2008, 06:33 AM
motopen1s

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunawayPrisoner

P.S.: And this chip is showing weird signs... of voltage requirement. It required 1.344V to prime stable for over 4 hours just yesterday. Now if it's degraded, it should require more, right? Today, it's requiring only 1.320V to prime stable for 7 hours straight. Slapping a Big Typhoon over it cooled it down drastically, too, and now I'm hovering at 20C-55C in normal office works and gaming sessions. Also to note that 475FSB no longer required me to boost the PLL and FSB termination voltages. I can leave them at stock now, and instead, just bump the northbridge voltage to 1.55V and it's rock solid. I have a Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II on my northbridge chip so I'm not afraid of temperature... but... that's just plain weird. Just yesterday, it required 1.64V PLL and 1.40V FSB Term to stay stable at 3.80GHz!

lol, sounds like a hard break-in for a motorbike :p: - which does seems to work (tested on 1 bike so far) :yepp:
03-26-2008, 07:12 AM
trans am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunawayPrisoner

Slight bump... and... max 3DMark06 with 9600GT:

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...Mark0696gt.jpg

Seems to be around or above 8800GT scores now. :)

whoa! what board is that?
I played with mine last night at 1.45v in bios. up to 460fsb
I really need x38 or x48 I think it will help with quad fsb.
Don't quads o/c higher on x38 than on p35?
03-26-2008, 07:15 AM
RunawayPrisoner

Motherboard used so far: ASUS P5E-VM HDMI. It's G35, by the way. :) This little guy can really overclock something when pushed to his maximum limits, eh?
03-26-2008, 09:35 AM
cbutters

Man, I took the day off work, Im just sitting here waiting for my X3350 to show up, along with my X48-T2R. COMEON FEDEX Man!
03-26-2008, 09:39 AM
RunawayPrisoner

Ahahahah, I know how it feels like. And I got really frustrated last Friday when the delivery was attempted at... 8AM, and I wasn't even awake then! I had to run down to UPS at 6PM to get the darn package. It's all going well now. I'm currently waiting for more Arctic Silver 5 and a pretty cool aftermarket cooler to come. Hopefully, I can stay longer at 4.00GHz to... maybe do a quick 3DMark06 bench? :)

Edit: Here are the temperatures when the processor is idling at 3.80GHz... and when she's being stressed by Prime95 large FFTs, me playing some Youtube videos, loading these websites, chatting on Yahoo, and MSN, and probably... uploading something via Torrent all at once:

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...am/PC/load.jpg

Idle: 26/26/17/20
Load: 64/61/59/55

All on AIR with a Big Typhoon.
This is just so you know what you can expect from your chip. :) Ambient temp here is current 23C.
03-26-2008, 10:33 AM
trans am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunawayPrisoner

Motherboard used so far: ASUS P5E-VM HDMI. It's G35, by the way. :) This little guy can really overclock something when pushed to his maximum limits, eh?

holy crap G35!!?? doing quad at 490mhz fsb?!!
03-26-2008, 10:45 AM
RunawayPrisoner

Yes. G35 doing quad at 490MHz FSB... STABLE~! :up:
I even posted a validate link for 500MHz FSB, too... too bad it wasn't that stable. :p
03-26-2008, 10:54 AM
Asgard_thor

would a X48 DFI be worth getting over a DK X38?

someone message me there opinion please
03-26-2008, 10:55 AM
Tekdemon

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunawayPrisoner

I'm currently waiting for more Arctic Silver 5 and a pretty cool aftermarket cooler to come.

Why not MX-2? I keep seeing people talk about buying AS5 but it seems like nobody buys MX-2 for some reason.
I saw it at like the same price at a lot of places, lol.
Is it just because AS5 comes in a bigger tube?

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