Can you say noob?
Ribbing aside, ES = Experimental Sample prior to retail release not to be sold to the general public.:cool:
In this forum it sometimes means "Extra Special" cherry picked processor too...
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Erm... who is the noob? It's "Engineering Sample"
one of the retailers here in nz have gotten there E8200 4Ghz
- Got an E8200 running on an IP35 Pro @ 500x8 (1.3275v) :D [stock QX9650 hsf]
http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?i...glecardbg6.jpg
nzbleach here on xs got one of them, hes testing it now and i think he did get it orthos stable, but he still ran 06 with only 1.33v so if its not stable yet, it should be stable with more.
retail E8200 prime stable for 30 mins on blend. Havent primed any longer.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...0mod/4GJPG.jpg
well not everything need the be "super stable delux orthos mega" hehe :)
sure its a great point where u can see what the cpu are stable as, but if you can loop 3dmark several times, play game like COD4, crysis , use your computer all day long without crash, then it seems stable to me :) orthos and prime are strange sometimes, and BSOD shortly even though you have done all above..
HEY OBR,
I got a mediocre e8400 like you - can't do 4ghz orthos stable.
However, can do 3.8-3.9ghz orthos stable.
3.6ghz on stock volts.
Gets quite hot even at 1.45v during testing...
Need to get an aussie chip...=(
Who cares about Orthos stable really? It's not like you get this CPU's to "play" Orthos or think about "hmm... i'm bored... let's start up some Orthos" anyway. Your CPU will never get stressed in real life like it does with Orthos so no point in going for lower clocks just to get it "orthos stable".
Well this is starting to suck... few months ago, psyched to get a penryn quad, but with 8 or 8.5 multi's and limited FSB, thats a total waste unless I want to take up the sport of video encoding.
Then maybe the E8500 and get 4.2+... and now thats iffy. I might still gamble $300 on E8500, though would just be for fun, performance wise I am likely to end up with zilch.
I wonder if amd was competitive if we would have 9 multis on some of the cheaper (penryn) quads like the (9x on the) q6600.
Ouch, feel sorry for some of you guys getting bad retail E8400's, 4ghz stable is nothing for mine, needs 1.35V, and that seems higher than most other people with retail E8400's that I have seen..
I like seeing orthos stable because it is the only way to objectively prove to others it is a usable overclock.
I can throw up a superpi run at 4.3+ and claim I am gaming for hours without crashes with it. And maybe I am and maybe I am not, who knows.
Thats not to say I dont like seeing max fsb and max OC, that is interesting to see and test as well. But I also like to see max possible 24/7 settings, and that is best objectively shown to others by orthos, prime stable.
I think the biggest problem with penryn is that people are expecting it to do well now. Not in a year when things mature a bit. By then, no one will really care that much about one that'll do 4.5ghz with 1.36v anymore. That is, is nehalem is a success.