Water cooling the Asus Maximus SE X38

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Originally Posted by Wiggy McShades

well the mcw30 is just a flat piece of copper and it seems like the fusion is a flat piece of copper also so basically in the end if the fusion is all copper or at least not aluminum then it'll be perfectly fine IMHO

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I guess you have a point there ..... :)

I am starting to feel like ripping my Maximus apart right now, may not be the best move for me?

If I did go the other way, I would like Eddie and the EK boys to offer an X38 kit that contained NB, SB, PWM's, all with back plates as a 1 button click. Mabey a small % off for buying bulk. ;)

Mabey 1 big backplate to cover all 4 blocks, and to keep our mobo from bending? (Might save on production cost)

I think I am seeking some extra incentive to jump in that big....

I think most of us already baught our CPU block when we ordered our mobo, so I would not recommend including it in the X38 kit.

By the way, sweet mod ~AOE~ on the SB. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Talonman

Mabey 1 big backplate to cover all 4 blocks, and to keep our mobo from bending?

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My thoughts exactly. I'll just end up waiting for my motherboard to arrive and then get exact measurements. My brother works in a fairly large machine shop ( good to know the boss eh ? ) And he's already told me all I need to do is get him a design / measurements and he can have it laser cut.

From the look of it, I'd say the Fusion is aluminum. Another give away would be how heavy it is. If it's realitively light, it's aluminum, if it's realitively heavy, it's copper.

waterlogged, I would agree that its highly unlikely that the whole fusion system is copper, but it doesn't have to be. I am pretty sure that water only goes through a small part, and heatpipes connect to the rest so as long as the part that touches water is copper it doesn't matter if the heat pipe connected parts are aluminum.

If there are a few people willing and ready to have any custom laser cut parts it costs about the same to have 5 done as it does for 1, because the machine is already set up.

so if 4-5 people want some backplates then pm me with the one design and it'll be done asap at a decent price ;)

the mosfet backplates I sell have been flying out the doors....just need to make different variants for the other motherboards now - just dont have the time :(

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Originally Posted by jkresh

waterlogged, I would agree that its highly unlikely that the whole fusion system is copper, but it doesn't have to be. I am pretty sure that water only goes through a small part, and heatpipes connect to the rest so as long as the part that touches water is copper it doesn't matter if the heat pipe connected parts are aluminum.

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Very true...but having been a machinist for 12 years, and knowing how both copper and aluminum look when belt sanded, I'll say that the entire thing is aluminum.

i should be getting mine today, but from the looks of the pictures and what i've read, i agree waterlogged. it looks like alum.

Would this fits? This is 16mm width vs EK 17mm width, correct?

http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...roducts_id=433

http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...vr-as40_p0.jpg

http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...vr-as40_p1.jpg

http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...s40-v10_d0.gif

I realise this is an Asus Maximus SE X38 thread, but for info, the clearance on the GA-X38-DQ6 is only 13mm :eek:

it seems like the fusion nb block is all non aluminum. the fins around it are aluminum but the block itself never touches aluminum so its safe to use. currently im using it right now getting 32 idle no idea of laod just yet this is with 1.35v on the nb.

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Originally Posted by Wiggy McShades

it seems like the fusion nb block is all non aluminum. the fins around it are aluminum but the block itself never touches aluminum so its safe to use. currently im using it right now getting 32 idle no idea of laod just yet this is with 1.35v on the nb.

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Nice!
Got any idea what the Fusion is doing to the flow rate or is it on it's own loop?

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Originally Posted by Wiggy McShades

it seems like the fusion nb block is all non aluminum. the fins around it are aluminum but the block itself never touches aluminum so its safe to use. currently im using it right now getting 32 idle no idea of laod just yet this is with 1.35v on the nb.

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So the stock ASUS block is acually good?

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Originally Posted by Nate P.

So the stock ASUS block is acually good?

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Well... kind of loaded question... it seems the Fusion may be confirmed to be copper instead of aluminum so thats a plus. The Fusion block tube's are 3/8" so depending on the size and how many blocks your using in the same loop it could be quite restrictive. Guess it depends on how your going to configure your system.

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Originally Posted by Nick L

Well... kind of loaded question... it seems the Fusion may be confirmed to be copper instead of aluminum so thats a plus. The Fusion block tube's are 3/8" so depending on the size and how many blocks your using in the same loop it could be quite restrictive. Guess it depends on how your going to configure your system.

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Well, I have my w/c system on 3/in. tubing , so that's a good thing. If I had the the stock ASUS block and the Swiftech Apogee GT in the same loop with a Swiftehc MCP-355, would I still get good flow ya think?

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Originally Posted by Nate P.

Well, I have my w/c system on 3/in. tubing , so that's a good thing. If I had the the stock ASUS block and the Swiftech Apogee GT in the same loop with a Swiftehc MCP-355, would I still get good flow ya think?

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I have no idea if it will work for you :shrug: as I haven't used mine. I did not like the 1/4" maybe less, inlet/outlet dia. under the 3/8" tubes on the Fusion. I will be running a 7/16" hose on a single loop with CF and I it would be to restrictive for my needs.

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Originally Posted by mildseven7

Would this fits? This is 16mm width vs EK 17mm width, correct?

http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...roducts_id=433

http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...vr-as40_p0.jpg

http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...vr-as40_p1.jpg

http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...s40-v10_d0.gif

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Hi!

That is good info.
I have to tell you we will make a revision of Mosfet 3 block so it will fit on that mobo also. So no worryes you will have to buy coolence stuff ;)

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Originally Posted by Nate P.

So the stock ASUS block is actually good?

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from what im doing so far it is actually decent. i've heard the change from 1/2 to 3/8 tubing has a very low effect on performance, but that is the only downside so far. im doing the fusion block and an apogee gtx on a pa120.3 powered by a ddc2 with an alpha cool modded top so im not too worried about restriction. from what i can tell the block is safe to use and it is decent performance wise if you don't want to risk ruining your board because it is VERY firmly attached. i suggest anyone removing it to be EXTREMELY careful i originally planned to use an mcw30 but i gave up after 20 minutes of trying to remove it safely. i saw one person tear the whole chip set off removing it and then just gave up.



*disclaimer* i can not yet PROVE the fusion block is not aluminum. what i can prove is the fins surrounding it are aluminum which is expected but the block itself never allows the water to touch that part of the cooling system. i took a good hour when i received the board looking at this very carefully trying to figure what it is made out of and weather it comes in contact with aluminum. i started scraping at the fusion block and got a small piece off and there was no aluminum under it. the fins on the other hand to the left of the block are painted aluminum anything slightly sharp will scrape the paint off.

anyone using a Swiftech GT and if so post a pic

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Originally Posted by Clunk

http://www.clunk.org.uk/images/maxim...d/IMG_1085.jpg

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can you confirm that the hr-09 fits without any mods on this board? wonder why one of them is tilted and not installed on this pic (sorry but I don't trust TR compatibility page for that kind of info)

thanks for the pics btw :)

I have made a command decision...

I am running the stock ROG Fusion cooler, until I decide I need more. ;)

UPDATE: Totally switched my position on this, and went with aftermarket products...

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Originally Posted by Talonman

I have made a command decision...

I am running the stock ROG Fusion cooler, until I decide I need more. ;)

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its gotten me 425 fsb on a quad with 4 sticks of ram and not seeing above 44 load

what were you running for a multiplier wiggy? i've gotten up to 3.7 occt 1hr stable (412x9 and testing 425x9) (. i don't remember for sure. 4x1gb lanfest at 4-4-4-12.

Sorry for late answer.
The NB is very special here so we'll make a new top for NB block. The SB block will be NB/SB3 as mentioned in earlyer thread.
Any direct questions, please use PM or direct e-mail info(at)ekwaterblocks.com because I cannot read all threads in real time.
Any kind of suggestions are welcome.

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Originally Posted by TheSamurai

what were you running for a multiplier wiggy? i've gotten up to 3.7 occt 1hr stable (412x9 and testing 425x9) (. i don't remember for sure. 4x1gb lanfest at 4-4-4-12.

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9 multi

does it pass prime? i'm having issues with my 3.825 (425x9) what do your settings look like? i'm wondering if it's my ram.