Took apart my Apogee GTX recently.

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03-03-2008, 12:03 AM
phelan1777

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Originally Posted by Froggy

Can you shoot an improved pic of the inside of your top? It is hard to see if it iscorrosion or mineral type build-up. The "paint" you are referring to is in the middle of the top?

sorry, but the camera won't let me get any close, even with the macro enabled. though you can see my finger prints on my fingers in the on pic.
03-03-2008, 12:21 AM
Froggy

Yeah it looks like your focus point was actually in the back of the pic. Maybe if you place the top vertically on like a kitchen table & use the table as a tripod for the camera. That way the camera see's the top as a flat area & the whole top will be in focus.
03-09-2008, 07:06 PM
turtletrax

Got my used GTX and I think the top is slightly corroded/or is the plating just coming off due to a bad plate job??...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...x/DSC_0066.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...x/DSC_0072.jpg

I scrubbed it with a toothbrush as it was dirty and low and behold I find the above staring at me. I got a great deal so I guess I cant whine, but I was really hoping that it would be less hassle then more.

Oh well. I guess I am holding off and getting another Fuzion or get a spanky new Supreme.
03-09-2008, 09:52 PM
C'DaleRider

Quote:

Originally Posted by turtletrax

Got my used GTX and I think the top is slightly corroded/or is the plating just coming off due to a bad plate job??...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...x/DSC_0066.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...x/DSC_0072.jpg

I scrubbed it with a toothbrush as it was dirty and low and behold I find the above staring at me. I got a great deal so I guess I cant whine, but I was really hoping that it would be less hassle then more.

Oh well. I guess I am holding off and getting another Fuzion or get a spanky new Supreme.

Ummmm............no, that's not corrosion. What YOU'VE got is you're starting to remove the black dye from the top that Swiftech coats the inside with.....go ahead and finish taking it off with a toothbrush. That is NOT bad plating or corrosion, just dye coming off. Swiftech even mentions this can happen on their website.
03-09-2008, 10:17 PM
tiro_uspsss

phelan - how long did u have that loop running?

I have a friend who had a mixed metal loop, had it running for 2yrs, with anti-corrosion stuff (car rad fluid) - he did get corrosion, but it was way way waaaaay les than ur loop; in fact it was so minute that, i personally wont have given a ****.. but each to their own..
03-10-2008, 06:49 AM
turtletrax

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Originally Posted by C'DaleRider

Ummmm............no, that's not corrosion. What YOU'VE got is you're starting to remove the black dye from the top that Swiftech coats the inside with.....go ahead and finish taking it off with a toothbrush. That is NOT bad plating or corrosion, just dye coming off. Swiftech even mentions this can happen on their website.

Ummmmm....... Thanks for the attitude ;)

Edit: Upon more thought, I vote Swiftech puts a few more layers of crap on this thing that can come off. I mean 3 just isn't enough for me.
03-10-2008, 10:39 AM
phelan1777

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Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

phelan - how long did u have that loop running?

I have a friend who had a mixed metal loop, had it running for 2yrs, with anti-corrosion stuff (car rad fluid) - he did get corrosion, but it was way way waaaaay les than ur loop; in fact it was so minute that, i personally wont have given a ****.. but each to their own..

Mine was up for over 10 months, about a year this coming May.
03-10-2008, 10:51 AM
IanY

Guys.. the use of Pentosin or Zerex or whatever... Swiftech only honors its guarantee if you use Swiftech's own Hydrx, or all bets are off. You can go fight Swiftech all you want, I'm just relaying what they say.
03-10-2008, 12:22 PM
eXa

Who is fighting Swiftech? i just stay the hell away from theire GTX...
Use other swiftech stuff tho :) (mcr320, 6002)
03-10-2008, 12:38 PM
IanY

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Originally Posted by mcoffey

Not that this is directed towards you in anyway IanY, but that's just wrong.

Even if I go to their site now and read up on the GTX, I see no mention of that condition to the guarantee.

I just see the following:

The housing is CNC machined out of billet aluminum and receives two plating's for a lifetime protection against corrosion: electroless nickel plating (MIL-C-26074E grade B) and Zinc Cobalt plating (ASTM B 840-99 grade 6). A black die is applied after plating strictly for cosmetic appeal.
The port threads are 1/4" BSPP standard.
The housing is supported by a 5 year limited (*) warranty

The * refers to the following:

(*) warranty exclusions: mechanical damage(s), die discoloration.

Just seems like that's a crap way of doing business after Swiftechs\Gabe claims last year.

Really pisses me off after all the folks here at XS who chose to use the GTX, trusted Swiftech\Gabe and their assurances about the AL top not being an issue.

I mean, what a RIP:down:

andyc

AndyC,

I would support your assertions 100%. Ethylene glycol is ethylene glycol. Gave says that Hydrx is used in the boating industry. OK. Pentosin is used in German cars. Zerex is used in NASCAR. So what?

You know me as a Swiftech supporter. I myself.. my GTX and Stealths are history. First, there is the issue of performance, and the D-Tek nozzles laid the issue to rest, finally. Second, its the bother. Why even bother with the hassle of the dye etc etc and the risk etc etc?

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