X4 PHENOM taken to 3GHz

For the last time its been posted here already 100 times,
The x87 math part of Phenom is exactly the same as K8, that part of the processor was not changed, only the SSE has been changed, Super PI doesnt use SSE, Real world apps like the tinker core from Folding @ Home use this part of the processor(X87), and K8, Beat C2D , And K10 does 2. Why would AMD change a part of the processor that they already Murder Intel @, Im pretty sure Daily Tech put up numbers backing this up.Its simple, Super PI is a quick hitter, C2D fills its pipe alot faster than AMD, but its a much smaller pipe, AMD has a fat pipe it takes a lil longer to fill, Super PI likes the smaller pipe better, Phenom will kill Intel at Memory Intensive stuff, If the data set doesnt fit in Intels cache, AMD wins! If it does fit in the cache Intel wins, Ive seen this posted on many Super Computer forums, where people are doing real work on clusters, not Running bench marks.

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Originally Posted by Viper666

For the last time its been posted here already 100 times,
The x87 math part of Phenom is exactly the same as K8, that part of the processor was not changed, only the SSE has been changed, Super PI doesnt use SSE, Real world apps like the tinker core from Folding @ Home use this part of the processor(X87), and K8, Beat C2D , And K10 does 2. Why would AMD change a part of the processor that they already Murder Intel @, Im pretty sure Daily Tech put up numbers backing this up.Its simple, Super PI is a quick hitter, C2D fills its pipe alot faster than AMD, but its a much smaller pipe, AMD has a fat pipe it takes a lil longer to fill, Super PI likes the smaller pipe better, Phenom will kill Intel at Memory Intensive stuff, If the data set doesnt fit in Intels cache, AMD wins! If it does fit in the cache Intel wins, Ive seen this posted on many Super Computer forums, where people are doing real work on clusters, not Running bench marks.

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My thoughts exactly. SuperPi should be burried deep under ground , or re-write a new one from ground up that fully supports the new multi-cpu's. Heck , even P4 still gets better numbers in superpi then K8. But what about 99.9% of all other applications. All those who think superPI is the chit then you're the weak link. Goodbye.

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Originally Posted by Vapor

...user banned. I don't want to hear about it...the user has broken so many rules repeatedly it's not even funny.

Someone else hit 3GHz....please

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Like this :D
by nguoisaigon
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...phenom/263.jpg

thats 2 so far! anyone else?

The Phenom x4 is a great cpu but at the same time its too bad they are having problems at higher freq. but there is something special about a native quad core. It really is.

The super pi time ain't so super. I could get lower time with my E2160...

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Originally Posted by Nazu

The super pi time ain't so super. I could get lower time with my E2160...

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Quit b*tching about PI :p:
Eikös jätetä jo Piit rauhaan ja keskitytään myöskin tähän phenomiin ;)

AMD never got so pwned before. 3ghz Phenom against 6ghz Yorkie :(

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Originally Posted by BeardyMan

Like this :D
by nguoisaigon
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...phenom/263.jpg

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hmm i was expecting a lot better.. but this ain't all bad

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Originally Posted by donitsi

Quit b*tching about PI :p:
Eikös jätetä jo Piit rauhaan ja keskitytään myöskin tähän phenomiin ;)

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I could keep b*itching about the overall performance of Phenom but I'm not gonna do that as other people do it already.

Awesome! 3ghz on phase is groundbreaking! :rolleyes:

Well I guess in terms of Phenom you could consider this quite the accomplishment. Like having a Special Olympics athlete compete in the regular Olympics and winning gold.

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Originally Posted by Yukon Trooper

Awesome! 3ghz on phase is groundbreaking! :rolleyes:

Well I guess in terms of Phenom you could consider this quite the accomplishment. Like having a Special Olympics athlete compete in the regular Olympics and winning gold.

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More like a wheelchair olympic athlete :cool:
sry, couldn't resist.

Anyone know if AMD 690G will support Phenom?

BEardyman, do you know what board they were using? (nguoisaigon)

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Originally Posted by mAJORD

BEardyman, do you know what board they were using? (nguoisaigon)

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Our Gigabyte....

Ownage needs to kiss me in a place, unmentioned.

Toilet paper not included.

Wow, a very unstable 3GHz. I sure hope B3 chips will alleviate this clock speed scaling problem; K8 scales like a monster compared to K10, and that's sad since the Phenoms out now are retail products, not ES.

It's probably the platform. Whataya gonna do?

Hang in there.

I can't wait till it all lines up and the pissant intel sucka's suck some stuff to choke on.

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Originally Posted by akaBruno

I can't wait till it all lines up and the pissant intel sucka's suck some stuff to choke on.

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At the rate AMD is going, that is never going to happen. They just can't seem to get anything together.

Here is one more with aircooling

round numbers - 3G / 2.5G / 2.5G / 500 / CL444-12

http://img.techpowerup.org/071202/3GSPI.png

its ES so its Unlocked so its easier =)

Ive been a reader for a long time and overclocking since the days of 300A and never felt an urge to post, but its been a while coming for Phenom, and regardless of stuation as it stands i look forward to getting round to one.

Hell i just got rid of my Opteron 170 in the process of getting rid of my 165 also, I was lucky enough to win a competion at [H] and i got 2 x Corsair XMS3200Pro XL (522), they have been my rock for my systems over years. I finally made the step to AM2(+)

For me its quite remarkable to see that AMD have all 3 parts on the market. People just got to understand that progress isnt going to end, and that the media like to write ....
Anyhow, macci may i ask what voltages are required for phenom OC ?
Is memspeed head room affected with Max OC ?

Paitently awaiting for chipsets to appear at moment, i have just got myself Asrock NF6G to tide me over (using 2.10 bios) Which appears to be phenom compatible for a price of £31 :) not expecting miracles but it will be interesting to see how it performs on a very low budget board with budget ram.

Also could someone confirm if there AMD have a unlocked-multi Phenom CPU for retail. if this was possibly an option for all Phenom CPU this would be a very persuasive option for the enthusiast. For those wishing to have an AMD system.

Regards
AL

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Originally Posted by Gener_AL (UK)

Also could someone confirm if there AMD have a unlocked-multi Phenom CPU for retail. if this was possibly an option for all Phenom CPU this would be a very persuasive option for the enthusiast. For those wishing to have an AMD system.

Regards
AL

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not currently, but a "Black Edition" Phenom is on the way,
I believe in early 2008.


EBL

I also used aircooling, a Zalman 9700

Its only because of the L3 bug.

Here is a bit better benchmark (ran under Vista32bit without tweaking) -- single card 3DMark05! :D

http://img.techpowerup.org/071203/3d...singlecard.png

I have a reference score with 3GHz Yorkfield using the same GFX clocks and its 300 points less (ran under WinXP32bit though)...

nice work! the cooling system is crazy.


he'll be back lol